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post #61 of 851 Old 07-21-2011, 02:17 PM
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In order to get to Color Temp, select Tint (so it shows up at the bottom of the screen), then hit down. It's a "hidden" option.

Thanks for the settings! I applied them but they turned out to have too much of a yellow tint for me. Whites were not white, but gray. I did use the rest of your method besides Color Temp and Color Gamut. Thanks again!
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Hi all...just got this TV, and was wondering whether I should set the resolution to "native" on my Directv HD receiver? With my old RPTV I kept the setting on 1080i for everything. Thanks for any advice!
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for those that dont understand the previous table settings shared by Blacknoir with dnice calibration

ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

Contrast: 77
Brightness: 53
H. Sharp: 39
V. Sharp: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: W30

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Film Mode: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancement: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
5 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

10 ire
r -16
g 0
b -36

15 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

20 ire
r -17
g -13
b -34

25 ire
r -9
g 0
b -37

30 ire
r -6
g 9
b -29

35 ire
r 0
g 0
b -13

40 ire
r 9
g 17
b -25

45 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

5o ire
r -10
g 0
b -42

55 ire
r -18
g 0
b -10

60 ire
r 15
g 20
b -37

65 ire
r -18
g 0
b 0

70 ire
r 5
g 30
b -31

75 ire
r -9
g 9
b -29

80 ire
r -6
g 19
b -50

85 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

90 ire
r -8
g 16
b -9

95 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

100 ire
r -5
g 0
b -24

red color
0
red tint
-1
green color
-6
green tint
0
blue color
-8
blue tint
0
yelow color
-5
yellow tint
11
cyan color
-2
cyan tint
-2
magenta color
-3
magenta tint
-10

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When I watch cable tv with film mode on some shows when camera angle/scene changes I get like a juddering affect but if I turn it off works fine. I'm just wondering when should I turn film mode on and what benefits I'm I getting when using it properly?
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Question for 60PV450 owners, does one of the HDMI ports on this TV support Audio Return Channel? Thanks.
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I'm very close to buying this set within the next hour or so. (Or I can wait till tomorrow) i'd honestly be buying this set mainly because of it's super cheap price. It's also surprisingly great on energy. I would be getting the 60 inch. Can anyone say how it works for gaming? Black level? I only use HD so i'm not concerned about how SD looks. how does HD look overall? Does this set have a game mode? etc.... Thanks!
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I'm very close to buying this set within the next hour or so. (Or I can wait till tomorrow) i'd honestly be buying this set mainly because of it's super cheap price. It's also surprisingly great on energy. I would be getting the 60 inch. Can anyone say how it works for gaming? Black level? I only use HD so i'm not concerned about how SD looks. how does HD look overall? Does this set have a game mode? etc.... Thanks!

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I have the 60PV450 and I counld't be happier. Yes, this set has a Game mode. I'm still breaking this in so I have not played my Wii for more than 2 hours so far. Black level is good enough for me. I don't look for black levels when I watch blu-ray. HD looks fantastic on this set. I have a light controlled room so glare is not an issue. Also, I have a z-line mount for thsi TV and I can tilt it down too during very bright days.

In short, I counldn't be happier with this TV considering I bought this for less than $900. I was gonna buy a Panasonic GT30, but the price difference is too big to justify.
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I have the 60PV450 and I counld't be happier. Yes, this set has a Game mode. I'm still breaking this in so I have not played my Wii for more than 2 hours so far. Black level is good enough for me. I don't look for black levels when I watch blu-ray. HD looks fantastic on this set. I have a light controlled room so glare is not an issue. Also, I have a z-line mount for thsi TV and I can tilt it down too during very bright days.

In short, I counldn't be happier with this TV considering I bought this for less than $900. I was gonna buy a Panasonic GT30, but the price difference is too big to justify.

60inch for that price? Whaaaaaaat. How?
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it has game av settings I don't no if it's a game mode feature thought? I think plasmas don't need game modes like LCD I see no lag no matter what mode I'm using
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Hello everyone.

I just took delivery of my 60PV400 yesterday afternoon. I'm truly loving this television so far and it's a monumental leap forward from my Mitsubishi WS-55807 RPTV.

I don't see that it's been asked yet so, what is the difference between the PV400 and PV450? I can't seem to find any information on the 400 and just want to know that it's okay to reference info for the 450 with confidence. Are there any features I'm missing?
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it has game av settings I don't no if it's a game mode feature thought? I think plasmas don't need game modes like LCD I see no lag no matter what mode I'm using

Hmm. This isn't my 1st plasma. I'd be a bit surprised if the lag was low enough that you didn't need to use a game mode. Would he great though. Means I could tweak and play it in its best picture settings. Guess ill find out later today! Sets on the way!

