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I should have known it would still be there. After the TV has been on about 10 hours today without problems, I just had the screen go black for about 4 seconds. Same problem as my C8000. It's definitely the TV, as I swapped around the HDMI cables and still had the problem. Just great.

I thought the burn-in pixel orb does this to protect your tv . if not my c8000 has this prob too
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Anyone else having trouble activating Netflix on this TV? I'm getting "Sorry, this device cannot be activated."

I was able to successfully activate 2 UND558000's without a hitch, I don't know why this one doesn't work

Yep. Still not fixed. On the Netflix end it sees I registered the tv successfully, but on the tv side it's an endless loop of new activation codes and error messages.
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I'm having issues trying to get Vudo to start. It says to contact customer service!
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i should have known it would still be there. After the tv has been on about 10 hours today without problems, i just had the screen go black for about 4 seconds. Same problem as my c8000. It's definitely the tv, as i swapped around the hdmi cables and still had the problem. Just great.

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I should have known it would still be there. After the TV has been on about 10 hours today without problems, I just had the screen go black for about 4 seconds. Same problem as my C8000. It's definitely the TV, as I swapped around the HDMI cables and still had the problem. Just great.

Eh? What problem is that? How often does it go black?
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Nice try. It's dumb to accept a set that is obviously damaged unless some allowance in the purchase price is made...period. I said exactly what I meant.

At the risk of being attacked by Peter myself, I must say that I'm here to get information and really get tired of seeing Peter's sprinkling of posts attacking folks. Peter, please, if you don't have input on aspects of a display, keep the personal insults to yourself or at least take it to PM.
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i attached the stand to the tv myself, and it was not a pleasant experience. the plate slides into a slot on the back of the tv before you screw it in place. the main problem is that the screen is really really heavy. there's a high chance of the plate getting bent while trying to screw it in standing up, or the screws not getting set in straight. i had to lay the screen face down on my bed and attach the stand hanging off the edge of the bed. still having unpleasant thoughts of my experience unboxing and setting up the tv solo...

Ahh... So I have that to look forward to as well I suppose. Any problems picking it up off the bed after attaching the base? I am just scared to lay it anywhere lol. It hurts to think about the weight of it cracking something . I may have some help but if not that seems like the best option. How did you flip it back upright? It is like a 100lb long/wide awkward to hold (by yourself) item that is both expensive and fragile. I am assuming it all worked out in the end?
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Ahh... So I have that to look forward to as well I suppose. Any problems picking it up off the bed after attaching the base? I am just scared to lay it anywhere lol. It hurts to think about the weight of it cracking something . I may have some help but if not that seems like the best option. How did you flip it back upright? It is like a 100lb long/wide awkward to hold (by yourself) item that is both expensive and fragile. I am assuming it all worked out in the end?

i think the best way to attach the stand is to lay the screen face down on something soft, as recommended by the manual. a bed is probably the only reasonable surface to do so, as a couch probably doesn't have enough space to lay it on. the main prob is that it is really heavy and long/wide...very awkward as you deduced. i ended up flipping it upright onto the bed, then held it backwards and walked it backwards toward my stand. got 2 of the legs onto the stand, moved to the front, and slid the other 2 legs onto the stand. i live in a studio apt, so the distance between my bed and tv stand isn't too far. it's doable by yourself, but highly recommended to have another person help out. good luck!
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At the risk of being attacked by Peter myself, I must say that I'm here to get information and really get tired of seeing Peter's sprinkling of posts attacking folks. Peter, please, if you don't have input on aspects of a display, keep the personal insults to yourself or at least take it to PM.

Unfortunately, the "information" that circulates in this forum is not infrequently inaccurate or solely based on opinions without biases clearly articulated. Good example: modern plasmas are no longer subject to IR and burn in. So if in my efforts to correct misinformation people feel personally attacked, so be it. Develop tougher skin or provide accurate information.
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I was ready to pull the trigger on the d8000 and I hear about burn in period, which I'm not to familiar with. This will be my first plasma, so I really need your thoughts or advice.
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I was ready to pull the trigger on the d8000 and I hear about burn in period, which I'm not to familiar with. This will be my first plasma, so I really need your thoughts or advice.

My thoughts? Buy it, set it up, plug it in, turn it on, love it
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I don't really understand the heated debate over breaking in a plasma. Some people say there is no point, but I disagree. At minimum, you are speeding up the hours on the set so you can calibrate it and enjoy it that much more. Nothing wrong with wanting the best possible picture sooner rather than later. As for it helping with IR down the road...who knows for sure? But if there is even a 1% chance that it will help, why not do it? It will cost a few extra dollars in electricity for the month, but you'll have peace of mind. So, break in your plasma for two reasons:

1. You can calibrate your set in a week or two instead of four plus weeks (ideally you want to be past 100-150 hours before you calibrate)

2. MAYBE it helps with IR/burn-in
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I don't really understand the heated debate over breaking in a plasma. Some people say there is no point, but I disagree. At minimum, you are speeding up the hours on the set so you can calibrate it and enjoy it that much more. Nothing wrong with wanting the best possible picture sooner rather than later. As for it helping with IR down the road...who knows for sure? But if there is even a 1% chance that it will help, why not do it? It will cost a few extra dollars in electricity for the month, but you'll have peace of mind. So, break in your plasma for two reasons:

1. You can calibrate your set in a week or two instead of four plus weeks (ideally you want to be past 100-150 hours before you calibrate)

2. MAYBE it helps with IR/burn-in

What's so difficult to understand? Some people make axiomatic claims that can not be empirically demonstrated or verified and others call them on it.
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I just pulled the trigger on 64D8000 from Cleveland Plasma! Can't wait to get it delivered!
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Nice try. It's dumb to accept a set that is obviously damaged unless some allowance in the purchase price is made...period. I said exactly what I meant.

