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the d550 is the best bargain of alllllllllll tv's currently in production. It has the same black level and picture quality of the d8000 just has uglier cosmetics, no smart tv features and no AR (which might be a plus considering all the coatings peeling off) plus the clear shiny coating does improve color and contrast slightly in a dark room.

59 inch (basically a 60 inch class tv) for 1500-1600 with the same PQ as their top of the line series plasma. Just so much tv and quality fo such small price

I predict the d550 series tv will sell the highest quantity of sets compared to all other plasmas for 2011. Just hands down gives you the most for the money

I was wondering, the digital audio output of the pn59d550 what audio streams does it support outputting? Dolby digital 5.1, DTS 5.1? Any versions of 7.1? or only stereo?
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What happen to the good old days when you just plugged the power cord and watched tv.I am sorry but limiting the way you use your tv after you pay like 2grand or more is crazy imagine how u feel knowing You are about to buying top notch technology and then when u have the tv at home you have restrictions on the tv lolz
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Also seems like a good way to waste electricity and service life of the TV.

to each their own buds.

i intend to run the slides with medium to low contrast for the 1st 100 hours.

that's not much.. i just plug it in and turn it on. age all phosphors evenly.

it's been 100% proven than the set is more supceptable to burn in and more IR in the first 100 hours.

so aging each phosphor evenly with the slides essentially fixes this,

so you have a clean and even pallate when you set your settings and start to use the television.

but no ones forcing anyone to subscribe to this.. i made my choice from dozens of hours reading up on the subject. and i know an isf certified calibrator..

but if you just do whatever you want... that's fine.. it's your eyes and your set.

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better to be safe than sorry thats the way i see it
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What are the sequence of commands to access the Service Menu on the PN51D550? I did a search, but could not locate a definitive answer. Thank you!

Turn TV off then press:

Mute - 1 - 8 - 2 - Power

Then to exit the service menu power off and then power back on.

When I entered the service menu it reset all my settings so I had to recalibrate everything when I got out of the service menu.
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I was wondering, the digital audio output of the pn59d550 what audio streams does it support outputting? Dolby digital 5.1, DTS 5.1? Any versions of 7.1? or only stereo?

2.0 only. I have some movies that are in DTS only and all I get is static.

I asked that question here before I got the TV as well: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1336521
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Turn TV off then press:

Mute - 1 - 8 - 2 - Power

Then to exit the service menu power off and then power back on.

When I entered the service menu it reset all my settings so I had to recalibrate everything when I got out of the service menu.
Thanks much jahozafat for the sequence!
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Hey guys,

I've joined this forum to get as much information as possible for me to buy my plasma. So far it's been really helpful, but there's one more thing I'd like you to help me with.

Like some of you, I'm currently debating whether I should get the 59D6500 or 59D550. I know about the reflection issue on the D550 and the extra internet features of the D6500 and the price differences. These are things that don't really bother me considering the fact that the TV will be in a dark basement with one little window and I have a computer near by for my internet use. My only concern is about the picture quality comparison of these two TVs. I'm wondering if the blacks are the same and the colors are as vibrant on both devices. If any of you have an answer for me, it will be greatly appreciated as it's the only thing I'm waiting for before purchasing.
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^^^^
did u bother to read the thread?

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the d550 is the best bargain of alllllllllll tv's currently in production. It has the same black level and picture quality of the d8000 just has uglier cosmetics, no smart tv features and no AR (which might be a plus considering all the coatings peeling off) plus the clear shiny coating does improve color and contrast slightly in a dark room.

59 inch (basically a 60 inch class tv) for 1500-1600 with the same PQ as their top of the line series plasma. Just so much tv and quality fo such small price

I predict the d550 series tv will sell the highest quantity of sets compared to all other plasmas for 2011. Just hands down gives you the most for the money

I was wondering, the digital audio output of the pn59d550 what audio streams does it support outputting? Dolby digital 5.1, DTS 5.1? Any versions of 7.1? or only stereo?

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did u bother to read the thread?

Absolutely, I also went through most of the pages, I just wanted more than just one input to make sure everyone is on the same page. I've also read a post saying that the D550's black level is a little gray-ish. That's why I'm trying to get as many answers as possible.
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I want to buy some 3D Glasses for my PN51D550 but I'm not sure if to buy the $50 Samsung glasses or if there's better glasses from a different brand. Should I just buy the Samsung gasses?
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I want to buy some 3D Glasses for my PN51D550 but I'm not sure if to buy the $50 Samsung glasses or if there's better glasses from a different brand. Should I just buy the Samsung gasses?

Do you possibly qualify for the free 3D glasses that Samsung is offering?

Free 3D Glasses
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Absolutely, I also went through most of the pages, I just wanted more than just one input to make sure everyone is on the same page. I've also read a post saying that the D550's black level is a little gray-ish. That's why I'm trying to get as many answers as possible.

