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I'm sure I'm the only dumb one who would do this, or the only guy who doesn't read closely - but I thought I would pass it along and explicitly state this for anyone else using the break via SD card.

Please be aware the Picture / SD slide show settings are separate from the tuner settings. I set my picture up per the D-Nice recommendations while OTA HD was on in the background, slapped in my SD card, switched to the slide show, set the slide duration, and was off and running. After about 83 hours I gave my set a break, turning it off this morning. I started up again tonight and after about an hour I pressed menu to check to make sure my settings were correct. They were not.

I think the only difference was the contrast. Someone may have mentioned that 100% was to speed up the process. Anyone have any idea if i will just need slightly longer than the 120 hour time to get close to the recommendations or if I totally blew it??

I did this but only for about 9 hours thx to your post. Only difference i saw was it was on standard vs vivd. I think the other settings might be global?
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so any setting for the S1 model yet? thx

I too am looking for settings for the s1 model +1
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I too am looking for settings for the s1 model +1

They will be posted on page one when they are available.
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I did this but only for about 9 hours thx to your post.

I was hoping I would help someone. I think you are correct. moving to vivid pretty much set the other stuff.

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How do I check the amount of hours my TCP42S1 has been running for?
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How do I check the amount of hours my TCP42S1 has been running for?

This thread should help:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=407154
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^^^

Except use the Info button instead of the Recall button.

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^^^

Except use the Info button instead of the Recall button.

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They've updated that page to show use of the info button...so it's right for your model...just do as it says.
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Thanks, Ohioste. I missed that update.

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Will it make that big of a difference if I stop breaking in after 100 hours instead of 120?
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Will it make that big of a difference if I stop breaking in after 100 hours instead of 120?

Yes.

You'll start enjoying your TV twenty hours sooner

Seriously, the amount and/or procedure for break-in varies to suit the level of worry of the individual. 100 hours is plenty for a lot of people, while some like to stretch it out to 200 or more.

If i'm not mistaken, the 120 hour figure came from D-Nice and was only intended to be used if you planned on going into the Service Menu and adjusting the offsets to match his posted offsets. If you're not going to change the SM values, then the 120 hour figure doesn't really matter. You could always do more break-in when you're not watching TV too.

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Buzz check! Who's sets buzz and how loud, at what distance can you hear it and at what volume.

I have very good hearing and can hear my tv buzz when there are light flashes on the screen or just certain colors displayed in certain amounts on the screen (mostly white) at about 8 feet with the volume at 10
and 15 if i want to hear it (well i NEVER want to hear it but sometimes it happens) The buzzing is kind of annoying in the early morning/late at night when I am listening at low volumes and my apartment is dead silent.

Do I have ANOTHER defective set? Because this one buzzes the exact same as the 42PZ85u (that had 5 dead pixels) that it replaced, or are my ears just to sensitive, (or does bad power actually exist)?

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suprememilo,

Buzzing at that level of volume setting and from that viewing distance is not normal.

What sources are you using? Have you used more than one? Have you checked or replaced audio cables?

Give us something to work with.

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I don't believe your set is functioning properly. I can barely hear my fan at 0 volume, 8 feet away, with a pure white screen set on vivid. If the volume is on at all, the fan is a non-issue.

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Buzz check! Who's sets buzz and how loud, at what distance can you hear it and at what volume.

I have very good hearing and can hear my tv buzz when there are light flashes on the screen or just certain colors displayed in certain amounts on the screen (mostly white) at about 8 feet with the volume at 10
and 15 if i want to hear it (well i NEVER want to hear it but sometimes it happens) The buzzing is kind of annoying in the early morning/late at night when I am listening at low volumes and my apartment is dead silent.

Do I have ANOTHER defective set? Because this one buzzes the exact same as the 42PZ85u (that had 5 dead pixels) that it replaced, or are my ears just to sensitive, (or does bad power actually exist)?

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It happens when I use Cable directly to the TV, Cable Box via component, PC via HDMI, and when I display images off an SD card.

It is not a fan problem, (although one of my fans is a bit noisier than it should be ), also its not from the speakers.

It buzzes the worst when the image switches between bring colors, it I have the sound off (say I was watching a game and doing work) then the buzzing is very annoying. Say I'm playing a slide show I could tell you when it changes pictures with my eyes closed. Happens on all video settings, and I have never touched anything in the service menu (waiting for offsets before I even go in there).


The only reason I think it might not be the TV is that my last Panasonic had these same characteristics, is there anything I should try changing before I call Panasonic again?

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It happens when I use Cable directly to the TV, Cable Box via component, PC via HDMI, and when I display images off an SD card.

It is not a fan problem, (although one of my fans is a bit noisier than it should be ), also its not from the speakers.

It buzzes the worst when the image switches between bring colors, it I have the sound off (say I was watching a game and doing work) then the buzzing is very annoying. Say I'm playing a slide show I could tell you when it changes pictures with my eyes closed. Happens on all video settings, and I have never touched anything in the service menu (waiting for offsets before I even go in there).


