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post #1501 of 1513 Old 04-26-2015, 04:05 PM
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The Pseudo HDR Standard Mode Settings

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are the HDMI and Component Standard Mode Settings with color tone set to Cool and color space set to Native, using 10% Windows:

Standard HDMI

8000K Color Temperature

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size 16:9 or screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 82
brightness 47
sharpness 4
color 51
tint 49/51
Gamma +1
native color space
offsets Red 5 Green 23 Blue 38
Gain Red 33 Green 18 Blue 12
Edge Enhancement Off, others off.


Standard Component
8000K Color Temperature

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size 16:9 or screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 85
brightness 47
sharpness 4
color 51
tint 49/51
Gamma 0
native color space
offsets Red 20 Green 30 Blue 34
Gain Red 26 Green 12 Blue 6
Edge Enhancement Off, others off.

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OTA - The Antenna is the Answer to Quality

Greetings Colleagues,

It has been awhile since my last posting. I have been busy with trying to learn one of Leo Kottke's acoustic guitar songs, which is a difficult task.

Usually, during this time of year, I post updated calibration settings for our HD television. However, quite by accident, I discovered something else that some of you may already know. My house is located in a valley where ota (over the air) reception is poor and I was advised that my reception could improve if I wrapped foil around my indoor HD antenna. I wrapped the foil around the rabbit ears and to my surprise the picture quality greatly improved.

I am not here to recommend the use of foil on your HD antenna, if you have one. I am here to say that if you have a quality HD antenna, which I may not have, you will probably see a better quality picture with OTA signals via antenna than those signals supplied by cable and satellite providers. My research indicates that OTA gives a better picture quality than Cable and Satellite providers because these providers "compress" the picture signal(s) to fit more HD channels into cable or satellite tv services. This "compression" impacts picture quality. OTA, via antenna, does not compress the HD signal and you should end up with a much better HD picture.

Now I have to find a better HD antenna.

Seasons greetings and have a happy new year!

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Hi Vincentfan, there is an excellent forum on AVS on HDTV Reception OTA, and will likely include OTA users in your area. The forum also includes designs of excellent homebrew antennas which can be built using elements of solid copper wire out of a yard or two of Loomex house wiring stapled to a 2x4. And yes, you can use a tinfoil reflector (if it is spaced properly away from your antenna and you are doing this indoors) behind the antenna which reflects signals from the tv station back to your antenna for a second boost in strength.

You may also find cheap (as under $20) amplifiers at electronics surplus or liquidation stores to amplify the signal from your antenna.

I have used a combination of OTA for local, as well as over the web sources such as KODI which you can google to find for your tv or streaming box since I cut the cable and landline 4 years ago.
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The 2016 Tweaked Settings

Greetings colleagues,

Herein are the tweaked settings for hdmi and component inputs. Previous settings adjusted to improve rgb and gamma levels.


“The Component Settings”

Component 1 Input
Recommended for OTA and Cable Box viewing

Standard Component
8000K Color Temperature

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 86
brightness 47
sharpness 4
color 51
tint 49/51
Gamma 0
native color space
offsets Red 25 Green 30 Blue 37
Gain Red 27 Green 17 Blue 12
Edge Enhancement off, others off.


Movie Component
D65

Movie mode
color tone WARM1
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 84
brightness 53
sharpness 5
color 51
tint 48/52
Gamma -1
native color space
offsets Red 28 Green 27 Blue 11
Gain Red 47 Green 43 Blue 19
Edge Enhancement off, others off.




“The HDMI Settings”
HDMI 1 Input
Recommended for Blu Ray viewing.

Standard HDMI
8000K Color Temperature

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 84
brightness 47
sharpness 5
color 50
tint 49/51
Gamma +1
native color space
offsets Red 1 Green 23 Blue 22
Gain Red 25 Green 18 Blue 9
Edge Enhancement off, others off.


Movie HDMI
D65

Movie mode
color tone WARM1
Picture size 16:9
cell light 9
contrast 83
brightness 53
sharpness 5
color 51
tint 50/50
Gamma -1
native color space
offsets Red 16 Green 30 Blue 19
Gain Red 47 Green 39 Blue 14
Edge Enhancement off, others off.

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The BT.1886 Project - Movie Modes

Greetings Again Colleagues,

I am working on trying to mimic BT.1886 calibration standard, recently adopted in 2011, for our movie modes. This standard lowers the gamma curve from 0% to 30% ire measurements and suppose to provide some additional pop to the picture while watching movies in dark viewing environments. Also, the gamma curve between 40% and 100% ire is raised to 2.4. To accomplish this on our tv, I had to raise the brightness setting. It is an ongoing project and later I will post settings for both component and hdmi inputs. This tv does not have the newer easier technology today's tvs have for the BT1886 calibration standard.

If you would like to see a sample, here are some tentative settings for the component input:

“The Component Settings”
Component 1 Input
Recommended for OTA and Cable Box viewing

Movie Component
D65 BT1886 Standard

Movie mode
color tone WARM1
Picture size 16:9
cell light 10
contrast 81
brightness 59
sharpness 4
color 50
tint 48/52
Gamma -1
native color space
offsets Red 41 Green 42 Blue 49
Gain Red 43 Green 40 Blue 15
Edge Enhancement off, others off.

