Originally Posted by DocuMaker
Umm, if by going into the SM you can squeeze as much as 37 fL out of THX mode...then why oh why is it the calibrators at the shootout ran the 50V10 at only a little more than 25 fL, nearly 10 fL dimmer than the rest of the sets, which were running at 35 fL?
This clearly hurt the V10 in the contest. When you have a wall of displays running at 35 fL in the contest, and then one display at a lower output of only 25+ fL, it is going to appear dimmer/duller than the rest.
Perhaps some compromises in accuracy had to be made by ChadB to squeeze the 37 fL output in THX mode? If there are no real compromises that must take place to achieve 35 fL, then there is no excuse why the calibrator(s) at the shootout could not have gone into the SM and increased the peak luminance to the same level as all the other displays, to level the playing field.
Of course, the sponsor of the shootout did order a large number of KRP's to sell, and it wouldn't hurt sales if the gap between the V10 and the 500M appeared to be larger than it really is, right???
Perhaps ChadB could advise on how much peak output can be acheived in THX mode on the V10's while still maintaining reasonable accuracy.
I find it funny that after 3 months you are still pissed that your favorite panel did not garner the praise that you think it should have. Boo hoo hoo. Want a bucket for your tears? The below has already been stated before, but....
Like it or not, the 50V10 at that shootout could not get over 25fL regardless of trying to manipulate the contrast control in the Service Menu (yeah i know about ALL control in the SM and what and how they interact with each other) or attempting to do anything else. Like it or not every single panel at the shootout was calibrated with a Day and Night mode. So you think I should have used another Day mode instead of Custom? Hmmm, what if I were to use Standard which had a 1.7 gamma. How about Vivid? I reviewed every SINGLE mode on that panel and chose the best 2 video modes available on that panel for the shootout. THX was the best for the Night mode and Custom was best for Day. Those are the facts for that panel and I really don't care how you or others think what would have been best for that panel. Better yet, I really do not know how you can really bitch and complain about it in the first place. Were you there to sit with me when I evaluated the different A/V modes? Didn't think so.
Docmaker, I am sick and tired your snide remarks attempting to discredit the calibration competence of myself, Kevin Miller, and Ed Johnson (same for you DicFiFun). I promise that we know a hell of a lot more about how to calibrate displays, especially the V10, than you ever will.
I have calibrated plenty of V10s and some calibrated just like the one at the shootout and others performed better. Its called "panel variance". Here is a list of equipment used at the shootout the display calibration (again)...
Konica Minolta CS-200 (within its NIST certification period)
Konica Minolta LS-100 (within its NIST certification period)
Klien K-10 (within its NIST certification period)
i1pro (brand new and within its NIST certification period)
Sencore VP403 pattern generator
AVS709HD pattern disc (15% windowed patterns) per a Pioneer Elite BD-P09 Blu-Ray player.