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post #11191 of 11217 Old 06-17-2014, 06:11 AM
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Just posted an update on the site tonight. Initial order for 100pcs placed today. Should arrive ready-for-testing in about mid-July. Will be a busy time with several work and non-work trips planned for late summer, but I will try as always to get it done as quickly as I can. Website is almost ready to accept orders. Paypal account is setup and "buy now" buttons are ready. Just waiting for the units to arrive now and start playing with them to enable purchases.

We're closer than ever.
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That's great news, Dane. Will be ordering one as soon as you give us the word!

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Thanks for the update Dane. I too will be in line waiting to hit the "buy it here" button when it's ready. Awesome work and can't wait to get my TV back to its best!

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Same here for my V10!
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I'll just be sitting here staring at my computer screen for the next few weeks waiting for word that the Buy Now Button is active.
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Any updates?
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Any updates?
As a matter of fact, yes: http://audiodane.dandk.org/pmcv1s-in-the-house/
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Thanks for giving us an update.
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It sounds like maybe September now at the earliest.
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If someone wants to pay my salary for the next few weeks, I'd be happy to work on it full time! God, then family, then work, then PMCv1. That's the order of things, and is why I never took preorders or kickstarters, because I knew I could not promise a timetable -- no matter how much I wanted to. (Mironto's DIY is always an option for those who can't wait.)

I was actually just talking about the project with my wife tonight, counting up what's left, and came up with about 4-6 evenings of work.. LEDs and switches are working, next is verifying the tv communication is still good (should be! But always double check on new hardware), then figuring out how to get all these boards programmed and tested, and then getting all the paypal stuff online at the website, then soldering on the right connectors, testing them, and putting them in the mail..

There's really not much left, considering how far we've come and how many models we're supporting with a single device..

I'm actually nervous though, since its a year later, if there will be any customers left-- another year means that many more folks who have retired their plasma to the kids room or rec room and no longer care.. Time will tell.. If I can't sell them all, maybe I'll try to sell them as micro-controller hobby boards........

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You can still count on my order! Thanks for all of your work on this, Dane.
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I would like to ask audiodane if PMCv1 support panasonic vt20e 42 inch european model series?
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I'm actually nervous though, since its a year later, if there will be any customers left-- another year means that many more folks who have retired their plasma to the kids room or rec room and no longer care.. Time will tell.. If I can't sell them all, maybe I'll try to sell them as micro-controller hobby boards........

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With all the good plasmas going out of production, you might end up with more customers than you anticipate!

I can't wait to get my PMCv1!
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I'm actually nervous though, since its a year later, if there will be any customers left

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My Panny is still going strong, and I hope it will be for years to come.

You can still count on my order, Dane, and thanks!

Best regards,
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Dane

I just discovered this new activity after months of silence. I plan to buy the board when available.

I do have one question. After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel?
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I'm actually nervous though, since its a year later, if there will be any customers left-- another year means that many more folks who have retired their plasma to the kids room or rec room and no longer care.. Time will tell.. If I can't sell them all, maybe I'll try to sell them as micro-controller hobby boards........

Cheers,
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I am still waiting for it. Actually, it is your project that kept me from retiring my plasma.

I do have the same question e1701b had: After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel? I know there is a reset button to set it back, but anyone seen any problems after the reset? Or Panasonic was over cautious in their original design?

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I doubt anyone (outside of Panasonic) really knows for sure what the consequences of this will be.

I did mine originally in October 2013 and once again in May. No problems for me so far.

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I do have the same question e1701b had: After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel? I know there is a reset button to set it back, but anyone seen any problems after the reset? Or Panasonic was over cautious in their original design?
I reset my 54V10 roughly a year ago (and one time since then) and have seen absolutely ZERO issues. All it has done for me is make my TV look like it did right out of the box.

I don't think you have any reason to be concerned.