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Hello everyone.

I just took delivery of my 60PV400 yesterday afternoon. I'm truly loving this television so far and it's a monumental leap forward from my Mitsubishi WS-55807 RPTV.

I don't see that it's been asked yet so, what is the difference between the PV400 and PV450? I can't seem to find any information on the 400 and just want to know that it's okay to reference info for the 450 with confidence. Are there any features I'm missing?

There isn't any difference between the two from what I've heard. It's the same set. Just some stores sell a different model. From what I've seen of the two I haven't seen a single difference.
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Just got the PV450 on the weekend, didn't bother with any break in, it's located in my basement. Here's my feedback.
-Glare problem not an issue with my two small windows in the basement and pot lights. However I probably would not get this TV for upstairs rooms with lots of windows.
-Movies look amazing in cinema mode - I tried the settings from Blacknoir above, perhaps I did something wrong because the picture did not look as good as in cinema mode.
-My sons game nonstop due to summer vacation on PS3, XBOX, and WII. They love it. I cannot comment about black levels, lag, etc. All I can say is that it's amazing to see the games on the big screen - we leave the TV on cinema mode - but I will try the game mode as suggested above.
-OMG the size is really unbelievable. I saw the TV in the store but next to the others it was difficult to judge the size. At home it's like a Movie Theater, it's such a pleasure to re-look at movies I have seen before on the new TV: Matrix, Armageddon, LOTR, etc. Difficult to communicate how big the TV is, my previous was a 47 inch LCD.
-XBMC media player - I have a modded AppleTV hooked up to it and no problems with 720p MKV content. However I need to download HD shows now, because ordinary divix do not look as good on large screen.
-Rogers cable (Canada) - ordered a hi-def PVR Cisco receiver - perfect integration with the TV. Again HD content is amazing, SD content is just ok. Perhaps the issue is once you get used to HD it's hard to go back to SD. I may have to upgrade cable package to include more HD channels. I did not see this comment/issue elsewhere in my research - so just be warned.
-It's large and heavy. The TV stand I bought from Costco had a back-plate and mount. I struggled to keep the TV level and screw down the screws. Due to the weight it kept going off level. Finally managed to lock it down with the mount and fairly level. Honestly I would need a professional if I were to mount the TV on a wall. There is considerably more heat than an LCD - you can feel it with just your hand at the back of the TV. Not a big issue however.
-Plasma versus LED: I spent hours researching this topic, so far glad I went with Plasma.
-Quality: unknown - only one week in. Have not seen many issues on the net regarding issues.
-Final comment: Do I recommend this TV - absolutely, if you are on the fence go for it. I purchased during a recent BestBuy sale - it was hundreds less than other 60 inch tv's. Only caveat is about the location, windows, etc. I hope these comments help others.

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I'm very close to buying this set within the next hour or so. (Or I can wait till tomorrow) i'd honestly be buying this set mainly because of it's super cheap price. It's also surprisingly great on energy. I would be getting the 60 inch. Can anyone say how it works for gaming? Black level? I only use HD so i'm not concerned about how SD looks. how does HD look overall? Does this set have a game mode? etc.... Thanks!

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Just got the PV450 on the weekend, didn't bother with any break in, it's located in my basement. Here's my feedback.
-Glare problem not an issue with my two small windows in the basement and pot lights. However I probably would not get this TV for upstairs rooms with lots of windows.
-Movies look amazing in cinema mode - I tried the settings from Blacknoir above, perhaps I did something wrong because the picture did not look as good as in cinema mode.
-My sons game nonstop due to summer vacation on PS3, XBOX, and WII. They love it. I cannot comment about black levels, lag, etc. All I can say is that it's amazing to see the games on the big screen - we leave the TV on cinema mode - but I will try the game mode as suggested above.
-OMG the size is really unbelievable. I saw the TV in the store but next to the others it was difficult to judge the size. At home it's like a Movie Theater, it's such a pleasure to re-look at movies I have seen before on the new TV: Matrix, Armageddon, LOTR, etc. Difficult to communicate how big the TV is, my previous was a 47 inch LCD.
-XBMC media player - I have a modded AppleTV hooked up to it and no problems with 720p MKV content. However I need to download HD shows now, because ordinary divix do not look as good on large screen.
-Rogers cable (Canada) - ordered a hi-def PVR Cisco receiver - perfect integration with the TV. Again HD content is amazing, SD content is just ok. Perhaps the issue is once you get used to HD it's hard to go back to SD. I may have to upgrade cable package to include more HD channels. I did not see this comment/issue elsewhere in my research - so just be warned.
-It's large and heavy. The TV stand I bought from Costco had a back-plate and mount. I struggled to keep the TV level and screw down the screws. Due to the weight it kept going off level. Finally managed to lock it down with the mount and fairly level. Honestly I would need a professional if I were to mount the TV on a wall. There is considerably more heat than an LCD - you can feel it with just your hand at the back of the TV. Not a big issue however.
-Plasma versus LED: I spent hours researching this topic, so far glad I went with Plasma.
-Quality: unknown - only one week in. Have not seen many issues on the net regarding issues.
-Final comment: Do I recommend this TV - absolutely, if you are on the fence go for it. I purchased during a recent BestBuy sale - it was hundreds less than other 60 inch tv's. Only caveat is about the location, windows, etc. I hope these comments help others.

