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Since I was asked to start this thread over in the 2010 Panny thread, here it is.

Ordered my 50G20 last Friday at the local BB, they said it was in stock at the warehouse and would be here Wednesday. It actually showed up Tuesday, and I spent last evening getting it mounted on my Unibrak articulating mount. (check into these if you're looking for a mount, great value)

First thing I watched was Lost, and was of course, blown away. After 7 years of my 47" Panny crt rear-projection set I wasn't sure how it would compare. I always liked the old set's film-like quality and fast blur-free picture, but I was worried about nothing. The new set has far better PQ than the old. The blacks are amazing, and even the fastest camera pans during action scenes look flawless.

I don't have any measuring equipment and I don't have any prior plasma experience to tell you any differences, but if you have any other questions, I'll be glad to answer.

Here are some pics. I'll put up more after I get the install cleaned up.

The old girl getting put out to pasture.


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Sweet! glad you made this thread!

as you can tell I'm new here, but have been lurking for about a month or two to get ideas on what I wanted to buy, long story short Mine should be coming in today, and plan on following this thread very closely. Can't wait to get it all set up! thanks for all the help and future help every one!
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The only confirmed difference between the G20 and the G25 is that the G25 will accept a Network Camera (up to 8 cameras) while the G20 doesn't have this capability. The dimensions of both models are identical to one another, as are the stands, the remotes, and the specs according to the manuals. The pictures of both TVs on Panasonic's site as well as the illustrations in the Operating Manuals show them to be identical, and the physical dimensions on both models is identical. All the G20 and G25 models are 3.5" thick and the backs are flat. They're the same TV aside from the G25's Network Camera feature.

The G20 is available in 50" and 54" sizes.

The G25 is available in 42", 46", 50", and 54" sizes.

Link to Download the G20 Operating Manual PDF

Link to Download the G25 Operating Manual PDF

Link to D-Nice's Official 2010 Panasonic Settings/Issues Thread (Contains Panel Aging Procedure)

Link to Chad B Calibration Report and Review


I will add future FAQs, links, and updates as needed.

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Can you let me know what the internal speakers are like. Considering this TV for the family room (going from a JVC D-ILA which has some pretty good speakers).

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my 50g25 will be on its way within 24-48 hours.
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Can you let me know what the internal speakers are like. Considering this TV for the family room (going from a JVC D-ILA which has some pretty good speakers).

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They are downward firing and not near as good as the BBE speakers in my old rear-projection. Of course, that thing was a big ole 70's console stereo in comparison.

I would rate the G20 speakers as 'passable', not much else. Sorry.

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With the reduced pieces of glass, do you notice any buzzing on the set when things are really quiet or a bright scene is displayed on the TV?
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I can't find the post now, but someone wanted to know how far up from the bottom edge the lower mounting holes were.

Then answer is 5-3/4" within an eight or so. (have to eyeball a little as they aren't in the same plane)

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With the reduced pieces of glass, do you notice any buzzing on the set when things are really quiet or a bright scene is displayed on the TV?


None, but last night I turned the tv on and there was this deep thrumming sound that scared the crap out of me, till I realized it was coming from the refrigerator.

I'll try and listen more closely today, and let you know.

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Have you watched anything in THX mode yet? My G10 looks horrible in this mode and hope that the new G20 has improved on this.
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Have you watched anything in THX mode yet? My G10 looks horrible in this mode and hope that the new G20 has improved on this.

THX mode is my favorite setting, and looks perfect IMHO. But I don't really have anything to compare it with. It just seems real accurate with colors and skin tones. My set is also set to 'warm 2' which I'm not even sure takes effect in THX. I have a lot of experimenting to do.

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O.K., I just listened for buzzing. On bright white screens, I can hear it, but only if my ear is within 1/2" of the screen, all volume is off, and the house is quiet. I would rate it at about one hundredth of the level of sound the cable boxes hard drive spinning makes.

Not an issue.

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THX mode is my favorite setting, and looks perfect IMHO. But I don't really have anything to compare it with. It just seems real accurate with colors and skin tones. My set is also set to 'warm 2' which I'm not even sure takes effect in THX. I have a lot of experimenting to do.

If you can change the warm setting in THX mode... then changning the warm setting should change the colors. If not, why would they even let you change it in THX mode?

And if changing the warm setting in THX mode has no effect, then Panasonic has no brains if they allow you to change the warm setting in THX mode.
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O.K., I just listened for buzzing. On bright white screens, I can hear it, but only if my ear is within 1/2" of the screen, all volume is off, and the house is quiet. I would rate it at about one hundredth of the level of sound the cable boxes hard drive spinning makes.

Not an issue.

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Any idea where I can get the G20/25 in Canada? BestBuy and Future Shop doesn't have it yet... they say about 15-30days the SKU should be in their system... but i want it now!
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If you can change the warm setting in THX mode... then changning the warm setting should change the colors. If not, why would they even let you change it in THX mode?

