The following was taken from a different thread as I couldn't understand why everyone prefers Cinema Mode instead of Standard Mode when Standard looks much better to me personally.
Question, why do most recommend using the different Cinema/Movie modes? The colors look much more accurate on my PN42B450 on Standard than they do on Cinema.
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Originally Posted by zspec1 /forum/post/16315664
Most tv sets cinema mode are setup closer to the d65k standard. I recommend you watch it in cinema mode for a couple of days, then switch to standard and tell us if you think it still looks better in standard mode.
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Originally Posted by mcjasonb /forum/post/16315899
yes, movie mode is the way to go. at first i wasn't so sure, but it is definitely the best. especially if you're watching in very low light conditions.
First off, what is d65k standard? I have said it before that I am new to all of this and I do not plan on having any professional calibration done so the only thing I have to go by is my eyes. Hopefully there are enough PN**B450 owners here to contribute to this. If you can all share your picture settings and maybe give a brief description of your setup and viewing style (cable stb/satellite, dvd/Blu-ray, Standard Mode/Cinema, day/night, standard definition/hd and such)
I am interested to read some replies and see what everyone prefers. Thanks
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Originally Posted by WSenkow /forum/post/16779773
I haven't posted the settings I use for Blu-Ray viewing, the dark tone and dynamic contrast are off for that source. Instead of me defending my usage of these features for watching tv, perhaps give them a try for a day or two and then get back to me.
dallows, these are my settings for watching Blu-Ray. I have the Samsung BD-P1600 player with HDMI cable. I have only seen three movies so this is what I use so far....
Okay, since this thread is chock-full of suggestions, I have reduced my Sharpness to 20, turned off Edge Enhancement, Black Tone, and Dynamic Contrast, turned up the Cell Light to 10, and everyone has left my living-room because they no longer feel like watching tv.
Are there more adjustments I can make to keep the door-to-door salesmen away too? Is the answer in the audio settings by chance?
Okay, since this thread is chock-full of suggestions, I have reduced my Sharpness to 20, turned off Edge Enhancement, Black Tone, and Dynamic Contrast, turned up the Cell Light to 10, and everyone has left my living-room because they no longer feel like watching tv.
LMAOROF
Put it back to what it was originally on, its your set and your eyes you chose whats best. I did try your settings and I liked them but I just happen to like Dans better but that my opinion. Dans did his with tools and you did yours with eyes and you did a great job also. The most important thing is that you are happy with your tv. Now for the bright side of everyone leaveing the room is you get to watch what you want to watch
Standard Mode - Calibrated using combo DVE and AVSHD Disc
Cell Light = 10
Contrast = 70
Brightness = 47
Sharpness = 50
Color = 40
Tint = G47/R53
Black Tone = Off
Dynamic Contrast = Medium
Gamma = -1
Color Space = Auto
White Balance = Default
Flesh Tone = 0
Edge Enhancement = Off
Pics below are using my above Standard mode and Dan's settings. I won't say which are which at this point. They're just numbered. 1's are all the same mode, as are the 2's. Pics kinda suck but its the best I could do at the moment. You can pretty much tell the differences though.
EDIT: I'm pretty sure these first two are supposed to be based on a gray image. It was from the AVSHD.
I also question sometimes when people talk about "black detail" and stuff. I mean in some cases how can you be so sure that what you're seeing is what was intended to be seen? We all know alterations are made to movies/scenes on the editing floor for certain effects.
Wow picture 1 def. looks better. Also, I now have about 120 Hours on the Plasma. Is it safe to game now and should I keep my Brightness and Contrast at 50%. I think it looks better when the contrast and brightness are turned up, but I also don't want to kill my Plasma
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Originally Posted by Shizdan /forum/post/16783880
Wow picture 1 def. looks better. Also, I now have about 120 Hours on the Plasma. Is it safe to game now and should I keep my Brightness and Contrast at 50%. I think it looks better when the contrast and brightness are turned up, but I also don't want to kill my Plasma
If you have the same pn42b450 panel I can tell you not to really worry. I adjusted the settings a little bit during my like 150hr break in, but I basically used Standard Mode the whole time, then calibrated after. I wouldn't worry so much about burn-in and IR. It's rare that you'll actually get IR that won't clear.
I would go ahead and calibrate your set how you see fit and then enjoy. There's the pixel shift which by default is set to 2x2 pixels every 2 minutes (I think) and you can use the scrolling feature to clear any small stuff that might pop up.
I can tell you that in the almost 4 months owning it I haven't seen any burn-in. And I've just left images on the screen for a bit too.
I've found that using a tripod and setting the timer helps get a very stable clear picture. Also, using the daylight mode helps get the correct color temperature, since it tends to reference 6500K, or closer to how our TV's are calibrated.
Just make sure you use the same settings for all pics.
I have a Canon and a Samsung digital camera, and I have a MUCH easier time with the Canon getting it to take pictures that actually match what I see on the screen. Problem is, it's an old 2MP A60, and I think it just died last week.
