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****UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE SHOULD THESE SETTINGS BE USED WITH ANY OTHER SOURCE MATERIAL BEYOND THE PANEL AGING THUMBDRIVE FILES****

Recommended 100 Hour Panel Aging settings for North American Panasonic TC-PxxS2/G20/G25/VT20/VT25 models (ONLY to be used with Evangelo2's Thumbdrive Files!!!!!!!!)

*****Note: This procedure is designed to equally and evenly age all pixels and ensure the reference settings listed below provide maximum satisfaction. This procedure is NOT designed nor recommended to be used as Image Retention and/or Burn-in prevention.*****

Photo Settings

Picture:
Picture Mode: Photo
Contrast: 100
Brightness: 50
Color: 75
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 50
Color Temp: Cool (Cool 2 on G20/25 and VT20/25 displays)
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Slideshow Settings
Display Interval: Slow
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North American TC-PxxS2 Reference Settings

Picture:
Picture Mode: Cinema
Contrast: 71
Brightness: 60
Color: 47
Tint: G9
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: Warm
x.v. Color: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Advance Options
MPEG NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

Service Menu Offsets

WB-ADJ MENU
R-DRV: +5
G-DRV: -11
B-DRV: -11
R-CUT: -2
G-CUT: 0
B-CUT: +4

Note: These offsets must be entered for both Color matrixes. You access the different matrixes by using a 1080i/p signal for the HD matrix and 480i/p signal for the SD matrix. The WB Method Select option should be set to 00 instead of 03.

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AVS Panasonic TC-PxxS2 Post Calibration Report (Cinema).pdf 145.7607421875k . file
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North American TC-PxxG20/25 Reference Settings

Picture:
Picture Mode: THX
Contrast: 57
Brightness: 56
Color: 49
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 10
Color Temp: Warm2
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Advance Options
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

Service Menu Offsets

WB-ADJ MENU
R-DRV: -1
G-DRV: -8
B-DRV: +4
R-CUT: -8
G-CUT: 0
B-CUT: +3

Note: These offsets must be entered for both Color matrixes. You access the different matrixes by using a 1080i/p signal for the HD matrix and 480i/p signal for the SD matrix. The WB Method Select option should be set to 00 instead of 03.



Picture:
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 87
Brightness: 68
Color: 35
Tint: -3
Sharpness: 11
Color Temp: Warm2
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Pro Settings:
W/B High R: 0
W/B High B: +2
W/B Low R: +2
W/B Low B: -4
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

Advance Options
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

Note: These settings must be used with the offsets listed for THX mode!!!!

Calibration Report

 

AVS Panasonic TC-PxxG20(25) Post Calibration Report (THX).pdf 144.78125k . file

 

AVS Panasonic TC-PxxG20(25) Post Calibration Report (Custom).pdf 147.10546875k . file
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North American TC-PxxVT20/25 Reference Settings

Picture:
Picture Mode: THX
Contrast: 66
Brightness: 50
Color: 45
Tint: -1
Sharpness: 10
Color Temp: Warm2
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Advance Options
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

Service Menu Offsets

WB-ADJ MENU
R-DRV: -1
G-DRV: -11
B-DRV: +4
R-CUT: +1
G-CUT: 0
B-CUT: -3

Note: These offsets must be entered for both Color matrixes. You access the different matrixes by using a 1080i/p signal for the HD matrix and 480i/p signal for the SD matrix.


Picture:
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 57
Color: 39
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 11
Color Temp: Warm2
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Pro Settings:
W/B High R: 0
W/B High B: -1
W/B Low R: 0
W/B Low B: 0
Red Hue: 0 (VT25)
Green Hue: 0 (VT25)
Blue Hue: 0 (VT25)
Red Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Blue Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Green Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

Advance Options
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

3D
Picture Mode: Custom
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 57
Color: 35
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 11
Color Temp: Warm2
Color Management: Off
x.v. Color: Off
Photo Enhancement: Off
C.A.T.S: Off
Video NR: Off
Blur Reduction: Off

Pro Settings:
W/B High R: -1
W/B High B: -5
W/B Low R: +8
W/B Low B: -2
(VT25)
Red Hue: 0 (VT25)
Green Hue: 0 (VT25)
Blue Hue: 0 (VT25)
Red Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Blue Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Green Saturation: 0 (VT25)
Black Extension: 0
Gamma Adjustment: 2.2
Panel Brightness: Mid
Contour Emphasis: Off
AGC: 0

Advance Options
Block NR: Off
Mosquito NR: Off
Black Level: Light
3:2 Pulldown: On

Note: These settings must be used with the offsets listed for THX mode!!!!

Calibration Report

 

AVS Panasonic TC-PxxVT20(25) Post Calibration Report (THX).pdf 130.7880859375k . file

 

AVS Panasonic TC-PxxVT20(25) Post Calibration Report (Custom).pdf 135.4853515625k . file
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Thanks D-Nice.

I'm expecting a 50G25 to arrive sometime next week. You've had the S2 for a little bit (Couple of week?!). When do you expect to get your hands on a G2X?

Look forward to reading your thoughts/impressions...


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Sorry if this is a stupid question but why did you have your gamma target set at 1.9 for the S2?
Why not 2.22 or something close to that?

