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post #91 of 10003 Old 03-10-2009, 04:09 PM
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I then shifted to a Sammie pn50a650 series but after some more research was convinced that Panny builds a much more solid set and that Sammies will never be able to attain the color accuracy and black levels of pannies (true?).

Samsung plasmas generally have much more accurate color than Panasonic plasmas, although the THX-certified Panasonic models narrow the gap quite a bit.
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Is there typically any reason to wait to buy a plasma until after they've ironed out any issues? i.e. Am I part of the "test" group by buying early?

I've been researching for the longest time and was settled first on a an 800U but am now having a tough time locating one from a respectable seller. I also heard the 850Us were subpar to the 800Us (true?).

I then shifted to a Sammie pn50a650 series but after some more research was convinced that Panny builds a much more solid set and that Sammies will never be able to attain the color accuracy and black levels of pannies (true?).

Having waited now until to 2009s are out, I am ready to buy the 46" G10. But what I am hearing now is that the pic is not as good as the 800U. Isn't it possible that calibration on the G10 will make it as good, if not better, than the 800U?

The 6 and 8 series Samsungs this year might have black levels very close to the NeoPDPs. They're claiming 50% reduction in minimum luminance.
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Not sure why it matters to you, since you have proclaimed multiple times that LCD > Plasma, and that your Kuro is terrible, plasma is terrible, etc etc etc. Why bother?


Probably so he can come on plasma threads and tell newbies that he got rid of the best plasmas and his LCD is better...it's great...it's a world beater. One thing is certain, he just can't stay away from the plasma threads...like a moth to the flame. I feel sorry for the poor merchant that thought he had a sale and gets the set back from him.
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I'm totaly curious about Samsungs new 09 Plasmas...they'll still probably have the edge in color like last time, and improved blacks but who knows how good they'll be. Not to mention arent they also sporting the 1080 lines of motion resolution? when all said and done, if Samsung can match Pannys Blacks and give out superior color like last time, then i'd probably go with the Samsung....yet the only downside is that the they arent available in any size below 50" last year their blacks didn't match up to pannys and people complained about IR, yet everybody praised the Color.
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The 6 and 8 series Samsungs this year might have black levels very close to the NeoPDPs. They're claiming 50% reduction in minimum luminance.

Ahem!!!

There are Samsung threads available for Samsung Plasma discussions.
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Ahem!!!

There are Samsung threads available for Samsung Plasma discussions.

Amen brother, although a lot of them are focused on repair issues with their "wammy-Sammys".
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Mine should be here any where from a week to a month.. my vendor is pretty flaky. I hope the VGA port is worth it as I'm very interested in hooking my computer to it. I've been told you can just use a DVI to HDMI converter but I don't see how you'd get audio that way. If the VGA connection is crappy then at least we have the option of viewing movies off of an SD card, which is another advantage the G has over the S.

You can use one of the Component audio inputs with the the HDMI input if you use a DVI to HDMI cable, do that, it will be a cleaner signal than VGA, and with at least last years models you could not do 1080p over VGA.

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Professional review and calibration to come Wednesday. Shootoff with the New Samsung UN55B7100 also.

Man I really want this tv lol
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My first post, been reading for the past few months about the new G10s. Can anyone say what the sound quality is like on the G10s now that they have them home?

Thanks to all for the discussions...
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I have a rather unique situation in my setup where a portion of the lower bezel is obscured, so the remote signals can't reach it. My current panny (42px60U) has the IR receiver on the bottom right corner of the TV (bottom left side as you face it), so this currently isn't a problem for me. If I remember correctly, the 85u had it in the same corner but the 80u had it towards the middle of the lower bezel. Does anyone know where the IR receiver is on the new G series plasmas?
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My first post, been reading for the past few months about the new G10s. Can anyone say what the sound quality is like on the G10s now that they have them home?

Thanks to all for the discussions...

I don't think anyone has them "home". Maybe some of the retailers are getting them in now, but you can only pre-order them right now.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, there will be a review on this TV tomorrow.
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I don't think anyone has them "home". Maybe some of the retailers are getting them in now, but you can only pre-order them right now.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, there will be a review on this TV tomorrow.