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Originally Posted by stereomandan /forum/post/16785020
I've found that using a tripod and setting the timer helps get a very stable clear picture. Also, using the daylight mode helps get the correct color temperature, since it tends to reference 6500K, or closer to how our TV's are calibrated.
Just make sure you use the same settings for all pics.
I have a Canon and a Samsung digital camera, and I have a MUCH easier time with the Canon getting it to take pictures that actually match what I see on the screen. Problem is, it's an old 2MP A60, and I think it just died last week.
What do you think of the shots? They're pretty close to what I was seeing. I'll fiddle with it more. Not sure what my daylight mode is but I'll check it out. No tripod though. I was trying to steady it on my knee, haha.
I can tell you that the camera's Auto mode made a heavy, heavy blue image.
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Originally Posted by dallows /forum/post/16785248
What do you think of the shots? They're pretty close to what I was seeing. I'll fiddle with it more. Not sure what my daylight mode is but I'll check it out. No tripod though. I was trying to steady it on my knee, haha.
I can tell you that the camera's Auto mode made a heavy, heavy blue image.
I was holding off saying which I like better because I'm travelling and am looking at the pics with a so-so laptop monitor. The #1 pictures look much better, more natural, on this computer. The #2 have a red tint on this monitor. I'll have to make sure to take pictures of my B450 with my settings for comparison.
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Originally Posted by stereomandan /forum/post/16786889
I was holding off saying which I like better because I'm travelling and am looking at the pics with a so-so laptop monitor. The #1 pictures look much better, more natural, on this computer. The #2 have a red tint on this monitor. I'll have to make sure to take pictures of my B450 with my settings for comparison.
Guys, I'm scared crapless to game on my Plasma! I want to play some Gears of War 2 for around 3 hours, But I'm to scared of Burn in!!!!!!!. I wish I could just enjoy my purchased PN42B450B1D. I have around 125 Hours on it and about 70 of those with the break in DVD.
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Originally Posted by Shizdan /forum/post/16787218
Guys, I'm scared crapless to game on my Plasma! I want to play some Gears of War 2 for around 3 hours, But I'm to scared of Burn in!!!!!!!. I wish I could just enjoy my purchased PN42B450B1D. I have around 125 Hours on it and about 70 of those with the break in DVD.
More Pics. Same settings. Some are a bit worse though. Still fairly accurate. Obviously not as I see it though. Also not optimal viewing. Had the kitchen light on for the girlfriend.
Im going to take a wild guess and say #1 is standard mode. I say that because I remember Dallows saying that in movie mode with warm2 it has a more yellowish tinge. I notice that myself in my tv when switching from normal to warm2. You dont even have to switch between satandard and movie, it basically just the color tone. With that being said I still prefer warm2 and movie using Dans settings. once again thank you Dan absolutely stunning
Couple questions and notes that I'm not sure I mentioned(others I probably have).
When I take Dan's settings and then look at the calibration discs, the colors are off. Doesn't make sense to me. I know he used actual equip and a color-meter, butto me it should match, no?
If you're seeing too much blue it's either you monitor, OR the camera. I would lean more towards the camera because it takes very blue pictures using the auto mode and I think it carries over into the other modes. Without heavy adjustments I found a mode that worked okay, but it's not going to match exactly with what I see in person obviously.
Lastly, when switching back and forth from my Standard to Dan's Movie mode there is very little difference in the colors. Only the brightness and clarity of the image. I wish I could take out Dynamic so switching back and forth would be easier, lol.
I still can't get passed the overall cloudy and overcast look to Movie/Warm2 Nothing looks as clear as it should. You take a movie like bolt or wall-e and those are obviously very clear, crisp movies. You just don't get that picture in Movie mode.
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Originally Posted by kanpol /forum/post/16787585
Im going to take a wild guess and say #1 is standard mode. I say that because I remember Dallows saying that in movie mode with warm2 it has a more yellowish tinge. I notice that myself in my tv when switching from normal to warm2. You dont even have to switch between satandard and movie, it basically just the color tone. With that being said I still prefer warm2 and movie using Dans settings. once again thank you Dan absolutely stunning
Sorry, just figured I'd pop in here as a B650 owner, but I have the same feeling about his shots. The second picture in each set is probably warm2, and I definitely notice an unnatural red overcast to the entire screen.
My warm2 mode definitely doesn't experience this. Here is my photo album where you can see everything is in warm2 mode (although taken with a crappy camera):
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Originally Posted by Aeonus /forum/post/16789817
Sorry, just figured I'd pop in here as a B650 owner, but I have the same feeling about his shots. The second picture in each set is probably warm2, and I definitely notice an unnatural red overcast to the entire screen.
My warm2 mode definitely doesn't experience this. Here is my photo album where you can see everything is in warm2 mode (although taken with a crappy camera):
Aeonus mine is the 42b450 and mine doesnt do that either. Like I said I notice a difference between normal and warm2 but not that bad. I have the day off today and I'll try to take some flicks but like many others camera aint so great and photos arent my thing
but I'll do my best
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