The only reason I think it might not be the TV is that my last Panasonic had these same characteristics, is there anything I should try changing before I call Panasonic again?

my girlfriends 42" Samsung Tantus plasma from 2002 is like this too lol. Best of luck getting it resolved. That would be annoying.
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Hi guys. I have a 46G10 and have been running the thumbdrive slides at the break in settings. I have about 48 hours on the break in. I noticed that the white slides now look like they are a bit pink. Has anyone else noticed such results, cause its making me freak out!
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Hi guys. I have a 46G10 and have been running the thumbdrive slides at the break in settings. I have about 48 hours on the break in. I noticed that the white slides now look like they are a bit pink. Has anyone else noticed such results, cause its making me freak out!

The panel's characteristics change during the beginning of it's life so it's probably not a problem, and you should be able to adjust it out when you reset all your picture adjustments after your break-in period.

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Thanks a lot Randy. The reason I asked is because the red slides appear after the white and I am wondering if red is aging quicker than the rest of the colors... that would leave a pink tint right? That is my big fear...

Also, should I leave color management ON. I did not see it listed in Dnice's break in settings so I did not change it. I also have the color temp to Cool2 because my set does not just have "cool" as a setting. Could that be causing issues?
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Buzz check! Who's sets buzz and how loud, at what distance can you hear it and at what volume.

I have very good hearing and can hear my tv buzz when there are light flashes on the screen or just certain colors displayed in certain amounts on the screen (mostly white) at about 8 feet with the volume at 10
and 15 if i want to hear it (well i NEVER want to hear it but sometimes it happens) The buzzing is kind of annoying in the early morning/late at night when I am listening at low volumes and my apartment is dead silent.

Do I have ANOTHER defective set? Because this one buzzes the exact same as the 42PZ85u (that had 5 dead pixels) that it replaced, or are my ears just to sensitive, (or does bad power actually exist)?

You didn't mention which model you have, but my first 42S1 (build date 2/2009) exhibited these exact same symptoms. I exchanged it for a new set (build date 3/2009) and the new one is much quieter. It still buzzes a bit, but I can only hear it with the volume very low or muted at 6-7 feet. The fact that I seem to be rather sensitive to electronic buzzing noises and the set is in a rather live room with hardwood floors probably doesn't help. I've concluded that what I'm hearing is the "normal" plasma buzz, but if anyone has a completely silent set I'd like to hear about it.

One final note, I'm experiencing much less eye fatigue viewing the new TV in low light with the same settings as the old one. Perhaps my first set had a defective power supply and it was overdriving the panel.
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I have had no "buzzing" problems with my p60u, my px75u, my px80u, and my two new X1 TVs. So, I guess that I have had a number of "completely silent" sets.

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You didn't mention which model you have, but my first 42S1 (build date 2/2009) exhibited these exact same symptoms. I exchanged it for a new set (build date 3/2009) and the new one is much quieter. It still buzzes a bit, but I can only hear it with the volume very low or muted at 6-7 feet. The fact that I seem to be rather sensitive to electronic buzzing noises and the set is in a rather live room with hardwood floors probably doesn't help. I've concluded that what I'm hearing is the "normal" plasma buzz, but if anyone has a completely silent set I'd like to hear about it.

One final note, I'm experiencing much less eye fatigue viewing the new TV in low light with the same settings as the old one. Perhaps my first set had a defective power supply and it was overdriving the panel.

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I have had no "buzzing" problems with my p60u, my px75u, my px80u, and my two new X1 TVs. So, I guess that I have had a number of "completely silent" sets.

Larry

Thanks Larry. This is my first plasma, so I'm just trying to figure if any level of buzzing is acceptable. According to the owner's manual, a buzzing sound is not a sign of faulty operation or malfunction. It's hard to judge based on the various posts about buzzing since everyone's perception can be quite different.
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Hi Everyone,

Are there any problomatic G10 Tv's with specific serial numbers. I am finding standard to dark same with THX while if I add more contrast the red's seem to be taking over.

Thanks Terry
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Hi Everyone,

Are there any problomatic G10 Tv's with specific serial numbers. I am finding standard to dark same with THX while if I add more contrast the red's seem to be taking over.

Thanks Terry

no way should standard be too dark,I can get mine eye searing bright by maxing out the contrast and brightness
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no way should standard be too dark,I can get mine eye searing bright by maxing out the contrast and brightness

No joke. The default setting is dull, but turning up the contrast to about 60 in standard is more than enough for dark room conditions.

As for THX, I wholeheartedly agree that it's ridiculously dark at maximum contrast. Please feel free to let THX and Panasonic know how you feel about this.
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LarryInRI- say you play the break-in slides can you hear them changing with the volume off at say 5 feet?

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I know this question was directed at Larry, but I couldn't resist. I was just studying on my laptop while the break-in pictures were running in the background on my 50G10 and my laptop buzzing/fan completely dwarfed that of the panny which i was about 5 feet away from. I turned off my laptop just to be sure and the Panny was nice and quiet. No, buzzing, although occasionally I can hear a fan at 0 volume when the pure white is displayed. FYI, my laptop is a Dell D830.

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LarryInRI- say you play the break-in slides can you hear them changing with the volume off at say 5 feet?

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Thanks smsnsimba and everyone else, looks like I will probably be giving Pany another call after finals

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no buzzing or dead pixels on my G10.......its in my bedroom so I know I would definitely hear it
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