Can you read? It wasn't delivered broke. Again if you ever see wisdom while you are out and about grab it with a meat hook and hold on forever.
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Can you read? It wasn't delivered broke. Again if you ever see wisdom while you are out and about grab it with a meat hook and hold on forever.

I think he meant that you should have not signed it if it was delivered broken. Unless you are sure that the retailer will definitely replace it. Sometimes the delivery insurance will be canceled if you sign that it was delivered in working order.
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Oops, I actually misread. I meant if they broke it broke it before you signed off.
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i think the best way to attach the stand is to lay the screen face down on something soft, as recommended by the manual. a bed is probably the only reasonable surface to do so, as a couch probably doesn't have enough space to lay it on. the main prob is that it is really heavy and long/wide...very awkward as you deduced. i ended up flipping it upright onto the bed, then held it backwards and walked it backwards toward my stand. got 2 of the legs onto the stand, moved to the front, and slid the other 2 legs onto the stand. i live in a studio apt, so the distance between my bed and tv stand isn't too far. it's doable by yourself, but highly recommended to have another person help out. good luck!

Last year the 63C8000 came with the stand attached. Much easier on the buyer. I wonder what made them not send it out attached?
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Oops, I actually misread. I meant if they broke it broke it before you signed off.

Exactly. Sometimes and for some people the simplest concepts become rocket science.
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Can you read? It wasn't delivered broke. Again if you ever see wisdom while you are out and about grab it with a meat hook and hold on forever.

Listen man. You saw the delivery guys damage your stand/set and still accepted it. That was a dumb move. Hopefully you won't have to realize how dumb it was if the retailer refuses to replace.
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Listen man. You saw the delivery guys damage your stand/set and still accepted it. That was a dumb move. Hopefully you won't have to realize how dumb it was if the retailer refuses to replace.

Again, can you read. I'l have a new set on April 9th. What do you get out of this? I'm through with you.
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Yep. Still not fixed. On the Netflix end it sees I registered the tv successfully, but on the tv side it's an endless loop of new activation codes and error messages.

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing. It's the same exact software as on the UNxxD8000 series, I don't see why this tv being a plasma would effect anything. Somewhere in this or the 2011 thread, someone said their netflix works just fine.

I called Netflix and they say there's no problem on their end, call Samsung. I called Samsung's Tier 1 support who are, I'm pretty sure, clinically diagnosed morons. Tier 2 support is supposed to call back in 2-3 days. What the crap is that!?

So frustrated. So far the "Smart TV" features have not been very smart.

Also what exactly does logging into a Smart TV home account or whatever get me? Other than logging itself out every 5 minutes, I cannot notice a bit of difference.
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Listen man. You saw the delivery guys damage your stand/set and still accepted it. That was a dumb move. Hopefully you won't have to realize how dumb it was if the retailer refuses to replace.

Peter, it is time to stop. You are just making yourself look worse and worse to the rest of us. I don't have any interest in the dispute you guys are having, but it certainly seems possible, and potentially helpful, to have a civil conversation about the appropriate way to respond to a minor breakage during delivery.
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Just ordered my 64d8000 from Chris at Cleveland Plasma. I'm super stoked!

I haven't seen any settings listed for this TV yet...or did I miss it?

One more questions...is it worth having someone come out and calibrate the tv?
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REAL newbie here!

I currently own an LN55C650 LCD which I "sort of" like. I have an opportunity to sell that TV and pick up a PN64D8000.

My dilemma is that I am not sure what I am gaining or losing by going from LCD to plasma. I know that plasma provides a more realistic picture, deeper blacks, etc., but what are the downsides to plasma, other than power usage and a requirement for darker watching environments (neither of which is an issue for me)?

I've heard about issues with buzzing, burn-in, decreasing black levels, pinkish hue developing on Sammy screens, etc. Are these realistic issues or simply faulty individual sets?

I apologize for the newbie questions and hope that I have posted in the proper forum!

Thanks.

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Somebody answer me please. Is the "Local Contrast Enhancer" on the 8000 series just marketing spin, or does it really offer a noticeable PQ improvement over the 7000? Otherwise I don't see why people don't save $$$ by getting the 7000.
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I'd guess you'd need to look at both sets and judge for yourself.

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^ Oh gee, thanks so much.
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REAL newbie here!

I currently own an LN55C650 LCD which I "sort of" like. I have an opportunity to sell that TV and pick up a PN64D8000.

My dilemma is that I am not sure what I am gaining or losing by going from LCD to plasma. I know that plasma provides a more realistic picture, deeper blacks, etc., but what are the downsides to plasma, other than power usage and a requirement for darker watching environments (neither of which is an issue for me)?

I've heard about issues with buzzing, burn-in, decreasing black levels, pinkish hue developing on Sammy screens, etc. Are these realistic issues or simply faulty individual sets?

I apologize for the newbie questions and hope that I have posted in the proper forum!

Thanks.

Roberta

You'd be hard pressed to find a better television than the 64D8000 based on the couple I've seen in stores. You *might* hear a slight buzzing but only when the sound is off or nearly off. The other concerns you mention are basically non-issues for 99% of all plasma owners, IMHO.
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