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PK550 and (apparently) the PK950 can compete with post-rise VT blacks.

That's true. Those are around .013 fL, right? Still, the AR filters on those suck. Way too gray and reflective.
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Yup! Breaking-in my 54" as we speak. I'm told Best Buy Magnolia can order them and some (allegedly) have them on display.

Congrats - i think you're the first person on AVS to report getting a VT25

There's a guy on HighDefForum who just got his 54VT25 from a Best Buy somewhere in Southern California (and a few posted pics of it).

What city/state are you located in? And where was your unit built (it's on the sticker on the rear panel)?

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That's true. Those are around .013 fL, right? Still, the AR filters on those suck. Way too gray and reflective.

0.013 or maybe even less. 950 is supposed to have a proper AR filter on it, so it could be a contender in the 2D market.
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Yup! Breaking-in my 54" as we speak. I'm told Best Buy Magnolia can order them and some (allegedly) have them on display.

And a second-update - the buzzing, in a completely quiet room is audible. It doesn't bother me, but those sensitive to it might want to think about it.

To put it in perspective, my Radio Shack SPL level rates it at below 50 decibels right next to the TV. And it may be even lower, but that's as low as mine goes.

Is it made in Mexico or in Japan?


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Congrats - i think you're the first person on AVS to report getting a VT25

There's a guy on HighDefForum who just got his 54VT25 from a Best Buy somewhere in Southern California (and a few posted pics of it).

What city/state are you located in? And where was your unit built (it's on the sticker on the rear panel)?

Thanks! Now that it's working, I'm very excited. Although I know I'll be unable to not watch for 5 days straight just to break it in. I'm going to have to cheat. Ha.

Modesto, CA. I'm not home, but I'll update the location on where it was built when I get home.
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The 54vt25 and 50vt25 ate now orderable on that Panasonic EPP site. Nice prices too, had I known I'd definitely waited 4 more months. Anyone wanna buy a 2 month old 65V10?
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The 54vt25 and 50vt25 ate now orderable on that Panasonic EPP site. Nice prices too, had I known I'd definitely waited 4 more months. Anyone wanna buy a 2 month old 65V10?

And what are the prices for the 54 and 50 at the Panasonic EPP site?


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The 54vt25 and 50vt25 ate now orderable on that Panasonic EPP site. Nice prices too, had I known I'd definitely waited 4 more months. Anyone wanna buy a 2 month old 65V10?

not orderable yet though listed.

how much is the 2-month-old 65v10 ;-) ?
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Congrats - i think you're the first person on AVS to report getting a VT25

There's a guy on HighDefForum who just got his 54VT25 from a Best Buy somewhere in Southern California (and a few posted pics of it).

What city/state are you located in? And where was your unit built (it's on the sticker on the rear panel)?

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Is it made in Mexico or in Japan?


It's made in Mexico with a March 2010 manufacturing date.

On another note, I've checked the software update feature. Mine comes with version 1.0.70 with the "latest version" stated as "1.0.60." The TV says it can update, but it doesn't make sense for me to downgrade. Am I reading this correctly? Pic included.
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I don't like the color of the tv I like black

I wish you good luck and look forward to your reports
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Sorry for the dumb question but can we make use of the PS3 - once updated with 3D firmware (in June i guess?) - to play 3D bluray on the Panny VT25?
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Sorry for the dumb question but can we make use of the PS3 - once updated with 3D firmware (in June i guess?) - to play 3D bluray on the Panny VT25?

As far as I know at first a 3D firmware for games will released - for 3D movies: in the second half of this year.

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As far as I know at first a 3D firmware for games will released - for 3D movies: in the second half of this year.

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I know that. In fact the 3D firmware for games has been released 4/21 i think.

What im trying to understand is that the PS3 when updated to play 3D movies can work with other TV's, eg. Panny 3D, Sammy 3D, not just Sony's.

Is this correct? If so then I can save a bunch not buying the 3D bluray player from Panasonic.
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I don't like the color of the tv I like black

I wish you good luck and look forward to your reports

Ah, I think the bad iPhone picture throws it off. Although you can tell a Slight Bronze tint, it looks almost black otherwise. Trust me, just looking at it, you'd be hard pressed to tell it's "bronze."
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Trust me, just looking at it, you'd be hard pressed to tell it's "bronze."

Agreed. Light has to hit the bezel at a certain angle to truly see the bronze tint.
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Ok I will take your word for it.

I may have interest on the 58 inch model depending on the $ however I really am leaning to the 65 V 10 series as I have found a really great price on it
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I know that. In fact the 3D firmware for games has been released 4/21 i think.

What im trying to understand is that the PS3 when updated to play 3D movies can work with other TV's, eg. Panny 3D, Sammy 3D, not just Sony's.

Is this correct? If so then I can save a bunch not buying the 3D bluray player from Panasonic.

ya i really hope that is the case ... remember reading something about CES where a sony rep stated the ps3 3d will only work with sony tvs , though i think it is bs
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There's a guy on HighDefForum who just got his 54VT25 from a Best Buy somewhere in Southern California (and a few posted pics of it).

