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post #1 of 13 Old 03-11-2010, 06:14 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi i'm about to sell my 42" Plasma.

I want to get a 50" Plasma. I was looking at the Samsung. it will be 75% PS3 Gaming and 25% Bluray. I was looking at the Sets and the 1080p Samsungs are out of my Budget but the 720p Are and i like the Design and PQ. I don't care about Black levels or if the Gamma is correct or whatever. I just want a Big HDTV. (having only 32-42" tvs before)

The Model is: Samsung PN50C430
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PN50C4...cmu_pg__header

Just wondering, would you guys go for the upgrade to 50" from 42"

*is it true under 50" sitting 8ft away i won't notice 1080p and 720p?*
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*is it true under 50" sitting 8ft away i won't notice 1080p and 720p?*

No, I don't agree. IMO, keep your TV until you can afford a better, 1080p display.
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No, I don't agree. IMO, keep your TV until you can afford a better, 1080p display.

+1. Also, keep in mind that the 720p models are entry-level or lower-end models that have fewer features, lower contrast ratios, and other shortcomings that the more expensive 1080p models might not. 720p in itself may not be a huge downgrade but the overall PQ likely will be.
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I'm going to disagree with the other posters. I would go with the 720p set and save some cash. The majority of the TV people/experts/etc are correct IMO in saying that typically people cannot distinguish the difference between a 720p signal and a 1080p signal. Keep in mind that this is in terms of resolution and detail.... There are those who think there is a difference between 720p and 1080p sets, but the difference has more to do with black level improvements and processing improvements on the 1080p sets over the 720p sets rather than the actual difference in resolution.

I thought that I was able to tell between 1080p / 720p as my friends and my 1080p LCD sets looked noticeably sharper than a family members 720p Panaonic X1. This may be due to the fact that LCDs are generally a touch sharper, and that the x1 has a bit of a softer type plasma image. However, I just got a new 42c450 plasma - 720p - and to my eye it is equally as sharp as the 1080p LCD (thats a bigger screen even) in the family room (550 samsung). Bottom line is that there are much more factors that go into 720p vs. 1080p sets that affect PQ (brand, black level, processing, etc) than pure resolution/ # of pixels.
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Hey James thats the Set i'm looking to get. Like i said i dont expect Kuro performance.

Also i dont have time for that, as i'm in college and working. i just want something to play on thats a Plasma, flat, cheap and looks good.
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I don't care about Black levels or if the Gamma is correct or whatever. I just want a Big HDTV. (having only 32-42" tvs before)

The OP doesn't care about black level, gamma, or whatever. Blu-ray, the true 1080p content, is going to be the least used thing on the tv. (according to the OP's statements) Why save up and spend more for features he doesn't care about?

I have two "720p" Samsung plasmas. Great budget plasmas, IMO. I don't regret the purchases. I'm sure the higher models have better PQ. Just a matter if you're willing to pay for it.
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.. what's your budget; if dark level, gamma, etc. are not of great concern, then possibly purchasing a quality 'current' model that's 50" (1080p) could out-weigh a comparable newer model "C" model.
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.. what's your budget; if dark level, gamma, etc. are not of great concern, then possibly purchasing a quality 'current' model that's 50" (1080p) could out-weigh a comparable newer model "C" model.

If you want big, why not go DLP? You can get 1080p sets for next to nothing that are HUGE!!
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If you want big, why not go DLP? You can get 1080p sets for next to nothing that are HUGE!!

.. yes, could go huge then. Had two in past, last one ~7 yrs ago & although they've probably gotten better, believe you have to sit in that proverbial 'sweet spot' to see anything close to a plasma (big stretch). also, in the OP's situation, he/she probably doesn't want a huge paper-weight of a TV consuming his pad.
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The OP said he's into 75% gaming. Which will be huge on 3-D displays. Going large with an inexpensive 3-D DLP should be a consideration.
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^^ .. not learned with current DLP's; my last one, when watching 'the Market' ~8hrs a week-day, created a nasty rolling ticker, faint pink lookin', 'burn-in' that wasn't nice, especially when watching other material. A warning, was printed in the manual, but my naive self never read.
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The DLP idea seems like a winner, here. If that's out of the question, though, I would also lean towards the bigger 720p plasma. I was about two breaths short of picking up the PN50B450, but I had an emergency come up and spent the money elsewhere. The only place that you will see a real world difference is with true Blu-Ray material.

I would be curious as to how many people here have actually purchased this tv and then regretted not getting the 1080p. I'll bet it's close to zero.
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I just picked up a budget 720p 50in Samsung PN50C450 and am very happy. I also have a 1080P 42in LCD in the bedroom and think the 720p Plasma is much better in all picture quality aspects. Blu-Ray looks wonderful and for watching HD cable as well. I know people will tell you that the 1080p set is better in every aspect, but take a look at the 720p models and if you are happy with the picture I see no reason to spend the extra Cash. Even when I went from 720p to 1080p on my projector displaying on a 100 inch screen, HD cable looked basically the same. True 1080p signals did have increased depth to the picture, but this is on a much larger screen that a 50in set.
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