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Smurfin,

I've owned six Panasonic plasmas during the past five years. This is the first Samsung for me -- and it has the least line bleed of all of them.

Yes, I consider it a great set.

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Hi Larry

Since I first got into plasmas, I've owned 4 Panasonics, a 9G Pioneer Kuro and this is my second Samsung. By far this is the worst for line bleed.

That said, it's not a killer for me as the issues which come with other sets outweigh linebleed, which I notice mainly on credits/TV adverts and generally when there is a white background (terrible on X-Box though). The Samsung has alot going for it
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You must be the only one Larry!

Moose, unfortunately line bleed (even with calibration) is part and parcle of this set.

I have not seen one instance of line bleed on my D8000.

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zoyd,

It must be us then.

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tried looking for some line bleed with the browser but it was clean

@Larry, yep, must be that AVS special members get better QA on their displays.
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tried looking for some line bleed with the browser but it was clean

@Larry, yep, must be that AVS special members get better QA on their displays.


I don't know what we did to deserve such luck. I have no buzzing, no flickering, no screen peeling, no line bleed, and hardly any banding (I think whatever little banding I see is from the source.)

WRT the line bleed: maybe it's not luck. Maybe it's because we don't like retina searing 40+ ftL pictures.

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While watching "the hunt for red october" in movie mode, after a reset,
with all useless stuff off, at different parts of the movie I could see the
black bars fluctuating in brightness, it did not seem to be affecting the
the picture and wasnt happening that often, but ive never seen this in other
sets ive owned. Other than that the p.q. was outstanding, very happy with
set, just dont get these fluctuation issues...

I have had the same issues, I'm exchanging the set for a new one on thursday to see if its just an issue with mine or if it happens with all the sets.
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I started noticing the fluctuation black bars on my set. Happens very rarely but it happens. Ah well, doesn't happen when I'm watching something where it would matter so I'm not gonna worry about it.
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tried looking for some line bleed with the browser but it was clean

@Larry, yep, must be that AVS special members get better QA on their displays.

Consider me jealous! I'm using larry's latest settings and still have line bleed . I have very rare brightness fluctuations but they are super infrequent and barely noticeable.
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prophcy0,

What size D7000 do you have?

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Larry, I have 64D7000, these settings are fantastic. I thought I liked this tv before. Anyone else who has 7000, use these settings. Just curious my tv is only at 65 hours. Is there any concerns about using these new settings so early in tv?
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Okay guys, this is my first time posting here. I've always been a reader. I have an pn51d8000 and I kind of F***** up hard. I went into the service menu and because the control for that thing is sooo weird i changed some stuff with out knowing. could some one with this tv Please please please go into their service menu and post all the defaul settings PLEASE.
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I don't know what we did to deserve such luck. I have no buzzing, no flickering, no screen peeling, no line bleed, and hardly any banding (I think whatever little banding I see is from the source.)

WRT the line bleed: maybe it's not luck. Maybe it's because we don't like retina searing 40+ ftL pictures.

None of these problems with my set either. And that's with retina searing light output!
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prophcy0,

What size D7000 do you have?

Larry

64 inch. I want to thank you for your latest settings because they look great on my set. I'm still not completely happy with the black level of my tv, but I am pretty sure that is just because I expected too much out of it. As long as there is a little ambient light in the room everything looks fantastic.
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I'm still not completely happy with the black level of my tv, but I am pretty sure that is just because I expected too much out of it. As long as there is a little ambient light in the room everything looks fantastic.

Bias lighting can also help make blacks appear darker. Works great for me.
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Bias lighting can also help make blacks appear darker. Works great for me.

I have a cheap bias light right now ("6500k" bulb from home depot) but I plan to buy an idealume in the near future.
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I have a cheap bias light right now ("6500k" bulb from home depot) but I plan to buy an idealume in the near future.

Yeah, I use the Idealume panel lights. They're great.
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I also own the PN64D7000 and have since March 24th, 2011. I have tried all sorts of calibration settings from Cue03's to TivoHD to now Larry's. I may not have the discernible eye that others might, but I have not noticed any of the conditions that others are experiencing from floating blacks to line bleed to peeling. Heck, I don't even hear a buzz from this TV unless I'm about 3 inches from it.

The TV has been absolutely fantastic in both 2D and 3D modes either through DirectTV, the Oppo 93, Netflix, or gaming. Best TV I have owned to date. Just wanted to share for others that are on the fence about buying. Sorry to hear others may be experiencing issues.


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Time for a stupid question. I am considering a D8000. The Day/Night calibration option is especially interesting. With my current display I change the backlight value for day or night viewing. With the D8000...how do you toggle between the two modes? Or is it done automatically somehow?
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Time for a stupid question. I am considering a D8000. The Day/Night calibration option is especially interesting. With my current display I change the backlight value for day or night viewing. With the D8000...how do you toggle between the two modes? Or is it done automatically somehow?

It's not automatic, the quickest way is to hit "tools" on the remote and select the other mode.

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It's not automatic, the quickest way is to hit "tools" on the remote and select the other mode.