And if changing the warm setting in THX mode has no effect, then Panasonic has no brains if they allow you to change the warm setting in THX mode.

I was just wondering if it did because I thought THX was kind of a 'definitive' setting. Did not intend to cast doubt. I'm looking now.

Yes, you can change the coolness setting while in THX mode.
Yes, it makes a difference.

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Remote pics for Nascar Dog.




The backlight does not light up when you push any button. It only comes on when you push the top left button under the power. It also does not light up all the buttons.

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What about the blacks, how are they?
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They actually put the remote backlight button under the power button?

I can see people turning off their sets unintentionally that way.
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i want to see closer pics of the bezel. haha I've been waiting to snag me a g25.
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What about the blacks, how are they?

The blacks seem awesome to me, but as you can tell, I'm an AV newb, and haven't been training my eyes for the last 5 years to the subtleties of deep blacks and trailing phosphors, etc... On these issues I recommend you wait till the expert reviews are out.

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man where the heck are you guys located im in NY here and none of the BB's are getting the G20 till the 13th I don't know if I can wait that long
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Mine's being delivered Friday. So excited! Coming from an old 26" 720p Magnavox LCD. Compared to this anything will be amazing.
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I can't find the post now, but someone wanted to know how far up from the bottom edge the lower mounting holes were.

Then answer is 5-3/4" within an eight or so. (have to eyeball a little as they aren't in the same plane)

That was me. It was in the 2010 Panny thread, but the info is better here anyway. Could you possibly check the distance to the top holes also - either from the lower holes or from the bottom edge, just let me know which :-).

Thanks!

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That was me. It was in the 2010 Panny thread, but the info is better here anyway. Could you possibly check the distance to the top holes also - either from the lower holes or from the bottom edge, just let me know which :-).

Thanks!

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Never mind, I see it on p8 in the manual:

Left to right spacing of the mounting holes (G20/G25):
a: 15.7 (400 mm) (for 42/46/50)
19.7 (500 mm) (54)

Top to bottom spacing of the mounting holes (G20/G25):
b: 11.8 (300 mm)
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What is the difference between the G20 and the G25?
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Hi there!

Just got my TX42G20E on Monday, and Tuesday night the panes fries itself and a black vertical bar, around 10cm in width, shows up around 1/3 from the left.





Panasonic repair guy will pick it up tomorrow.

On another note, I've been looking at the PVR-recordings on my external 2.5" harddisk, and it turns out the disk is formatted in UFS2 format, and each recording takes up four files. Files are unrecognizable, but in case someone wants to look into it, the harddisk can be mounted in Linux like this:

$ mount devicename /mnt/panasonic -t ufs -o ro -o ufstype=ufs2

These four files make up last nights HD-recording of Star Trek - The Final Frontier:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81392 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.aid
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 7995064320 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.tts
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81392 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.vid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 452 2010-03-03 00:30 4.dat

I hope someone can use this :-)

Will keep you posted on the progress of my G20 repair :-/
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What is the difference between the G20 and the G25?

The color of the "Pansonic" logo at the bottom of the bezel and the ability to connect a security camera. I believe that's it.
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Since I was asked to start this thread over in the 2010 Panny thread, here it is.

Ordered my 50G20 last Friday at the local BB, they said it was in stock at the warehouse and would be here Wednesday. It actually showed up Tuesday, and I spent last evening getting it mounted on my Unibrak articulating mount. (check into these if you're looking for a mount, great value)

First thing I watched was Lost, and was of course, blown away. After 7 years of my 47" Panny crt rear-projection set I wasn't sure how it would compare. I always liked the old set's film-like quality and fast blur-free picture, but I was worried about nothing. The new set has far better PQ than the old. The blacks are amazing, and even the fastest camera pans during action scenes look flawless.

I currently have the same panny crt but the 53" inch version and will be replacing it with the Panasonic 54" G25. I can't wait to see the difference!
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Hi there!

Just got my TX42G20E on Monday, and Tuesday night the panes fries itself and a black vertical bar, around 10cm in width, shows up around 1/3 from the left.

Panasonic repair guy will pick it up tomorrow.

On another note, I've been looking at the PVR-recordings on my external 2.5" harddisk, and it turns out the disk is formatted in UFS2 format, and each recording takes up four files. Files are unrecognizable, but in case someone wants to look into it, the harddisk can be mounted in Linux like this:

$ mount devicename /mnt/panasonic -t ufs -o ro -o ufstype=ufs2

These four files make up last nights HD-recording of Star Trek - The Final Frontier:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81392 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.aid
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 7995064320 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.tts
-rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 81392 2010-03-03 00:30 4_00.vid
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 452 2010-03-03 00:30 4.dat

I hope someone can use this :-)

Will keep you posted on the progress of my G20 repair :-/

neurx, is yours a european model? I wasn't aware US models had the usb hard drive recording option.

And obikanobis, I'm in the Dallas area.

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