Blacks are garbage and glow like an LCD in a dark basement. Unacceptable and anyone telling you different is an apologist. At least as far as the 51d550 is concerned.
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the 59/64 inch versions are known to be almost twice as deep in black as the 51 inch version. It isn't kuro black performance but the 59/64 d series samsung have a .006 black level (samsung claimed it was a .004 black level this year but they are filthy liars) but .006 still isnt terrible. Samsung even beats the VT30 in almost all areas except black level for way less money.

And yes the d550 has the same panel, the same crystal hd processing, the same black level, the same everything PQ wise as the 6,7,8 series. The only things the 6,7,8 series offer are AR coating, filter that blocks light comming from above, internet features, wifi built in, better cosmetics, full 10 pt cms for callibration, the 8 series has the local contrast enhancer which nobody even knows what it is or what it does. Save yourself the cash get the d550 and put curtains on ur windows.
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the 59/64 inch versions are known to be almost twice as deep in black as the 51 inch version. It isn't kuro black performance but the 59/64 d series samsung have a .006 black level (samsung claimed it was a .004 black level this year but they are filthy liars) but .006 still isnt terrible. Samsung even beats the VT30 in almost all areas except black level for way less money.

And yes the d550 has the same panel, the same crystal hd processing, the same black level, the same everything PQ wise as the 6,7,8 series. The only things the 6,7,8 series offer are AR coating, filter that blocks light comming from above, internet features, wifi built in, better cosmetics, full 10 pt cms for callibration, the 8 series has the local contrast enhancer which nobody even knows what it is or what it does. Save yourself the cash get the d550 and put curtains on ur windows.

with all that's been happening i am glad i my set doesn't have an AR filter on it... now i don't have to worry about it peeling off.

where are your sources that say the black level on the 51 pdp's have almost 100% less black levels than the bigger panels?


sources please.

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the 59/64 inch versions are known to be almost twice as deep in black as the 51 inch version. It isn't kuro black performance but the 59/64 d series samsung have a .006 black level (samsung claimed it was a .004 black level this year but they are filthy liars) but .006 still isnt terrible. Samsung even beats the VT30 in almost all areas except black level for way less money.

And yes the d550 has the same panel, the same crystal hd processing, the same black level, the same everything PQ wise as the 6,7,8 series. The only things the 6,7,8 series offer are AR coating, filter that blocks light comming from above, internet features, wifi built in, better cosmetics, full 10 pt cms for callibration, the 8 series has the local contrast enhancer which nobody even knows what it is or what it does. Save yourself the cash get the d550 and put curtains on ur windows.

I have both a 59 and 51. the blacks are the same on both, if there .006 I don't believe it. the blacks on both glow in a dark room.

I have a 51 and 59 and the blacks are the same on both
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with all that's been happening i am glad i my set doesn't have an AR filter on it... now i don't have to worry about it peeling off.

where are your sources that say the black level on the 51 pdp's have almost 100% less black levels than the bigger panels?


sources please.

Sources are many AVS posts for all of the '11 versions (64"/59" vs. 51"), and the same for all the '10 versions (63"/58" vs. 50"). Search and you shall find.
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the 59/64 inch versions are known to be almost twice as deep in black as the 51 inch version. It isn't kuro black performance but the 59/64 d series samsung have a .006 black level (samsung claimed it was a .004 black level this year but they are filthy liars) but .006 still isnt terrible. Samsung even beats the VT30 in almost all areas except black level for way less money.

And yes the d550 has the same panel, the same crystal hd processing, the same black level, the same everything PQ wise as the 6,7,8 series. The only things the 6,7,8 series offer are AR coating, filter that blocks light comming from above, internet features, wifi built in, better cosmetics, full 10 pt cms for callibration, the 8 series has the local contrast enhancer which nobody even knows what it is or what it does. Save yourself the cash get the d550 and put curtains on ur windows.

IIRC, the MLL is .0068 (or rounded, it would be .007).

The 8000 and 7000 have the Real Black Filter and Filterbright.
The 6500 just has the Filterbright.

I forget exactly what each one does; (I think I have the info. printed somewhere). Anyway, one or more of the Samsung plasma threads explains them.
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Sources are many AVS posts for all of the '11 versions (64"/59" vs. 51"), and the same for all the '10 versions (63"/58" vs. 50"). Search and you shall find.

i have read and read. there are lots of folks talking about *perceived* diff's. but like TOAD said.. he see's no diff between both.

I haven't read a single post with MLL readings actually comparing these sets back to back to back.

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Well, for the '10 versions there were a good number of MLL readings. For '11 versions, it's too early to get more than a few such readings; I don't know if any one has compared two of the TVs directly, so the meter and methodology would be the same. I think, but not sure, that we do have very few indirect MLL comparisons of 51" vs. 59"/64", but with different meters and methodology, such comparisons don't mean that much. Anecdotally, the majority are seeing a difference. Take it for what it's worth.
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Majority of people notice a black level difference between the 51 inch and the 59/64 inch tv's. Either way the samsung d550 59/64 have the 2nd best black level or tied for 2nd best the vt30 has the best and the gt30/st30 are damn close to the d550/6,7,8. The factor that makes the d550 so good is it's price is so much cheaper than the vt30 and has better gamma and color accuracy according to cnet.

