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Has there ever been one? Other than OLED? Also not counting prototypes
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I used to have a Viewsonic CRT monitor with a zero minimum luminance level. It crushed blacks pretty badly but in spite of that I really enjoyed watching movies on it.
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Yes, it was the Pioneer ECC plasma.
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According to Home Theater Mag the Vizio XVT553SV LCD HDTV had.
http://www.hometheater.com/content/v...-labs-measures
check out the Black Level Reading at the top of the page.
They also say it has a really good viewing angle, which you don't usually see with an LED or LCD set.
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According to Home Theater Mag the Vizio XVT553SV LCD HDTV had.
http://www.hometheater.com/content/v...-labs-measures
check out the Black Level Reading at the top of the page.
They also say it has a really good viewing angle, which you don't usually see with an LED or LCD set.

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If the image on the Vizio screen is completely black, then the black level reading above will apply. But it took comparatively little illumination in an image to increase the black level across the entire screen.

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I have the Vizio, its a great TV for what it costs but its black level isn't as amazing as that HT mag article is saying
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Some led lit lcds will actually turn the leds completely off for black screens, thus giving "absolute black".

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Some led lit lcds will actually turn the leds completely off for black screens, thus giving "absolute black".

Yeah, but that usually isn't what people mean for the simple reason that it's a gimmick. You lose all the black detail when you do that - where normally you have gradations, you just have a flat color so it's not really "true black" since it's destroying your PQ with a gimmick.
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A CRT. You know what you see on a blank / black CRT screen in a pitch black room? Almost complete darkness. Try it if you have one in the house still, somewhere.



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