Either way, i'm buying this set. The only thing I've noticed from most is that most seem to "not comment" on that black level. Which i can guess means the blacks are not black at all. More like a hint of grey.... Oh well, it's not like I watch the dark Knight 24/7. I'm sure it won't bother me to much. Maybe the size will make me forget about it.
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In short, I counldn't be happier with this TV considering I bought this for less than $XXX. I was gonna buy a Panasonic GT30, but the price difference is too big to justify.

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60inch for that price? Whaaaaaaat. How?

I know how I'm pretty sure I took part in that exact same deal and I am so glad that I did. This TV is absolutely great for the price!
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60inch for that price? Whaaaaaaat. How?

Jukebox,

Fry's routinely sells this model for that price. Also, the black level is excellent. Much darker than the Sony KDF55XS995 I replaced. I watched Dark Knght(blu-ray) on it a couple days ago and black is defintely balck not grey at all. And shadow detail is excellent. Granted, I'm not an expert and I don't obsess over black level like so many on other threads. I bought this TV to enjoy a better viewing experience and so far it has delivered beyond my expectation.
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Hi Guys,

The 50PV450 just keeps getting cheaper. Just went to Costco on Sunday, July 24 (in Pointe-Claire, Montreal) and I swear I almost want to buy one to give as a gift or keep as a backup. It's a few hundred less than the advertised price on their website. For the price it's an absolute freakin' steal.

As for a comment about the black level, I still haven't tried any settings except Cinema mode with Contrast at 60, and everything else at 50. With those settings, the blacks are a teensy bit greyish. It's really only noticeable when the screen completely fades to black and you compare it to the bezel. During a movie it's not as noticeable.

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On their site, it's $699, what's the price you saw in store? If it's $500 or less, I will jump on it today.
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On their site, it's $699, what's the price you saw in store? If it's $500 or less, I will jump on it today.

Hmm you must be accessing the US Costco website. I'm from Canada so Costco.ca is showing a couple hundred more than that. We are not supposed to be talking prices but the Costco in Montreal is a little bit cheaper than the US price.

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I picked up the 50PV400 from Costco two weeks ago and it was $699 in the U.S.

For the people talking about the picture quality, try the settings that blacknoir posted except turn off Film Mode, change Color Gamut to Wide, and change the White Balance to Medium.

Just try it...it looks amazing!
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for those that dont understand the previous table settings shared by Blacknoir with dnice calibration

ISF-Night settings (Expert 2)

Contrast: 77
Brightness: 53
H. Sharp: 39
V. Sharp: 50
Color: 50
Tint: 0
Color Temp: W30

Dynamic Contrast: Off
Noise Reduction: Off
Gamma: Medium
Black Level: Low
Film Mode: On
Color Gamut: Standard
Edge Enhancement: Off
White Balance: Warm
Method: 20 Point IRE
Pattern: Outer
5 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

10 ire
r -16
g 0
b -36

15 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

20 ire
r -17
g -13
b -34

25 ire
r -9
g 0
b -37

30 ire
r -6
g 9
b -29

35 ire
r 0
g 0
b -13

40 ire
r 9
g 17
b -25

45 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

5o ire
r -10
g 0
b -42

55 ire
r -18
g 0
b -10

60 ire
r 15
g 20
b -37

65 ire
r -18
g 0
b 0

70 ire
r 5
g 30
b -31

75 ire
r -9
g 9
b -29

80 ire
r -6
g 19
b -50

85 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

90 ire
r -8
g 16
b -9

95 ire
r 0
g 0
b 0

100 ire
r -5
g 0
b -24

red color
0
red tint
-1
green color
-6
green tint
0
blue color
-8
blue tint
0
yelow color
-5
yellow tint
11
cyan color
-2
cyan tint
-2
magenta color
-3
magenta tint
-10

It would be a lot of help if someone made a video putting these in. There is a whole lot of numbers here and I'm very unsure If i'm doing it correctly or not
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Got this set. It isn't bad. It's only problem is black level. Sucks pretty bad. But I expected that givin the price of this set and size. One thing I can't seem to find is any anti burn in features. This set doesn't have any? That worries me a little bit.
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I picked up the 50PV400 from Costco two weeks ago and it was $699 in the U.S.