I've studied countless hours on the 2011 plasma sets and the d550 is miles ahead in bang for the buck performance. According to cnet its 3d performance has less crosstalk than the vt30, better gamma, better color accuracy, 4 inches bigger than the 55 inch, vt30 just has lower blacks and internet features. Basically its performing like a 3000 dollar vt30 would perform for half the price. The pq is so close between the two yet the vt30 costs so much more. The PQ may be ever so slightly better on the vt30 but is it worth it to pay 1000 more dollars and get 4 inches less screen space, imo NO

Plus the panny sets black level will probly rise still
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the d550 is the best bargain of alllllllllll tv's currently in production. It has the same black level and picture quality of the d8000 just has uglier cosmetics, no smart tv features and no AR (which might be a plus considering all the coatings peeling off) plus the clear shiny coating does improve color and contrast slightly in a dark room.

59 inch (basically a 60 inch class tv) for 1500-1600 with the same PQ as their top of the line series plasma. Just so much tv and quality fo such small price

I predict the d550 series tv will sell the highest quantity of sets compared to all other plasmas for 2011. Just hands down gives you the most for the money

I was wondering, the digital audio output of the pn59d550 what audio streams does it support outputting? Dolby digital 5.1, DTS 5.1? Any versions of 7.1? or only stereo?

From the Users Manual online:

When the receiver (i.e Home Theater) is set to On, you can hear sound
output from the TV's Optical jack. When the TV is displaying a DTV (air)
signal, the TV will send out 5.1 channel sound to the receiver. When the
source is a digital component such as a DVD player and is connected to the
TV via HDMI, you will hear only 2 channel sound from the receiver.

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Do all Samsung Plasma's buzz?

I recently bought the 51D550 and had to return it because I could hear buzzing from 6-8 feet away in a quiet room.

The TV was replacing a Panasonic 42G10. I can only hear buzz from the Panasonic if I stick my ear to the back. I'm wanting to replace my Panasonic because the black levels have risen to unacceptable levels.

Should I try another Samsung? I liked everything about the TV besides the buzzing.

Thanks
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Do you possibly qualify for the free 3D glasses that Samsung is offering?

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Thanks so much for posting that link. I didn't know they had that deal going. I wasn't interested enough in 3D to buy the glasses but I won't turn down free.
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Do all Samsung Plasma's buzz?

I recently bought the 51D550 and had to return it because I could hear buzzing from 6-8 feet away in a quiet room.

The TV was replacing a Panasonic 42G10. I can only hear buzz from the Panasonic if I stick my ear to the back. I'm wanting to replace my Panasonic because the black levels have risen to unacceptable levels.

Should I try another Samsung? I liked everything about the TV besides the buzzing.

Thanks

The 51D550 in the shop, and the one I bought both buzzed. At home, during a quiet scene, between dialog, I can hear the buzz... it isn't too bad though.

I think that damping is in your room, like curtains, carpets, etc. might help - our room is pretty stark with many hard surfaces.
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You guys have been a great help, thank you very much for giving me your personal inputs. I'll be doing a decision pretty soon!
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So, based on what I've read in the online manual and on here, it seems that the only way to get 5.1 audio out of the 51D550's digital output is if your source is OTA not HDMI input. Guess I'm going to have to spring for a new receiver as well.

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5.1 stereo plays on video files too. (USB or ethernet)

Also, a poster claimed his was outputting 5.1 through his xbox and cable box, but I have not been able to do that. I think he was mistaken.
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5.1 stereo plays on video files too. (USB or ethernet)

Also, a poster claimed his was outputting 5.1 through his xbox and cable box, but I have not been able to do that. I think he was mistaken.

Are there any 50/51/55 plasmas in the general price range of the Samsung 51D550 or Panasonic S30 that will pass true 5.1 from all sources through the optical out? If I could find something even a few hundred dollars more I would jump up to one of those if it saved me from buying a new receiver.

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Do all Samsung Plasma's buzz?

I recently bought the 51D550 and had to return it because I could hear buzzing from 6-8 feet away in a quiet room.

With bright or high contrast images I can also hear a high frequency buzzing at normal viewing distance - or even further away - in quiet scenes or at low volume.
I talked to a Samsung technician (I ended up canceling his actual visit) and - along with all the stuff I had read about "plasma TV buzzing" - was convinced that what I'm hearing falls within normal range and isn't an indication of a faulty set.

I've chosen to live with it rather than go through the hassle of sending the TV back to the online store where I bought up, and possibly ending up with a replacement that buzzes just as much and could potentially have other issues.
I don't really feel like going back to LED and pay more for a smaller screen with worse 3D performance.

In any case, the vast majority of the time I don't hear the buzzing during normal operation, and even when I briefly do it's already starting to become something I don't pay much attention to.
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