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I'm in the market to purchase a new 3D TV between $2K and $2.5K. I was enamored with the UN55D8000 LED design (almost no frame). When I went to Best Buy, they bent over backwards to talk me out of it. Two sales reps told me that this model had an issue with the top edge bleeding light and actually coming apart. My suspicious nature led me to think they were trying to empty their warehouse. But on further investigation, it sounds like they were leveling with me.
I looked at the reviews on C-Net which gave 4 stars to the LED and 4.5 stars to the PN59D8000. The review said that the LED had banding problems.
I'm basically buying a 3D because the premium cost is not that much. I guess I can get into 3D movies but have to admit that I haven't been to too many at the theatre. But I'm making an investment for the next several years and anticipate 3D becoming more available.
I watch a lot of movies (action flics), History Channel and sitcoms. Due to the space in my room, I wanted to keep the size down to 55". And given the edgeless profile of the LED, I really focused on this model because of the large picture size and relatively small footprint. But I can fit a 59".

Question: Any recommendations? buy the LED or Plazma? C-Net really plugged the Samsung Plazma in their review.
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I just received my PN59D6500 on Friday and have been breaking it in since. It is absolutely gorgeous and my roommate last year had the 65VT25. I have noticed no drop off in picture and would argue that the picture on the 6500 is at least equal to that on the VT25, maybe sacrificing some black level, but nothing noticeable.


I looked at the 8000 and 7000 and with the peeling issue decided it wasn't worth the risk. On top of that, the screen (picture quality) is supposed to be the same or very close to it but for a fraction of the price.
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Earlier this year I replaced my old set with a UN60C6300. Dark levels and flashlighting/clouding issues drove me nuts as I like to watch mostly movies at night in a darkish environment and it just didn't work for me. Got a PN59D8000 instead, and couldn't be happier...no issues (no buzzing, peeling, brightness fluctuation, etc). It is a fugly stand compared to the smaller pedestal the other set had but that's my only complaint of any substance. The 3d and apps were a bit of a bonus but not really a requirement on my part; I do like the 3d on appropriate material (cgi/animated) and use it occasionally, but for most material I think it doesn't work well (not the set, just the medium in it's current state).

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I would say go the the 8000 but check the 8000 thread to see if samsung has fixed those peeling issues first!
If you want to save alittle more Id say go for a PN59D6500 instead. You wont have to worry about the peeling issues since they are non existent on the 6500 and the PQ is still pretty darn good uncalibrated.

As for 3d, Those active glasses from samsung gives me major headaches! I can only watch 3d content at night when its dark.

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I would say go the the 8000 but check the 8000 thread to see if samsung has fixed those peeling issues first!
If you want to save alittle more Id say go for a PN59D6500 instead. You wont have to worry about the peeling issues since they are non existent on the 6500 and the PQ is still pretty darn good uncalibrated.

As for 3d, Those active glasses from samsung gives me major headaches! I can only watch 3d content at night when its dark.

Why sacrifice PQ when BBY has a 30 day return?

Go for the PND8000, you won't regret it. In fact, they just had their annual shootout for HDTV where respected calibrators such as D-Nice and Kevin Miller professionally calibrated these displays and the Samsung was the most accurate image post calibration and considered the reference for comparison.
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Why sacrifice PQ when BBY has a 30 day return?

Go for the PND8000, you won't regret it. In fact, they just had their annual shootout for HDTV where respected calibrators such as D-Nice and Kevin Miller professionally calibrated these displays and the Samsung was the most accurate image post calibration and considered the reference for comparison.

The savings!!

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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The savings!!

I look for PQ and some may be ok with giving that up to save a couple of bucks, but that someone isn't me.
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Hmmm I wonder though what is the difference between a D6500 and the D7000/8000. Other than the filter screen and features?

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

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Hmmm I wonder though what is the difference between a D6500 and the D7000/8000. Other than the filter screen and features?

I can only speak to the superior contrast as I have not seen a calibration report for a D6500 to look at its color accuracy and video processing(VP reviews for motion tracking and artifacts)
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Im getting my 6500 calibrated soon. Ill post the report asap

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Im getting my 6500 calibrated soon. Ill post the report asap

FWIW instead of a custom calibration I borrowed one from among those offered here...http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333561 and with the very first try I found one that I can't find fault with (maybe there's a slight tweak to be had but hell if I know what that might be...looks superior to stock and looks awesome even tho I thought that borrowing a tweak not specific to my set might not work)

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FWIW instead of a custom calibration I borrowed one from among those offered here...http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1333561 and with the very first try I found one that I can't find fault with (maybe there's a slight tweak to be had but hell if I know what that might be...looks superior to stock and looks awesome even tho I thought that borrowing a tweak not specific to my set might not work)

I tried a few of the settings but just didn't like them compared to the stock "relax" mode. Hoping the calibration Ill be getting soon changes my mind

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I tried a few of the settings but just didn't like them compared to the stock "relax" mode. Hoping the calibration Ill be getting soon changes my mind

I use my calibrated movie mode for the most part, as movies are what I'm generally watching. For some football games I think relax looks a bit better but that just might be more how I'm used to seeing it on tv.

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Hmmm I wonder though what is the difference between a D6500 and the D7000/8000. Other than the filter screen and features?

dynamic contrast ratio
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