For the people talking about the picture quality, try the settings that blacknoir posted except turn off Film Mode, change Color Gamut to Wide, and change the White Balance to Medium.

Just try it...it looks amazing!

Not sure why you would want to trun film mode off. One of the major selling point of thsi model is its ability to do 5:5 pulldown for 24p contents. If you turn this off, then your blu-ray contents will had judders during panning. besides, I don't think it will impact the color in any way.

What improvements do you see after your chnage vs Blacknoir's?
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Not sure why you would want to trun film mode off. One of the major selling point of thsi model is its ability to do 5:5 pulldown for 24p contents. If you turn this off, then your blu-ray contents will had judders during panning. besides, I don't think it will impact the color in any way.

What improvements do you see after your chnage vs Blacknoir's?

I turn film mode off when watching cable in hd seems like it makes different shows judder alot? Dont see any picture improvement with it on. When should I turn this feature on???
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I don't see any reason to not use the settings posted. Those are the best settings your going to get.
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Another question about these TVs, or Plasmas in general. While eventually if I get this TV it will go down in my now unfinished basement, it would currently reside in my living room, and while there won't be any light, natural or artificial, opposite the TV, there is a window directly behind the TV. Does that degrade the viewing experience significantly? I have a 4 year old Olevia LCD TV and it doesn't seem to affect how bright the TV appears that much, and there are curtains that can be closed (but my wife won't let me keep shut all the time). The window faces south and looks out at the woods. Also, since I never got a response to my earlier post, do any of these models feature Audio Return Channel capability on any of the HDMI ports? Thanks.
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I have not had a chance to adjust my Father-in-Laws Plasma yet.

I did use some posted settings for my mom's LG 47LH90. I don't recall exactly how I got to the menu, but once I was there it was straight forward.

Yes, there are about 100 numbers to change, but it is very easy once you get to the correct screen.

If I get the LG Plasma adjusted this week, I'll take a video on my iPhone.

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Another question about these TVs, or Plasmas in general. While eventually if I get this TV it will go down in my now unfinished basement, it would currently reside in my living room, and while there won't be any light, natural or artificial, opposite the TV, there is a window directly behind the TV. Does that degrade the viewing experience significantly? I have a 4 year old Olevia LCD TV and it doesn't seem to affect how bright the TV appears that much, and there are curtains that can be closed (but my wife won't let me keep shut all the time). The window faces south and looks out at the woods. Also, since I never got a response to my earlier post, do any of these models feature Audio Return Channel capability on any of the HDMI ports? Thanks.
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Window behind the TV should not be an issue at all. As far as Audio return Channel goes, that's a HDMI 1.4 spec feature and since PV450 supports 1.4, so I assume it's supported. I haven't tested this myself as my receiver doesn't support HDMI 1.4.
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Got this set. It isn't bad. It's only problem is black level. Sucks pretty bad. But I expected that givin the price of this set and size. One thing I can't seem to find is any anti burn in features. This set doesn't have any? That worries me a little bit.

There's a section under options that says "ISM method" change that to orbiter. It's supposed to be an anti-burn in feature... It doesn't totally counteract it but it lessens the severity.
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I have not had a chance to adjust my Father-in-Laws Plasma yet.

I did use some posted settings for my mom's LG 47LH90. I don't recall exactly how I got to the menu, but once I was there it was straight forward.

Yes, there are about 100 numbers to change, but it is very easy once you get to the correct screen.

If I get the LG Plasma adjusted this week, I'll take a video on my iPhone.

Thanks a mill! I'm not sure if I did it right lol. A video would be best.again. thank you.
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There's a section under options that says "ISM method" change that to orbiter. It's supposed to be an anti-burn in feature... It doesn't totally counteract it but it lessens the severity.

Oh! Thanks! That's an odd spot for it lol. Glad they have the option. I wonder what the "normal" setting is suppose to do?
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I picked up the 50PV400 from Costco two weeks ago and it was $699 in the U.S.

For the people talking about the picture quality, try the settings that blacknoir posted except turn off Film Mode, change Color Gamut to Wide, and change the White Balance to Medium.

Just try it...it looks amazing!

Would someone PM me how much they'd paid for there 60inch of this set? I'm starting to think I might have paid a little to much.
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