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Can't believe the webcast has been done and no one has made a thread for the new Samsung series. Very impressed with the appearance of the new sets, only wished they gave some more detailed specs. If anyone finds some real data please paste it here.
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This year's plasma lines also offer full Energy Star compliance and have been redesigned to offer an additional inch of viewable screen size by reducing the bezel width while keeping the outside perimeter measurements the same. Samsung calls the advancement its "Plus One Strategy."
So, in 2011, a 63-inch set last year becomes a 64-inch screen size model, a 58-inch set becomes a 59-inch model, a 50-inch set becomes a 51-inch model and a 42-inch set becomes a 43-inch model.
The PND8000 series will be the flagship of 3D plasma line, offering the 64-, 59- and 51-inch screen sizes. All feature 1080p resolution Advanced SmartTV package and new touch-control TV remote. Other features include an ultra-slim 1.5-inch panel depth and enhanced cosmetics.
The D6500 series includes the 51- and 59-inch screen sizes, both with 1.5-inch ultra-slim panel depth, 1080p 3D capability and advanced Smart TV connectivity package.

So it appears the top of the line d8000 is the only way to get a 64" set? I hope that's a mistake...
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This year's plasma lines also offer full Energy Star compliance and have been redesigned to offer an additional inch of viewable screen size by reducing the bezel width while keeping the outside perimeter measurements the same. Samsung calls the advancement its "Plus One Strategy."
So, in 2011, a 63-inch set last year becomes a 64-inch screen size model, a 58-inch set becomes a 59-inch model, a 50-inch set becomes a 51-inch model and a 42-inch set becomes a 43-inch model.
The PND8000 series will be the flagship of 3D plasma line, offering the 64-, 59- and 51-inch screen sizes. All feature 1080p resolution Advanced SmartTV package and new touch-control TV remote. Other features include an ultra-slim 1.5-inch panel depth and enhanced cosmetics.
The D6500 series includes the 51- and 59-inch screen sizes, both with 1.5-inch ultra-slim panel depth, 1080p 3D capability and advanced Smart TV connectivity package.

So it appears the top of the line d8000 is the only way to get a 64" set? I hope that's a mistake...

I hope that is a mistake, if its not they may cost themselves a sale and I'll be forced to sit out another year.

I've gotta have a 58 to 60...
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Horrible looking stand.
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I hope that is a mistake, if its not they may cost themselves a sale and I'll be forced to sit out another year.

I've gotta have a 58 to 60...

Isn't 59" exactly in the middle of those 2 sizes you mention? (And the D6500 has as top the 59" model)

I'm curious why the added another 1" to the sizes, must be some 'magic' they can do with cutting the panels more efficiently or for the abbility to brag 'mine is one 1" bigger than yours..'
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Horrible looking stand.

agreed... not liking the spider legs and definitely passing on the stainless steel like bezel. doesn't samsung realize that for a good presentation, the bezel should not be flashy but rather muted, unobtrusive and blended into background or the top and bottom black bars in a movie so that we the viewers can just focus on the picture???

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...ag=mncol%3btxt
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agreed... not liking the spider legs and definitely passing on the stainless steel like bezel. doesn't samsung realize that for a good presentation, the bezel should not be flashy but rather muted, unobtrusive and blended into background or the top and bottom black bars in a movie so that we the viewers can just focus on the picture???

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...ag=mncol%3btxt

your are right... there is no logic in what they have done!

oh well.... paint it black when the warranty expires.
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Hi All,

I have been looking forward for someone to bring out a Plasma with a very minimal bezel with Plasmas as LG & Samsung have done with some of their LCDs- they really look aesthetically stunning imo. I am rather disappointed that the 2011 Samsung Plasma's do not get the same 0.2" bezel as some of their new LCD's - I was really hoping we would see "Borderless" type bezels on Plasma's this year. I can only put it down to engineering constraints but if that is not the case, why would Samsung/LG not employ the same with regards to minimal bezel on Plasma's as they do with some of their LCD's? The D8000/D7000 bezels do not look "Minimal/Borderless" to me at all & pretty much the same as last year!

I appreciate that this type of thing may not interest some in the least & is a non-issue but for me, design aspects are quite important & I personally feel that it is actually a more pleasing viewing experience due to less "physical distraction" outside of the picture.

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agreed... not liking the spider legs and definitely passing on the stainless steel like bezel. doesn't samsung realize that for a good presentation, the bezel should not be flashy but rather muted, unobtrusive and blended into background or the top and bottom black bars in a movie so that we the viewers can just focus on the picture???

http://ces.cnet.com/8301-32254_1-200...ag=mncol%3btxt

Surprising considering I think most of their panels look good. Maybe the old designer left, lol.
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Isn't 59" exactly in the middle of those 2 sizes you mention? (And the D6500 has as top the 59" model)

I'm curious why the added another 1" to the sizes, must be some 'magic' they can do with cutting the panels more efficiently or for the abbility to brag 'mine is one 1" bigger than yours..'

If the D6500 has inferior black levels and processing compared with the 8000 why would I upgrade from my KURO?
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If the D6500 has inferior black levels and processing compared with the 8000 why would I upgrade from my KURO?

they will use the same panel but a different filter. so in a dark room they should be about the same black level.
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So what are the differences between the ...

-d6500
-d7000
-d8000

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by nusynot January 6, 2011 7:41 AM PST
D-Katz should have asked the Samsung engineers regarding the new plasmas...