Thank you
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From the Panasonic ST30 vs GT30 - calibration potential? thread in the calibration forum.

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Hmmm...interesting. I guess the night/day modes aren't overly important in the end. Thank you Chad...BTW - you would be my calibrator of choice in my area as well, so I certainly value your opinion.

I'm stuck between the Panny ST or GT and the Sammy 7000 or 8000. The pros and cons seem to balance out between the two manufacturers. So it will probably come down to their calibration potential.

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If those are your choices, I would get the 700/8000 as they are, IMO, better than the ST30/GT30 post calibration.

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From the Panasonic ST30 vs GT30 - calibration potential? thread in the calibration forum.








Larry

Thanks. The news that the day/night modes are available after the firmware update certainly helps me make my decision.
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Thanks to Elwaylite and Joel Barsotti at SpectraCal for their help !!!

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Samsung PN64D7000 Calibration charts 6-02 - refined.pdf 367.6103515625k . file
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Very nice work, Dave.

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Very nice work, Dave.

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Thanks Larry, still learning the basics. For anyone interested, I've enclosed a comparison of the D7000 default Movie Mode settings and the results of the calibration.

 

Samsung PN64D7000 Movie Mode default vs.Calibration (1009 Firmware) low res.pdf 474.8837890625k . file
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I did the 1013 upgrade last night and I didn't see any changes in menu options or picture on my d8000. I have a cable box and ps3 connected to it , are these upgrades for pc only?
Does any one what was upgraded by 1013?
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Last night I had a little time to re-do the calibration on my 64D7000. The initial run was conducted with only 50 hours on the set and this new run is with about 200 hours.

For my D7000, the posted D8000 settings do not work well at all. In particular, the gamma setting is quite different.

Here are the results of the new calibration. The main changes are in the color space section and the resulting 10 point values. (I didn't have enough time to do them carefully the first time around.) The peak output for these settings on my 64D7000 is about 29 ftL with a gamma of about 2.22. I have attached graphs for the RGB tracking, gamma, and the color gamut.

Movie mode
Cell light 15
contrast 80
brightness 62
sharpness 10
color 48
tint 50/50
black tone off
dynamic off
gamma 1
flesh tone 0
edge enhance off
motion lighting off
xvYcc off
color tone warm2
digital noise off
mpeg noise off
color space
Red_r 100
Red_g 90
Red_b 80
Green_r 100
Green_g 20
Green_b 0
Blue_r 65
Blue_g 0
Blue_b 87
Yellow_r 0
Yellow_g 100
Yellow_b 0
Cyan_r 100
Cyan_g 40
Cyan_b 50
Magenta_r 79
Magenta_g 81
Magenta_b 55
White Balance
r-off 28
g-off 22
b-off 22
r-gain 27
g-gain 22
b-gain 22
10-pt
r1 0
g1 0
b1 1
r2 -1
g2 0
b2 0
r3 -1
g3 0
b3 0
r4 -1
g4 0
b4 0
r5 -2
g5 0
b5 1
r6 -2
g6 1
b6 0
r7 0
g7 0
b7 0
r8 -2
g8 0
b8 2
r9 1
g9 0
b9 -1
r10 0
g10 1
b10 -1

Larry,

First off I want to thank you for taking the time out to post your settings. I'm pretty new to this and have been running your previous settings and they look great, I was just wondering why the big difference between these new settings and the old ones regarding the color space and 10 point value. Did you see a big improvement?
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I've had my 59d8000 for 2 weeks now, and its a keeper. I've been watching this thread even before I got the TV. Now I think I want to try one of the calibrations settings here, but I'd love to get your advice as to which one I should try, once you know this about me:

I have to admit I kinda like the Standard picture mode I'm using now. I put the Cell Light down to 10 during my break-in. I also like Relax in some situations. When I had my c8000 I tried various calibrations from the boards and, to me, most were a little to sepia or gold for my liking. They made watching CNN kinda strange, like it was a movie. If I'm correct to call the opposite of that "Vibrant color" than I more of a vibrant color kinda guy. I watch 60% standard TV stuff (including news and live stuff) and maybe 40% sports and movies. I also know that I do like a kind of high degree of contrast. I feel like my current Standard setting is also producing to much graininess.

If possible, I think I want to avoid going into the SM to activate the cal-day and cal-night. I'm a little scared to do go into the SM, and I've heard there could be a bug with the cal settings and then coming or going to 3D, is that right?

So how would you all suggest I proceed?
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Larry,

First off I want to thank you for taking the time out to post your settings. I'm pretty new to this and have been running your previous settings and they look great, I was just wondering why the big difference between these new settings and the old ones regarding the color space and 10 point value. Did you see a big improvement?


My initial setting had preliminary values for the color space. The newer settings are what you should be using. The 10 point values changed because of the change in the color space values -- there is an interaction.

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So how would you all suggest I proceed?

Honestly, if you like the look of the Standard and Relax modes and you want super vibrant colors with high contrast and lots of pop, you probably won't like any of the settings here. The calibrated settings are more accurate to real life, which actually gives the TV less pop.
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