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Mimic BT 1886 Movie Mode & LG Effect Standard Mode

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are the updated settings for component movie and standard modes. The movie mode was calibrated with the BT 1886 in mind to avoid black crush in dark scenes, and the standard mode was calibrated with gamma level at 1.9, which may be found on some LG tvs. This brightens up the picture.

“The Component Settings”
Component 1 Input
Recommended for OTA and Cable Box

Standard Component
8000K Color Temperature
For viewing in bright viewing environments

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 85
brightness 47
sharpness 2
color 50
tint 48/52
Gamma +2
native color space
offsets Red 16 Green 31 Blue 29
Gain Red 23 Green 15 Blue 10
Edge Enhancement off, others off.


Movie Component
D65 for viewing in dark viewing environments

Movie mode
color tone WARM1
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 81
brightness 59
sharpness 5
color 51
tint 48/52
Gamma -1
native color space
offsets Red 38 Green 39 Blue 36
Gain Red 49 Green 44 Blue 20
Edge Enhancement off, others off.

Please let me know what you think, and also if you would like for me to post updated hdmi settings.

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Mimic BT 1886 Movie & LG Effect Standard HDMI Modes

Greetings Colleagues,

Herein are the mimic BT 1886 movie mode and LG effect standard mode settings for hdmi inputs. The one thing BT 1886 and LG effect have in common is a low gamma level at 0% to 20% ire to reduce black crush in dark scenes. The movie mode levels off to gamma 2.4 between 40% ire and 100% ire. The standard mode has a gamma level of 1.9, which brightens up the picture considerably and this setting can be found on LG tvs. (Usually at this gamma level, this picture appears washed out. However, I use the native color space instead of auto to avoid the wash out problem).

Checked on February 20, 2016
Make sure that you set in the picture options menu for hdmi black level on "low." This will not change the calibrated settings, but should provide a better picture quality
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“The HDMI Settings”

HDMI 1 Input

Standard HDMI
8000K Color Temperature

For viewing in brightly lit rooms.

Standard mode
color tone Cool
Picture size screen fit
cell light 10
contrast 83
brightness 47
sharpness 2
color 50
tint 49/51
Gamma +2
native color space
offsets Red 11 Green 31 Blue 32
Gain Red 25 Green 16 Blue 10
Edge Enhancement off, others off.
Picture Options: HDMI Black Level Low


Movie HDMI
D65

For viewing in dark rooms.

Movie mode
color tone WARM1
Picture size 16:9 or screen size
cell light 10
contrast 82
brightness 59
sharpness 3
color 50
tint 49/51
Gamma -1
native color space
offsets Red 31 Green 30 Blue 27
Gain Red 46 Green 43 Blue 17
Edge Enhancement off, others off.
Picture Options: HDMI Black Level Low

Please let me know what you think.
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Recent Update

Mimic BT 1886 for hdmi movie mode and LG effect for hdmi standard mode note posted regarding picture options setting.

Picture looks great.
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Vincentfan,

It's great to see you continue to post your settings updates. I still have a 50pnb450. Not the largest plasma tv I own, but the most used and still has a great picture. I'm going to try out your settings and see what they look like.
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Recent Settings and Gamma Curves

Greetings Prerunnerv6,

I hope that you like the new hdmi or component settings. I usually peruse the forum to review the latest discussion and technique on improving picture quality.

The BT 1886 standard for movie mode is a recent recommended standard that improves picture detail in dark scenes when viewing movies. One of the forum members commented that the BT 1886 standard is better than watching a tv with the new HDR technology.

To attempt to obtain this standard for our tv, I had to adjust the brightness setting to "pull down the gamma curve" towards 2.0 or lower. Our tv does not have the newer technology where this calibration could be easily done. (see the gamma curve below). This standard does provide for more detail for the movie mode.

As for the standard mode setting, I attempted to calibrate the tv with a gamma level at 1.9, which is used by some LG tvs. To avoid a milky picture appearance, I used the native color space and the picture options setting for hdmi black level "low" to increase the color gamut. As a result, the picture at this gamma level does not look milky and, I think, has a slight 3D appearance. See the gamma curve below for this calibration.

I will post new calibration settings if I see any new or interesting techniques. Otherwise, I will be playin' my guitars in fingerstyle.

Again, your colleague in picture quality,

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Minor HDMI Corrections

Greetings colleagues,

Just a few minor corrections. Found out that my hdmi calibrations were with the hdmi black level in the picture options set to low or greyed out (which is the same). Set the hdmi black level to low and not to normal. It is okay if it is greyed out, which means the setting is low.

For hdmi and component standard modes, set sharpness to 4, and for movie modes set sharpness to 6. I looked at the "pausing picture on the tv" technique to see when artifacts appear, instead of using a sharpness pattern through the blu ray player.

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The Edge Enhancement - Sharpness Recommendation

Greetings Colleagues,

After viewing many television settings, I highly recommend for hdmi and component sharpness settings to set sharpness to 2 for standard mode and sharpness to 5 for movie mode, and the edge enhancement settings turned to "on."

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Final Posting

Greetings all,

This is perhaps my final posting in this thread. My final recommendation is for all sharpness settings at 0 and edge enhancement turned off. The picture actually looks natural and better. This is for hdmi, ota and component inputs.

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