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post #181 of 3464 Old 01-16-2011, 10:51 PM
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The msrp on the pn63c8000 in 3800.00 which is still better than their flagship LED set. If I can get 20% off at the time of release I will purchase the set. I was able to negotiate this deal with my SXRD set and was one of the first to own the set.

Also, from what I read the new glasses will be available for the plasma and LED sets. Am I wrong here?

You think 20% on a new release is realistic? Looking at Nextag's price history for the C8000 it was mid to late Summer before prices were down 20% from MSRP. I am also waiting in the wings regarding the 2011 models ... but I am a bit pessimistic as to how long I'll have to wait for the price to be discounted at all.
On another topic how is the SXRD holding up? Had a 60" myself, but it suffered from the dreaded OB issue.
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one feature not getting a lot of hype is that the new 8000 series plasmas (and 8000 LED LCD models too) will be able to connect to your subscribed cable channels and services without a cable box if you're a Time Warner Cable , Comcast Xfinity or a Verizon FIOS customer...I think that's pretty cool
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^Indeed, nice touch.
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I find it very hard to find any information regarding the new plasma's. On the Samsung website all they can write about are aesthetics. No information on the technology itself or the improved stuff.

Does anyone know if the powerconsumption has improved on the 2011 sets?
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Will any of these TV sets come with RVU technology, which allows the TV to work with the new DirecTV server WITHOUT the need for a box? Or is that coming out in 2012?

Only the 6000 series LED TVs have been announced as having this feature. I find it pretty odd that the top-of-the-line display wouldn't have it.

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one feature not getting a lot of hype is that the new 8000 series plasmas (and 8000 LED LCD models too) will be able to connect to your subscribed cable channels and services without a cable box if you’re a Time Warner Cable , Comcast Xfinity or a Verizon FIOS customer...I think that's pretty cool

I thought all their "Smart TVs" could access this content? The press releases I saw didn't say it was exclusive to the 8000 series.

"All of the content can be consumed through Samsung's award-winning LED, LCD and Plasma smart TV line-up, which delivers a high-quality, visual enhanced and connected entertainment experience to the home."

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/s...nd-comcast-on/
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Zogy: When I bought my SXRD I went into PC Richards and was given a 20% discount off the price (pre-order) but I did take the 399.99 5 yr. warranty. I don't know if that deal will be there. However, there are a slew of new 3d tv's hitting the market so I believe that prices will have to be very competitive. I'm thinking the 64" Samsung 8000 set will MSRP for 3800.00. The real question is will the new sets come with a bundle/starter kit. The new Samsung sets will have new glasses so the only way to get more will be paying full price. There are plenty of sellers on Ebay selling current glasses at heavy discounts. I could have bought a 63" Samsung 3d 8000 series for 2850 with the bundle which is a killer price. LG also has a great 60" plasma set for under 2k but they don't give you a starter package. I have a fat (older) ps3 but I've heard of some compatibilty issues so I would like to have a stand alone blueray 3d player. If prices are crazy and there isn't a bundle deal then I'll look for a 65" Panny VT25 3d from someone who is upgrading or a left over if that is possible. The current Samsungs have sync issues but they aren't that terrible so that set is also in my sights too if the new sets are way over priced.

The SXRD is holding up great. It still holds up well next to any of the sets that are out on the market now. It was a great technology but it couldn't be made in a 2" wide set and slim is what Americans want. I never mount my sets on the wall and need a cabinet for all my components so I don't have a problem with a thicker set. I never liked plasma because of the screen reflections, noise in the picture, burn in, fading of brightness and cost of operation. However, the noise seems to have been fixed, reflections are not as bad, burin in is a bit better and so is operating temps. All technologies have their issues.
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I too own an SXRD (60A3000). I am seeing some very slight signs of OB deterioration - particularly with blacks getting a blue tinge although it might be able to get improved with service menu grayscale adjustments. I will probably have my calibrator out to get it tuned up. On any rate, I am keeping a very close eye on the 64" Samsung plasma as a possible upgrade - really looking forward to the reputable ISF calibrator reports in several months. I'm not ruling out the 65" V30 Panasonic either, but several questions (rising and floating blacks) need to be answered for me on those before I consider one.

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Excuse my ignorance but what are rising and floating blacks. It sounds like the color black is goinb bad on your SXRD. I had it replaced under warranty the heat from the lamp does something.
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is this still part of the 2011 Sammy feature set? One of the differences from Panny.

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Excuse my ignorance but what are rising and floating blacks. It sounds like the color black is goinb bad on your SXRD. I had it replaced under warranty the heat from the lamp does something.

The blacks start getting this way after a while on my set, but usually can be improved for a while before they start rising again. It's a bit annoying and I'm tired of it.

