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I would think the problem comes from the source, since the signal seems to stop and then when it comes back, the TV reacts like you just turned it on. Might be a faulty HDMI cable, or a problem with your box, hard to tell!
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If You Want to Rerun Plug & Play...
MENU → System → Plug & Play → ENTER

In step 2, make sure you select Home Use. That should get rid of the banner.

Hope that helps!

The easiest way to reset the newer Samsung tv's (2009 and newer), is to hold the EXIT button on the remote for about 15 seconds. When the message pops up asking if you want to reset, select OK.
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How to check how many hours are on 43D450 ?
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I have a PN43e450. Does anyone know if I can do the cinema hack or change it to a diferrent model for more settings? If I try to change the model can something go wrong? I would also like to know how to view the time. I already tried searching google, but it seems like very few people have my tv
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hi all,

i have Samsung PS51D450 plasma screen , i leave it over night to run break-in slides for about 8 hours , but the problem is that this tv and i think samsung in general displays a black screen for about half a second between slides(the transition) , when i woke up and viewed channels from the satellite box through AV , i noticed a slightly transparent black screen flashing every 3 seconds , but after switching to usb and back again , it disappeared , could this be the problem of black screens between slides ?
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also i want to ask , what is the latest firmware for this ?
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Question about burn in, I bought a display model of the p51d450 so do I need to burn it in still since it has probably been on demo running for 12 hours a day for months?
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What's the difference between a 51D450 and a 51E450? Newer model, upgrade/downgrade?
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What's the difference between a 51D450 and a 51E450? Newer model, upgrade/downgrade?

Not sure about picture quality between the two, but the newer E series seems to be a downgrade.

Resolution went from 1366x768 -> 1024x768. 1 set of component input is removed, used to have 2 component inputs (1 shared w/composite). There's also a new stand, doesn't swivel, not sure if the old one swivels.
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I have a chance to trade a Panasonic 50px80u from 2008 with original packaging for a pn43d450 that is apparently only a couple months old but won't be transported in it's original box. I bought the panny in the hopes that it would replace a hitachi crt rear projection which has immensely deep blacks but i was extremely dissapointed in the black level, i can navigate through the room without bumping into anything by the light of a "black screen on the panny. Does anyone here have experience coming from a crt and moving to the pn450's does it work w'ell for games like splinter cell and thief.
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here so I have to start off by saying WOW you folks have been amazingly helpful with all the information provided. I started reading this thread from the beginning so that I don't miss anything. I am up to pg 50 now and I am strongly considering getting the PN51D450.

I noticed that alot of people have been using this set in the bedroom or as a gaming set primarily. My question is what are your opinions on using this as a main living room tv. I'll be sitting about 8-9 feet away and the seating is semi-circular with some persons being off to either side.

I do have 2 sets of large windows but lighting can be controlled using the curtains that are up. Primary viewing will be SD cable with the occasional blu-ray and streaming from an Apple TV(Netflix, iTunes movie rentals etc). My only gaming system is a Wii which get minor usage.

Again thanks much for all the helpful information thus far and hopefully I will be able to say soon that I am the proud owner of one of these sets.
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Hey all! New to the forums, but I have owned the PN43D490 for almost a year now. I didn't know too much about it until I started reading these forums. I have a few questions that I haven't come across the answers to in the forums yet. 1. What would be the best calibration for XBox 360 gaming? I don't think it would be the same as the recommended movie settings, I noticed everyone saying to turn the sharpness to 0. But on any game I play all the lettering looks blurry. 2. Should I be using the native 1024 x 768? If I do I can't use the default game settings. Should I use the 720p or 1080? There is a 1080 option which I found strange since the labels all said 720. Well thanks in advance!
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Hi everyone, this is my first post here so I have to start off by saying WOW you folks have been amazingly helpful with all the information provided. I started reading this thread from the beginning so that I don't miss anything. I am up to pg 50 now and I am strongly considering getting the PN51D450.

I noticed that alot of people have been using this set in the bedroom or as a gaming set primarily. My question is what are your opinions on using this as a main living room tv. I'll be sitting about 8-9 feet away and the seating is semi-circular with some persons being off to either side.

I do have 2 sets of large windows but lighting can be controlled using the curtains that are up. Primary viewing will be SD cable with the occasional blu-ray and streaming from an Apple TV(Netflix, iTunes movie rentals etc). My only gaming system is a Wii which get minor usage.

Again thanks much for all the helpful information thus far and hopefully I will be able to say soon that I am the proud owner of one of these sets.

I used it in my living room for 6 mos,8 ft away-excellent tv.

WAP 16.

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I used it in my living room for 6 mos,8 ft away-excellent tv.


