Originally Posted by carlson275
Sorry I dont have time to read everyone post ... but im interested in this tv compared to the VT25 which is out of my pay-scale right now. The pricing and BB deal drew me into this tv , but more i read about features, the more i like it...
hoping someone could clearify few of my remaining q's / doubts? Would really be grateful.
1. Does it stop at 60hz refresh rate like the c7000 or does it do 96hz?
2. Can it properly handle 24p unlike the C7000?
3. Samsung claimed this would have far deeper blacks than the c7000 - this true...how is it compared to vt25 / is it still worth the price drop?
4. Has the buzz issue been fixed .... i.e. blacks on panny seem debatable, rather deal with slight hum than to see my PQ diminish (unless a full diminsh still looks better than this tv, but i doubt it).
5. How is the ghosting or motion blurr compared to the C7000 (which got negged for)?
6. 3D - prior to this TV panasonic had the acclaimed best 3d PQ -- does it still have it or is there at least a tie?
Id be grateful to have any/all these questions answered..... as id like to buy this tv THIS weekend if im persuaded. Im really interested but on the fence as i was on panasonics farm.
Ok, to the best of my ability here goes:
1. the 8000 has Cinema Smooth. I believe that is 96hz (or maybe 72?) It can be turned on in the 7000 with a service menu adjustment. Note Bene: Cinema Smooth is only an option on Blu-Ray Discs. As far as I have been able to determine, all regular DVDs play back at 60 hz. I have tried to get the BDC6900 player to output 24p for regular dvds with no luck.
2. The problem with the 7000 as I understand it is the inability to turn off the Motion Judder Cancel. The same service menu adjustment that turns on the CS option allows you to turn off the MJC. As noted above, CS does allow proper playback of 24p material.
3. The VT25 unquestionably has deeper blacks. Will they rise over time? The consensus (and info from Panny) is yes. How much? Well, who knows. The rise will supposedly be more gradual in the VT25. As compared to the 7000, the 8000 may have deeper blacks because of the better filter it has. I think I saw someone post the relative black levels, but I don't recall the exact numbers. I will say this. I was really going to buy the Panny just for the deeper blacks. However, I was unable to get the VT25 through my source, and opted for the 8000. I don't regret it at all. The blacks are just fine. Remember, it is one thing to view a set next to others, it is entirely different to watch it by itself in isolation.
4. The buzz issue, as it has been reported on this forum has not been "fixed". My set does not buzz. I believe those who say their sets do buzz. My set has the hum from the power supply, which I can hear if I place my head behind the set. I don't think all sets buzz. I happen to have extremely sensitive hearing, and was very worried about this issue as well. Fortunately, 67 hours in, my set is dead quiet. If thousands of these sets were being returned, Samsung would sit up and take notice, so I tend to think it is isolated batches that have problems. Just my theory.
5. This goes to the MJC as discussed above. Turning it off improves the picture.
6. This is a more difficult question, as I have personally been unable to see the same demo material on both sets. I have been very happy with the 3D on my set with the limited 3D material I have. That being said, the 3D demo I saw on the VT25 was outstanding. The scenes from Rome were amazing, and it seems like the fountain in right in front of you. The depth field in the scene with the banners/lamps is amazing. If I could get my hands on the Panny demo disc I could tell you how it looks on the Samsung, but alas...I will say the Samsung demo, with the Black Eyed Peas, the confetti looks like it is right in front of you, I mean I want to reach out and touch it! Which is better...who knows right now.
These are just my opinions, but I hope they help.