You could order these from BB last Sunday. She confirmed they were in the distribution warehouse on the east coast. We ordered one and were told we could pick it up tomorrow.

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I have a rather unique situation in my setup where a portion of the lower bezel is obscured, so the remote signals can't reach it. My current panny (42px60U) has the IR receiver on the bottom right corner of the TV (bottom left side as you face it), so this currently isn't a problem for me. If I remember correctly, the 85u had it in the same corner but the 80u had it towards the middle of the lower bezel. Does anyone know where the IR receiver is on the new G series plasmas?

The X series I saw at BB had its IR receiver near the middle of the lower bezel. The G series has the same bezel so it should be in the middle also. That's a disappointment to me because it rules out putting a powered audio sound bar there because the IR eye will be blocked.
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Agreeing with Heebdawg here, I'd really like to see the G10 up against the 800u, but more importantly, the S1. I don't intend to buy based on camcorder capability, and the main functions seem the same. I would be in the market for a 54 inch model. Chris, could we get a shot of the G10 from the side? Isn't it thinner than the 800u? I hate to ask for more - you are totally rocking with this shootout work.
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Cleveland Plasma, has the flicker issue been resolved for 24p playback?
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...could we get a shot of the G10 from the side? Isn't it thinner than the 800u? I hate to ask for more - you are totally rocking with this shootout work.

G10 has the same thickness as 800/850 models. About 3.8"-4.1"
According to HDGuru V1 would be 2'' thin.

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G10 has the same thickness as 800/850 models. About 3.8"-4.1"
According to HDGuru V1 would be 2'' thin.

G15 and V1 are 2" thick. Z1 is 1".
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Do the new FullHD models (S1, G10 and upwards) have fans for cooling?

I heard the X1 (720p model) hasn't any.
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By the way if anyone would like to take a look at the manual, it is here.

I was under the impression the G10 could NOT do 24p without 3:2 pull down?

According to the manual it has the same menu options and specs listed for 24p as the 850u.

Page 60 in the G10 manual
Page 57 in the 850 manual (http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPER...TH46PZ850U.PDF)

1,125 (1,080) /24p 26.97 23.98 *
1,125 (1,080) /24p 27.00 24.00 *

Also says in both manuals: 48Hz: Achieves more cinematic playback by reproducing the movie contents at twice the speed of 24
frames per second. (60Hz/48Hz)

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Looks like Panasonic has two Neo PDP panels one is their famous 1/3" thin panel supposedly used in Z1, V1, G15 and the second one with just the regular thickness for all the other 1080P models. They talk about two Neo PDP panels in their press releases.

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Looks like Panasonic has two Neo PDP panels one is their famous 1/3" thin panel supposedly used in Z1, V1, G15 and the second one with just the regular thickness for all the other 1080P models. They talk about two Neo PDP panels in their press releases.

What's the advantage of the 1/3" panel, other than just being thin? Is it a better panel in any way? PQ? Longevity?
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I would really like to know if the European G10 has THX mode?

I'm torn between a 58" PZ800 and a 50" G10. Any advice?
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Anybody know what time Chris is planning on updating us about the calibrated G10??? I need pics!!!
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Do you find that the THX mode is brighter on the new G10 than on the Z800 series?

No takers...?

I saw the posted pictures but the problem is pictures are never an accurate metric for comparison. I was wondering if someone with BOTH of these TVs could tell me if there is a visible difference.

Thanks
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No takers...?

I saw the posted pictures but the problem is pictures are never an accurate metric for comparison. I was wondering if someone with BOTH of these TVs could tell me if there is a visible difference.

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I would really like to know if the European G10 has THX mode?

I'm torn between a 58" PZ800 and a 50" G10. Any advice?

The G10 European model does not have THX mode.

THX mode is on de V10 and up, in european models.
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Anybody know what time Chris is planning on updating us about the calibrated G10??? I need pics!!!

At 5 PM the Chad will be here.
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At 5 PM the Chad will be here.

Thank you very much.

When you make the photo review, I would like that you say what TV is better: G10 vs 7100

Thanks
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Chris, could you please also measure a power consumption of the TV before and after the calibration? According to Panasonic's specs G10 uses only about 10% less power than 800/850. Thanks!

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