Thanks for the headsup tripod.....
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Hey guys,

My friend moved in bearing a p51d450 (ps51d450?) in tow - it's an australian model, pal output. It's a great tv, I've had some very good experiences with it - until I attempted to hook a USB HDD up to it.

It seems to play media off of a USB thumb drive excellently - but when I try to play things off of a USB HDD it cannot see the drive.

The help guide seems to suggest that later models are capable of this feat, whereas the 450 is not. Is there some sort of hack that allows me to make this work? It seems absurd that a thumb drive would work but a USB HDD would not, from a pure hardware capabilities frame of mind.

Cheers,
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Sorry, it appears to be a PS43D350.

Not sure if that makes a big difference, it's probably to do with it being an aussie model.
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Sorry guys, new here but does anyone know how I can change the picture size for my Samsung PS43D490 43"? As in some of the channels dont show the full screen for example with channel 4 on sky tv the logo is on the left side and I cant see the left side. Also I tried using a hdmi cable but the set top box hasnt got the port. Doesnt it automatically sort of fit the whole of the screen inside the tv?

There is a "Screen fit" option but its in grey and it doesnt let me select it.

Help would be much appreciated guys smile.gif

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can someone please help me out...i have a PN51D450A2DXZA with the hdmi calibration(in the service menu) at failure ..how can i fix this i see alot of fixes on here with people using an xbox (which i don't have)..is there anyway i can manually fix this in the service menu settings? any help would be appreciated
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Not sure about picture quality between the two, but the newer E series seems to be a downgrade.


Resolution went from 1366x768 -> 1024x768. 1 set of component input is removed, used to have 2 component inputs (1 shared w/composite). There's also a new stand, doesn't swivel, not sure if the old one swivels.
Yes the 51E450/490 is a bit of a downgrade, as they have indeed lowered the resolution on the 51" versions. It was already 1024 on the 43". Not sure why they lowered the quality, but I guess because the profit margins shrunk on the 720p versions, as the new entry level 1080p versions are now in the $649-$799 range. But so glad we got the 51D490 last year for bonus room at my sister's house. DVDs, Bluray, and both OTA and cable look very nice on this TV. The E450 pic just doesn't look as sharp, and bezel doesn't swivel.
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can someone please help me out...i have a PN51D450A2DXZA with the hdmi calibration(in the service menu) at failure ..how can i fix this i see alot of fixes on here with people using an xbox (which i don't have)..is there anyway i can manually fix this in the service menu settings? any help would be appreciated

anyone?
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Hey guys, just joined to ask an opinion on a TV I'm thinking about buying. I was in Walmart today and noticed this TV on sale for a little under $400.

PN43E450 43 inch, 720 plasma samsung. Seen here: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/PN43E450A1FXZAand here http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PN43E450-43-Inch-Plasma-Black/dp/B0076LXHII

Now, I know it's not some powerhouse, and I had no intentions of buying a TV till I saw this one. But is it a good budget TV? I'd just like some general opinions. Most places I've checked have it for around $480, but Walmart has it on sale for like $395. Is this about the best TV I can get for that amount of money? Thanks.
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Updated firmware posted on the Samsung UK site for the PS51D450A2W...

Date: 15th June 2012
Version: T-MST4DEUC-1027.1 and T-MSV4DEUC-1009.1

http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/PS51D450A2WXXU-downloads
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anyone at least have screen shots of the pn51d450 service menu?
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Well, Stupid me went into the service menu and began to mess around with the settings and screwed up the HDMI Calibration. I would be extremely grateful if one of you guys would go into the service menu and tell me your settings under "ADC Result" It seems to have only changed those settings around and i can not get them back to there original state.
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Hey guys, just joined to ask an opinion on a TV I'm thinking about buying. I was in Walmart today and noticed this TV on sale for a little under $400.
PN43E450 43 inch, 720 plasma samsung. Seen here: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/tvs/PN43E450A1FXZAand here http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PN43E450-43-Inch-Plasma-Black/dp/B0076LXHII
Now, I know it's not some powerhouse, and I had no intentions of buying a TV till I saw this one. But is it a good budget TV? I'd just like some general opinions. Most places I've checked have it for around $480, but Walmart has it on sale for like $395. Is this about the best TV I can get for that amount of money? Thanks.


YES it's a Fantastic TV!

Amazing picture quality with dark blacks and good sound.
It's a shame the default picture Mode is 'Standard' as the
the picture is very dim and that will scare off buyers in the store.
Standard mode is so dim I thought somthing was wrong with the set!
Set picture Mode to 'Movie' and your good to go.
Sharpness looks too soft at 0 so I go with 5 to 7.
The so called Sharpness is really just a contrast control.