Just seen the pics! Although a bit blurry i think I like this new VT series

I'm waiting for the 46" G20 but i'm thinking on switching to a VT 20 instead.

Not sure about the color though.
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The TC-P46G25 are out. The VT will be in 50, 54, 58, and 65 only.

The V only 42" and 50" ? I don't need the 3D so i'm not thrilled to pay the extra money for functionalities i prob. not even gonna use :P

Maybe i should pick up a V50 instead of a 46" G20

BTW i\\m living in Europe (Holland)
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Sorry if this has been asked and answered but what is the difference between the vt20 and vt25 series?
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ya i really hope that is the case ... remember reading something about CES where a sony rep stated the ps3 3d will only work with sony tvs , though i think it is bs

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SONY would lose out on too many game sales not to mention how many different types od bd movies of the same title would there be????
Avatar 3d movie that only works on sony tv`s,then come out with avarar 3d that works only on panasonics that would be such a cluster*&^%.
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From the way things are looking the VT20 was an early release to "get the word out" on Panasonic 3D tvs. ( As Samsung 3D units where in full flow in the marketplace. ) These where made in Japan. Watch as they soon become discontinued.....
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so 50" to 58" $800 increase, 58" to 65" $ 900 increase


The first sets will arrive the week of May 3 and include the TC-P50VT25 (50-inch class, SRP $2,599.95) and TC-P54VT25 (54-inch class, SRP $2,999.95).

Wave two will arrive sometime in June (probably the first half) and increase the screen size with the TC-P58VT25 (58-inch class, SRP $3,399.95) and the monstrous TC-P65VT25 (65-inch class, SRP $4,299.95).

The currently available VIERA VT20 model is exclusive to Best Buy and has been selling out regularly. The new VT25 series will not be exclusive to any store.

Each VIERA VT25 television includes one pair of Panasonic 3D Active Shutter Eyewear (TY-EW3D10U).
Additional pairs will set you back $149.95 SRP and are currently available for that exact price at Best Buy.
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so 50" to 58" $800 increase, 58" to 65" $ 900 increase


The first sets will arrive the week of May 3 and include the TC-P50VT25 (50-inch class, SRP $2,599.95) and TC-P54VT25 (54-inch class, SRP $2,999.95).

Wave two will arrive sometime in June (probably the first half) and increase the screen size with the TC-P58VT25 (58-inch class, SRP $3,399.95) and the monstrous TC-P65VT25 (65-inch class, SRP $4,299.95).

The currently available VIERA VT20 model is exclusive to Best Buy and has been selling out regularly. The new VT25 series will not be exclusive to any store.

Each VIERA VT25 television includes one pair of Panasonic 3D Active Shutter Eyewear (TY-EW3D10U).
Additional pairs will set you back $149.95 SRP and are currently available for that exact price at Best Buy.

Dont mean to doubt you but what is your source of this info?
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Dont mean to doubt you but what is your source of this info?

I think he got this from a link someone posted today on one of the other panasonic threads. I will try to find it for you.

Beat me to it. See below post.
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Dont mean to doubt you but what is your source of this info?

Panasonic's Press Release:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-91927454.html

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Thanks all for the info/link.
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Just got back from Best Buy and saw the tc-p54vt25. Very good black levels. This is the closest to the Kuros I ever seen in Panasonic in terms of black levels. Also it was a little brighter then the Kuros since it is using 5 lumens tech (NEO-PDP). It was sitting right next to a Sammy pn58b860. The black bars on the Panny is still darker. The real test is to compare the vt25 to a c8000. But I still think the Panny will beat the Sammy in terms of black levels. I just hope the black levels would stay the same overtime.
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Just got back from Best Buy and saw the tc-p54vt25. Very good black levels. This is the closest to the Kuros I ever seen in Panasonic in terms of black levels. Also it was a little brighter then the Kuros since it is using 5 lumens tech (NEO-PDP). It was sitting right next to a Sammy pn58b860. The black bars on the Panny is still darker. The real test is to compare the vt25 to a c8000. But I still think the Panny will beat the Sammy in terms of black levels. I just hope the black levels would stay the same overtime.

I feel like a bad first owner. =o) First, I have very little experience with the Kuros, so I'd be a horrible judge to compare the two. My own experience is with the Sharp 37" LCD from a few years ago. And this Vt25 blows that out of the water, of course. Very inky blacks from top to bottom, left to right. None of that blacklight glow that is characteristic of my old LCD. Very sharp with wonderful colors.

Reflections are comparable, but there's a lot more screen real estate to deal with, and I have a ton of windows in my TV room. At night, it's simply a mesmerizing picture. Hell, even the Best Buy employees were jealous to see this beauty leave the store.

It's unfortunate that the black levels will rise, but I'm confident that they will be far better than my old LCD nonetheless. And ultimately, that's what matters to me - am I seeing an improvement over my previous TV. Of course!
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