Rising blacks is when the black level or baseline level on the set rises (gets worse) over time. Floating blacks is where the black varies or fluctuates on a scene, etc. The Panasonics have both of these issues right now.

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How is 2010 Samsung IR compared to a 2009 Panasonic IR? I have had no problems gaming on the Panasonic, is Samsung ok in this regard?
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How is 2010 Samsung IR compared to a 2009 Panasonic IR? I have had no problems gaming on the Panasonic, is Samsung ok in this regard?
Yes. There are no real issues with this anymore.
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Yes. There are no real issues with this anymore.
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is this still part of the 2011 Sammy feature set? One of the differences from Panny.
Led have it, Plasma should have it too.
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Yes. There are no real issues with this anymore.
Agreed, my 50c450 has less IR than what all my 2009 Pannies did after the blacks rose beyond a certain point.

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Thanks for the info. I did some research and apprently Samsung had this problem too but it was fixed with a firmware update. Let me see if I understand this; Floating black levels in a scene is detected by the black levels or gama changing quickly in a scene. Bright, dark, etc. Is this annoying and distracting? Does it degrade the picture and destroy detail in dark scenes? Is this reampant in all movies or justs shows its head once in a while?

Rising blacks are when the black level (contract ratio) of your set gets worse over time? How long did it take for you to notice a drop in the black levels of your set?

QUOTE=DavidHir;19844267]The blacks start getting this way after a while on my set, but usually can be improved for a while before they start rising again. It's a bit annoying and I'm tired of it.

Rising blacks is when the black level or baseline level on the set rises (gets worse) over time. Floating blacks is where the black varies or fluctuates on a scene, etc. The Panasonics have both of these issues right now.[/quote]
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I thought all their "Smart TVs" could access this content? The press releases I saw didn't say it was exclusive to the 8000 series.

"All of the content can be consumed through Samsung's award-winning LED, LCD and Plasma smart TV line-up, which delivers a high-quality, visual enhanced and connected entertainment experience to the home."

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/06/s...nd-comcast-on/
I read an article recently which stated that it would only be available on the 8000 series...could be wrong though...I would think they would want to limit it to only their highest end model series
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Thanks for the info. I did some research and apprently Samsung had this problem too but it was fixed with a firmware update. Let me see if I understand this; Floating black levels in a scene is detected by the black levels or gama changing quickly in a scene. Bright, dark, etc. Is this annoying and distracting? Does it degrade the picture and destroy detail in dark scenes? Is this reampant in all movies or justs shows its head once in a while?

Rising blacks are when the black level (contract ratio) of your set gets worse over time? How long did it take for you to notice a drop in the black levels of your set?

QUOTE=DavidHir;19844267]The blacks start getting this way after a while on my set, but usually can be improved for a while before they start rising again. It's a bit annoying and I'm tired of it.

Rising blacks is when the black level or baseline level on the set rises (gets worse) over time. Floating blacks is where the black varies or fluctuates on a scene, etc. The Panasonics have both of these issues right now.
Well, on my SXRD, the black levels haven't changed in terms of rising or falling; they just become bluish over time. My calibrator is able to alleviate this to a good degree, but SXRDs in general don't age as well as other technologies. As a result, a lot of color shifting happens fast on these displays. I start noticing it about every 6-9 months on my set after its calibrated.

The floating black issue on the Panasonic is not noticed by everyone; however, I have read some reports from people who are very annoyed by the issue. Some people will notice the issue in black bars on 2:35 aspect ratio material as well as in scenes.

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Is there any word on the 8000 series Cinema Smooth requiring a 1080p/24 signal like the 2010 models?

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what are the main differences between the D6500 series vs the D8000?...I like the look of the 6500 better with the black bezel
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any HD Ready plasma from Samsung this year?

Looks like all LG plasma line is 1080
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Subsequent to CES, has Samsung announced any release time periods for any of its plasmas, more specific than 'Spring'?

Because, based on the past, we should be seeing them start with their 400 series, and shortly after, the 500 series, starting in 'late Winter'; and then continue to work upwards.
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any HD Ready plasma from Samsung this year?

Looks like all LG plasma line is 1080

Huh? All Samsung plasmas are HD!
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Huh? All Samsung plasmas are HD!

Must've just jumped out of the DeLorean

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Huh? All Samsung plasmas are HD!

But are they True HD like the Sonys? That's the question.
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But are they True HD like the Sonys? That's the question.


I guess we non-Sony tv owners are just stuck watching fake HD.
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When will the MSRP's be announced? So annoying not having them. Amazes me how they couldnt do it at CES.
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But are they True HD like the Sonys? That's the question.

what BS is Sony feeding you ?..

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