I turn the sharpness on my TV all the way up, because that's how I like my picture... real sharp.
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I would like to ask audiodane if PMCv1 support panasonic vt20e 42 inch european model series?
I don't yet have the service manual for the VT20E model. Or if I do (if someone sent it to me recently), I haven't looked at it yet. My big push to research models was late last year, the results of which can be seen at the bottom if the main PMCv1 page under the Q&A "Is my model supported?"

I've been working since then as time permits to simply get the first PMCv1 finished and out the door. Once that happens I may be able to dig for more manuals.. The US model VT20 is on the "hopeful" list which means I've looked at the manual for the VT20 and it seems possible, but I needed to spend more time with the service manual to really make an educated guess.

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With all the good plasmas going out of production, you might end up with more customers than you anticipate!

I can't wait to get my PMCv1!
That'd be great! If I can burn through the first 100 quickly enough, I can build a bunch more and maybe drop the price some due to economies of scale!

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I do have one question. After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel?
And this one..

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I do have the same question e1701b had: After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel? I know there is a reset button to set it back, but anyone seen any problems after the reset? Or Panasonic was over cautious in their original design?
I'll answer these two questions by quoting yet someone else..

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I doubt anyone (outside of Panasonic) really knows for sure what the consequences of this will be.

I did mine originally in October 2013 and once again in May. No problems for me so far.
I agree with pittsoccer33..

The PMCv1 unfortunately comes with a significant disclaimer.. I will do my best to "undo" the clear if for some reason it doesn't work as expected. That's the best I can do because:

1) I don't have all these models to test with the PMCv1 to verify operation (but I will be compiling a list of feedback received with model numbers); and

2) no one really knows for sure when a non-zero value will become necessary. I have made some provisions to possibly update the software if we ever learn that a non-zero value is in fact necessary. One thought is that the PMCv1 will make it easy enough for a larger population of sets to be tested to finally start answering that question. Then we can begin to adapt the clearing mechanism to accommodate different needs..

Cheers,
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I'm actually nervous though, since its a year later, if there will be any customers left-- another year means that many more folks who have retired their plasma to the kids room or rec room and no longer care.. Time will tell.. If I can't sell them all, maybe I'll try to sell them as micro-controller hobby boards........
Well, you have one definite sale right here, as I hope to stretch my 65V10 for another couple of years...

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Dane

I just discovered this new activity after months of silence. I plan to buy the board when available.

I do have one question. After all these years is it still safe to reset the black level switch if Panasonic intended for it to decline over the life of the panel?

I have made the reset (and re-reset later) on my 42V10E, using Mironto´s guide, on January, and 7 months later, TV is doing just fine, with is initial black levels in good shape :-)
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Well, you have one definite sale right here, as I hope to stretch my 65V10 for another couple of years...
Same here - count me in as I want to love my 65V10 again.
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Count me in for my 58V10 that is now delegated to the basement. I have been watching my VT60 for about 9 months now and am used to great MLL's!!

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Count me in for my 58V10 that is now delegated to the basement. I have been watching my VT60 for about 9 months now and am used to great MLL's!!
Same here. Didn't realize have much my set had changed until I purchased my ZT. I'm ready for those deep blacks to return on my 54V10!
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I'm still with you, audiodane. I just love the picture of my 50v10 and can't imagine how much better it will be once I get to do the reset. Bring it on...
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My 50S1 looks worse than a cheap lcd now. I upgraded to a 60F5300 and the difference in black levels are night and day. I still can't believe Panasonic got away with this.
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Where can i find panasonic vt20 european model service manual?Pm me plz if you find it.Thanks!
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I'm still with you Dane, and happy to wait as long as it takes. As I've said here before, that this is happening at all is a miracle as far as I'm concerned and I don't begrudge you your sleep or fulfillment of other responsibilities while you make this happen.

I just watched the Lego Movie (which I'll bet would look even better on my rehabbed set) and my new motto is "Everything is Awesome!"

Looking forward to PCMv1 awesomeness...
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