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Gelinas's Avatar Gelinas
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I'm looking for a little display upgrade advice.

For some time now I have been pretty set on getting the Panasonic 54V10. I was able to get a very good deal on it thru my employee purchase program.

The problem is that 1) it is now "not available to buy direct" from Panasonic, and 2) the price has raised two hundred dollars or so. This has me thinking of getting the 58S1 instead (I can get it for 200+ dollars cheaper than the 54V10.) Based on my picture below showing a 42" what are people's thoughts on a 54 or 58?

Whatever I chose will be mounted on the 2 risers that you can just barely see my 42" currently attached to.

I am currently leaning towards the 58s1, although it's picture is not as good as the V10, it should be a very nice step up from my entry level 42" 720p Panasonic in terms of picture quality. My apprehension is because my wife thinks the 58 will look too big on the risers of the studiotech dp-2. In contrast, I think I would really enjoy the extra size of the 58--it would prolong the period of time that I think its "big enough" aka onset of upgradeitis.

The 58s1 is 56 inches wide

The 54V10 is 52.6 inches wide

The stand is 47 inches wide.

So the question is, what do you think about a TV that is 5-9 inches wider than the TV stand? From just eyeballing it, there looks to be 6 or so inches between my front mains and the TV stand. So if the 58 extends 4.5" past the TV stand on either side it would basically fill all of the space between the mains. In contrast the 54 would likely extend to the halfway point between the mains and edges of the studiotech.

It is not a concern whether or not the stand can support either model, rather I am looking for opinions of the aesthetics of the choices.


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I think a few inches overhang on each end is okay. My stand is 56" wide and I'm looking at 65" sets which are typically 62" across. I would have ~3inch overhang. I saw a similar setup at Frys and it looked fine.
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No problem on some slight over-hang. I have about an inch or so on each side and I think it looks good and is plwnty sturdy. No issues here!
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What I'm wondering is if 4 1/2" overhang on either side would look silly...or if I can get away with it.

My brother has a 50" in a normal size bedroom and I enjoy the "luxuriously big" feeling it gives me.

But at the same time I don't want company leaving our home saying that the Huge TV looked dumb in our space.
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I had an overhang of 2-3" on each side with my last setup with no problems. However, make sure your stand will handle the added weight easily!!
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I think it will look fine. You might have to move the pictures above your TV up a little bit, though!
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Go with the 58". If you had both TVs setup in your house and calibrated I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between them PQ wise. Size is what usually makes people go WOW.

Why not wall mount it? You could get a mount that extends out from the wall so it doesn't block your thermostat. Monoprice has them really cheap and would probably really improve the look of the room. I wish I could in my house but my TV sits in front of my staircase making it impossible.
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I have a 54s1 on top of what used to be a stand for 32" CRT TV. It's just fine. IMO, there's nothing particularly pleasing about TV width smaller than the stand. In fact, I recommend you get a bigger one like 65s1 instead for that viewing distance.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dsinger View Post

I had an overhang of 2-3" on each side with my last setup with no problems. However, make sure your stand will handle the added weight easily!!

It can, the risers are rated at 150 pounds

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Originally Posted by rcp28 View Post

I think it will look fine. You might have to move the pictures above your TV up a little bit, though!

Haha, good observation, and something that I have already factored in no matter what size we move up to.
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Originally Posted by mbyrnes View Post

Go with the 58". If you had both TVs setup in your house and calibrated I doubt you would be able to tell the difference between them PQ wise. Size is what usually makes people go WOW.

Why not wall mount it? You could get a mount that extends out from the wall so it doesn't block your thermostat. Monoprice has them really cheap and would probably really improve the look of the room. I wish I could in my house but my TV sits in front of my staircase making it impossible.

the 58 is what I am leaning towards if I get wife approval. The reason that we're not wall mounting is because we would strongly prefer to use the risers built into the stand.

Apologies if I was not more clear. I'm not worried about wether or not the 58 would fit, but rather how it would look floating abouve the center channel/tv stand.
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If the manuf. say's the stand is capable of a set that size, it will look good. I have a 58" on a 52" stand and it is almost exactly the same size
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If the manuf. say's the stand is capable of a set that size, it will look good. I have a 58" on a 52" stand and it is almost exactly the same size

Studiotech says, "The DP-2 will accommodate video/plasma TVs of all sizes from 37" to 62" with either the table mounting or rear mounting option."

By the way, do you have any pictures available of your tv/stand combo?
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I prefer the stand wider than the screen, I went through this same quest to find the right stand this time last year when I got my Pioneer 151.