Keep the Cell Light at 20 and simply adjust the Brightness and Contrast.

This works for me.

In daytime = 50 to 55
In evening = 40 to 50
In the dark = 27 to 35
Contrast no lower than 88 even in the dark.

Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Contrast 97
Brightness 50 (average
Sharpness 5
Color 55
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 (0 adds too much Contrast
Dynamic Contrast - Low or Med
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Size - Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter - Off
HDMI Black Level - Low
Film Mode - Off

White Balance Calibration
Thanks to 'CTM Audi'.
RO - 21
GO - 28
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 27
BG - 23
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I am new to buying TVs, as I've always used my 27" Samsung LCD monitor with my PC.

I am considering buying a Samsung D450 (haven't decided between the 43 and 51" options yet) and have noticed that there are also E450s available. I can't seem to find any difference between the two, ironically, on the Samsung website, nor anywhere else on the internet that I've seen. If anyone can provide this information, I'd appreciate it, as it'd enable me to decide.

I specifically want a non-3D plasma, so the D490 series isn't an option. Is there anything I should know about the D450 series before I get the TV? I've always trusted Samsung as a brand, and have audio equipment from the company as well.

I will be using the screen as a second PC monitor, despite my knowing about image retention and screen burn-in. The response time is awesome for gaming, which I do regularly, and the numerous image quality aspects are awesome for movies, which, other than browsing the internet, will be the next main use of the plasma. I'm confident that the technology that has been implemented in the new plasmas will prevent the aforementioned potential problems and I'm not planning on doing anything stupid with it, like displaying a motionless image for numerous days. Having said that, there will be taskbars and HUDs displayed for a substantial amount of consecutive hours. I've seen recommendations to switch the screen off or play a movie at regular intervals so as to avoid the possibility of retaining any particular image. From what I've seen (owner reports) they fade away quite quickly (hours) and what appears to be permanent ones can be removed with features provided on the TV, like displaying a white image for a certain amount of time.
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Good grief wallmart just dropped the price to $549 for the Samsung PN51E450.
that's only $70 more than what I payed for my 43" E450

also the Panasonic TC-P50X5 is now $548 but with a 1" smaller screen I would go with the Samsung PN51E450
unless the PN51E530 price drops in the next few months.
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YES it's a Fantastic TV!

Amazing picture quality with dark blacks and good sound.
It's a shame the default picture Mode is 'Standard' as the
the picture is very dim and that will scare off buyers in the store.
Standard mode is so dim I thought somthing was wrong with the set!
Set picture Mode to 'Movie' and your good to go.
Sharpness looks too soft at 0 so I go with 5 to 7.
The so called Sharpness is really just a contrast control.
Keep the Cell Light at 20 and simply adjust the Brightness and Contrast.
This works for me.
In daytime = 50 to 55
In evening = 40 to 50
In the dark = 27 to 35
Contrast no lower than 88 even in the dark.
Mode - Movie
Cell Light 20
Contrast 97
Brightness 50 (average
Sharpness 5
Color 55
R/G Tint 50/50
Color Space - Native
Gamma -1 (0 adds too much Contrast
Dynamic Contrast - Low or Med
Black Tone - Darkest
Flesh Tone - 0
Color Tone - Warm1
Size - Screen Fit
Digital Noise Filter - Off
HDMI Black Level - Low
Film Mode - Off
White Balance Calibration
Thanks to 'CTM Audi'.
RO - 21
GO - 28
BO - 22
RG - 20
GG - 27
BG - 23

thanks man. I'll try all this. TV is great so far, but yes a little dark in normal mode.
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I don't understand how anyone can like 'Standard' mode.
Blacks turn to grey and whites turn dull, it's horrible.
I'm tempted to start a thread reg this.
I thought something was wrong with it at first.
I was like "what the hell my 10 yr old XBR had a much better picture".
And then I switched it to 'Movie' and I could relax and chill.

Now I have Sharpness at 0.
I'm now useing the Brightness all the time just like I did with
'Picture' on the many Sony TVs from the past.
Contrast is very cut and dry, bloomy bright at 100 and
not bloomy bright at 97 and lower.
I'll tell ya in a dark room crank Brightness down to 18 and it's just on the edge
of crushing blacks and it looks sick! I mean in a good way.
I bumped Color to 52 and Tint 49-51. These two are not easy to set
so I'll keep trying out different settings.

The main ones to keep and set for life in order of importance are:
Mode > Movie
Cell Light > 20
Sharpness > 0
Dynamic Contrast > off (unless your not going for Kuro looking blacks.
Color Tone > Warm1
Flesh Tone > 0
Color Tone > Warm1
Black Tone > off


All the rest are to be fiddled with forever. LOL........
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