P.S. is it my idea or the cyan point was way off on a calibration report you posted some time ago? It doesn't look THAT bad now (or maybe I don't remember well...).

By the way, thanks for posting this.
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Sorry if this is a stupid question but why did you have your gamma target set at 1.9 for the S2?
Why not 2.22 or something close to that?

Because the S2 is not capable of 2.2 and 2.2 is not the standard for gamma in the first place

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P.S. is it my idea or the cyan point was way off on a calibration report you posted some time ago? It doesn't look THAT bad now (or maybe I don't remember well...).

That is a revised chart after I did additional tweaking.
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Thanks D-Nice.

I'm expecting a 50G25 to arrive sometime next week. You've had the S2 for a little bit (Couple of week?!). When do you expect to get your hands on a G2X?

Look forward to reading your thoughts/impressions...


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I already have a G20. You will see any settings for that panel before next weekend.
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I already have a G20. You will see any settings for that panel before next weekend.

Just for clarification, i presume the settings for the G20 would also pertain to the G25 correct?

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Just for clarification, i presume the settings for the G20 would also pertain to the G25 correct?

Yes
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Because the S2 is not capable of 2.2 and 2.2 is not the standard for gamma in the first place

That is a revised chart after I did additional tweaking.

Oh I always thought gamma should be set at 2.2-2.5. Isn't the point in calibrating the display to get as close as possible to a standard?
A gamma of 1.9 would make the display look very different to a display with 2.2-2.5, wouldn't it?

Maybe this is a bit off topic... sorry.
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Oh I always thought gamma should be set at 2.2-2.5. Isn't the point in calibrating the display to get as close as possible to a standard?
A gamma of 1.9 would make the display look very different to a display with 2.2-2.5, wouldn't it?

Yes it would look different (and it does). However, there still isn't a defined gamma target (aka standard gamma) for digital displays.
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Thanks a lot D-Nice!!!
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Yes it would look different (and it does). However, there still isn't a defined gamma target (aka standard gamma) for digital displays.

I didn't know that.

Well with a gamma of 1.9 at least the shadow detail should be good.

Thanks again D-Nice.
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I presume that when using the SD Card into to display Evangelo's images, the Display Interval setting for the SD Card Slideshow should be set to "Slow" (for 30 second intervals just like the DVD has).

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I presume that when using the SD Card into to display Evangelo's images, the Display Interval setting for the SD Card Slideshow should be set to "Slow" (for 30 second intervals just like the DVD has).

Correct and thanks Randy. I'll add that to the post.
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the settings you are going to post for the g20 . are they just for movei watching or every day hd tv programs ?? thanks
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D-Nice: Sorry this is off topic, but I want to be sure you see it. Your old Elite 1140 settings were fantastic! Please see this other thread for my call for help. Also sent you a PM. Thanks!

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D-Nice,

I see that you suggest to change the WB Method to 00 instead of 03. Can you expand on what this does exactly and if this is only for the S2?

This is the first I have seen that so I'm curious if this applies for the 12g panels as well? I own a 54V10 and I was recently entering offsets and mistakenly changed the WB method, I did correct it back to 03 but wasn't sure what effect this would have, if any.

Thanks
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Correct and thanks Randy. I'll add that to the post.

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Can you tell me if ther is any difference between G20 and G25 that would make me want to wait for one or the other. I know bout cam feature in G25 thats not avail on G20 but other than that are they same TV? I am thinking about buying the G25 tonight since the store only has that model and not G20?
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Randy:

do you plan on purchasing another Panasonic this year?
(a 2010 model)

and do you still fly RC airplanes?
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do you plan on purchasing another Panasonic this year?
(a 2010 model)

Nah. My 46G10 still looks great and so far my pattern is to buy a new Plasma every two years. I'm going to hold out for a 2011 TC-P46GT40


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D-Nice,

I see that you suggest to change the WB Method to 00 instead of 03. Can you expand on what this does exactly and if this is only for the S2?

It allows one to calibrate Cool/Normal/Warm color temperatures independent of each other.

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This is the first I have seen that so I'm curious if this applies for the 12g panels as well?

Yes.
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the settings you are going to post for the g20 . are they just for movei watching or every day hd tv programs ?? thanks

Why would HDTV and Movie settings be different
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i dont no thats why i asked . ??? your supposly the expert not me
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@D-Nice,
Thanks for posting this information.

Should I make these adjustments to my display after the 100 hour break-in, or do I use them right away.

My P50G25 arrived today! I've been running the break-in slides for a few hours.

Is there an issue with watching content that has short black bars on the top and bottom (via my VGA PC input) during this break-in period?

Thank you for your help.
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@D-Nice,
Thanks for posting this information.

Should I make these adjustments to my display after the 100 hour break-in, or do I use them right away.

My P50G25 arrived today! I've been running the break-in slides for a few hours.

Is there an issue with watching content that has short black bars on the top and bottom (via my VGA PC input) during this break-in period?

Thank you for your help.

If you are going to use my G20/25 settings, please follow post 1 to the T.
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If you are going to use my G20/25 settings, please follow post 1 to the T.

Just to be clear, you are recommending to not view anything else on the panel besides the break-in slides for the first 100 hours?

I have setup everything in accordance to your photo settings listed in post 1.
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