I don't like all the components exposed, this is the one I got, I have the top center door removed for my center channel which is the same color

http://www.bdiusa.com/theater/novia_8429.shtml
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I actually think filling up the empty space inboard of the mains with a 58" set will look better than your current setup. If you can get it higher so there's more space between the bottom of the set and the top of the center speaker the tv will appear to be "floating" and really look cool. I think guests will be impressed by the nice big picture that covers up those plain yellow walls.
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Originally Posted by GqMagic View Post

I prefer the stand wider than the screen, I went through this same quest to find the right stand this time last year when I got my Pioneer 151.

I don't like all the components exposed, this is the one I got, I have the top center door removed for my center channel which is the same color

http://www.bdiusa.com/theater/novia_8429.shtml

Thanks for the input. That is a very nice stand and tv you have there.
I think there may be a bit of dust on your camera lens.

All joking aside, If I had the money and space for a different stand I'd consider the BDI or something simillar, but as you can see from my picture, space is quite limited for my front stage.
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I think guests will be impressed by the nice big picture that covers up those plain yellow walls.

Ouch, they're not that plain.....

As for the TV's height above the center channel/top of the stand. It currently looks a bit different than that pic I posted above. I've moves to a much bigger center channel. With that said, the risers allow me practically infinite vertical adjustment for the TV placement. Personally I like it just high enough to clear the center channel without the risers visible from a seated position.
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I posted this in another section of the forum...

My Swing Arm/Riser states it will hold a TV 50" or 135lbs. If I find a 54 or 58" that is less than 135lbs, do you think it would be ok?
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Originally Posted by Chris Ruhl View Post

I posted this in another section of the forum...

My Swing Arm/Riser states it will hold a TV 50" or 135lbs. If I find a 54 or 58" that is less than 135lbs, do you think it would be ok?

I don't see why not. If you are concerned, drop the manafacturer of your stand an email.
ShaqDan's Avatar ShaqDan
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Go by what is acceptable to YOU, not some strangers on the internet.
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Go by what is acceptable to YOU, not some strangers on the internet.

...there's nothing wrong with asking what the popular opinion is of something. He might be concerned with what other people that come to his house would think and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Here's a clearer picture of the 151 above:



As to the OP's question, it's your call. My preference is to have the stand at least the same width if not slightly larger.
Gelinas's Avatar Gelinas
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Crimson,

That is a MUCH better picture. Very nice set-up you have there.
The wood on your stand looks very rich and your mains are quite unique. How does it sound having your center channel closed into that shelf?
If I could afford one, I'd definitely not hesitate in getting Kuro PRO - 151FD.
But I just can't swing the price tag. Have you considered removing the side speakers from your display?

My issue is trying to get the most out of the stand that I currently have.

I'm thinking of going for the 58.


ShaqDan,

I completely agree with your statement about what looks best to ME.
What you need to keep in mind is how difficult it is for people to test out several different TV sizes in THEIR home. Especially if you can only afford to have one in your home at once. This is why I'm looking for others opinions/experiences/pictures.
Gelinas's Avatar Gelinas
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Ok, I just measured the space between the stand and each main. It made me realize that the left one is 10 inches or so away and the right is just over 7 inches away. I may have to adjust the placement a bit and possibly slide the sub a little bit over. We'll see how it all comes together.

As of this moment, I am set on getting the 58S1. It's such a good deal and will be 16" bigger than my current set. I'm sure it will be pleasntly big.

Now All I have to do is wait for our tax return and talk my wife into the 58 (I've already talked her into a 54 but she is resisting the extra 4 inches. We'll see how it goes, I was able to talk her into the svs and upgrading to the csi A6. By now she knows if we don't go big, I will get a case of the "what if's"
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Can you photoshop a bigger screen into your picture?

Might give you a bit of a clue what it will look like.
Gelinas's Avatar Gelinas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by another schmo View Post

Can you photoshop a bigger screen into your picture?

Might give you a bit of a clue what it will look like.

Thats a great idea but I don't have photoshop or know how to use it.

Anyone who can do this I would GREATLY appreciate it.

Below is a size comparison for refrence between my 42 and a 58


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Mine over hangs the stand be 8 inches or so each side.
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Are still going to have the center channel in the same place? If so that might look strange having so much space between the TV and the stand.
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If you were originally getting the 54V10, have you considered the 54G10?

The extra 4" on the S1 is nice, but if you get extra features (and some upgrade in PQ) with the G10 and it fits your room/stand better, it might be worth considering.

And of course in addition to with make sure whatever stand you have is capable of handling the weight of whatever set you get! The 58S1 isn't incredibly heavy at ~110 pounds, but it's worth checking.
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I have mine on a "cafe" table.

 

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When I upgraded to a 50" plasma from a 37" inch plasma, I used cardboard cut to the dimensions of the new plasma I wanted to get a sense of the size/overhang with my then current TV stand. It gave me enough info to take the plunge. Lived with that for a while but I have since upgraded my TV stand to a doublewide Salamder brand stand - which I love.

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