1) Does it buzz?

2) Did you solve the image retention issue?
3) Does it "blink"?
4) Did you solve the 3D active glasses out of sync issue?
5) Did you solve the line bleeding issue?
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1. They say it does not.
2, 3. Didn't ask.
4. Didn't ask, but their use of IR/Bluetooth is likely to solve this.
5. Huh?
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Is the 8000 again the only one with the Real Black Filter? Don't know if it's worth it to wait several months and pay more for a new 8000, when the 2010 version is so good. Now if I can get a new 6500 w/RBF for the same as the 8000's are going for now and I get a smaller bezel it may be worth the wait. Also what is with the sudden price increases on the current 8000?? Amazon went down to 2068 on the 58's for a few days, then they shot back up to 2299 and are sitting there. Seems like to get a deal, you have to buy from one of the sketchy online places. Oh well, can't seem to get out of the holding pattern.
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2011 model 7000 and 8000 have the darker filter. 6500 has a lighter one. 6500, 7000, and 8000 all use the same panel however so black level performance will be the same with the lights off.
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So should I wait for D6500 or go ahead and get C6500 at a good price? The C version has good reviews, so other than one more inch of screen, are the features and pic quality much better and worth the wait for the D model?
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So should I wait for D6500 or go ahead and get C6500 at a good price? The C version has good reviews, so other than one more inch of screen, are the features and pic quality much better and worth the wait for the D model?

wait....... you will thank me you did.
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Does anyone know when the PN64D8000 will be available? I was going to get the PN63C8000 but think I will wait on the new set.
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I really like this D8000. i wonder how much cheaper it will be then the others.
i do like the metal color of the bezel. the legs look ok but i rather have a stand
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If the D6500 has inferior black levels and processing compared with the 8000 why would I upgrade from my KURO?

they will use the same panel but a different filter. so in a dark room they should be about the same black level.

I think you misunderstood the very original post about D8000 and 64" It meant if you wanted 64" you had to go with the 8000, ie you can't get 64" in the 6500 line. The 8000 will be available in the smaller sizes too.

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Samsung when making those silver bezel sets should allow the consumer to purchase the set either black or silver (hell let the consumer also pick which stand too cause those chicken feet stands are ugly).
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... isn't all this pointless?

Since nobody has been able to test the TV, compare them to other brands, find the prices, buzzing solved or not, etc. what is the point of this thread?

I am interested in the 2011 Samsungs as well but do not have the delusion to discuss something that nobody knows anything about yet pretend they know something. Just read some of the replies.

Exercise in futility? Delusions of grandeur comes to mind, too.
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Does anyone know when the PN64D8000 will be available? I was going to get the PN63C8000 but think I will wait on the new set.

I too was thinking of getting the d8000, but it really is hard to beat the current prices on the c series. Rather than wait 6 months for what will most likely be a slightly better set, today I bought the 63c8000 with blu-ray and 3d kit for $2429. Sell off the extra's and its practically priced the same as the c550. I really don't feel like waiting 1 year for the d series to become priced competitive for me.
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Hello,
I have just bought the brande new LCD UE40D6500 (France) and messed up with the hdmi calibration while trying to find a way to activate the IR module for the 3D glasses (2011 model only work with serie 3 bluetooth glasses SSG 3... and not with IR glasses like SSG 2...).
I have found out that all the calibration pattern are already in the service menu. You just need to go to SVC/Test Pattern / HDI W/B Pattern : ON / HDMI Pattern set : 7. For my TV, the square in the upper left corner needed to be white.
Also found the menu to activate the IR module to use my SSG 2100 glasses :
SVC / IR_ON_OFF : ON.

If it can help.
Bye.
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I have a question that Samsung support was unable to answer for me. On my PN64D8000 when we are watching the DVR or blue ray after about 10 minutes the Samsung screen saver activates and we have the black screen with the blue Samsung oval bouncing around. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm pretty sure it's a setting somewhere even though Samsung said the set needs serviced. The burn in settings are currently turned to "off" Is there another place in the menuing systems that I'm missing? Maybe the set really is wonky... I dunno.

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Your set is defective. It acts the same way as if you pause the DVR. Check your HDMI cable connection between the TV and DVR to make sure there is no problem there. There is no setting to controll such behavior in TV.
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I failed to mention this does not happen when we are watching TV though. The TV and the DVR are on the same HDMI port as well.There are no issues when watching netflix either.
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Well the screen saver did not pop up during last nights viewing of Tron.
Today at some point this will be tested on the DVR.

And, in case anyone is interested the TV runs a 2.6 red hat linux kernel.
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I have a question that Samsung support was unable to answer for me. On my PN64D8000 when we are watching the DVR or blue ray after about 10 minutes the Samsung screen saver activates and we have the black screen with the blue Samsung oval bouncing around. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm pretty sure it's a setting somewhere even though Samsung said the set needs serviced. The burn in settings are currently turned to "off" Is there another place in the menuing systems that I'm missing? Maybe the set really is wonky... I dunno.

Thanks

For me this happens when I have something started on SMART TV (video streaming or web page) and not exit SMART TV just change the source (TV-Blue-ray)
If I always exit the SMART TV this screen saver doesn't occur.
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I saw the D8000 in a store, the images were brilliant and realistic, I liked it very much. Does anyone know how is it with videogames?
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