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Nooo I messed up. I interpreted Offset: 0 as the offset should be set to 0, not that it shouldn't be adjusted. I didn't write down the default values. Am I screwed now?

Ask someone to lookup the default setting for you. You could also reset your tv back to factory default. I wouldn't stress about this in the least... This is easily remedied.
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Ask someone to lookup the default setting for you. You could also reset your tv back to factory default. I wouldn't stress about this in the least... This is easily remedied.

I tried the factory reset, and it doesn't reset those values. There is no one 'default' because it varies from set to set.
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I tried the factory reset, and it doesn't reset those values. There is no one 'default' because it varies from set to set.

yup, factory reset will not fix Service values
the only way is to
post up your:
"cool" service menu
values for
Red drv
GrDRV
B DRV
the cuts are all the same on these sets
cool = everything 80
normal = everything 80
warm =
RCut 80
GrCut 80
BluCut 83
then hopefully a member will have the same or real close values for their "cool" and then their warm values will be right for you.
seems when these sets are factory set,
the cool setting is used to get the right
"brightness" and then
the other temp modes are a specific value dependent on the "cool" temp values.

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Didn't realize a factory reset would not affect these settings, my bad. Good luck man. Maybe you could spring for a pro calibration, if that would fix the issue.
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It's normal. I believe the slides are actually 5 shades of grey, green, red, and blue.

Also, due I think to the panels driving design they will not produce a full-screen bright white. I comes out grayish.

Thanks, wanted to make sure! I haven't watched anything on the TV yet, so couldn't be sure that the picture is normal. Basically just unboxed it and started the slides. About 24 hours to go now!
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Are the service menu settings for the GT30 optional or do they need to be done with all the other settings detailed in the first posts of this thread?
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Are the service menu settings for the GT30 optional or do they need to be done with all the other settings detailed in the first posts of this thread?

they are not optional if you want it calibrated to the D-Nice settings, it is the grey scale adjustment. heck you can go buy a calibration disc do do the other adjustments for your set if you do not want to adjust the settings in the SM.
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Hi,

I have a few questions which I feel like are noob and I apologize if they are:

1) Are the reference setting determined above (namely for the gt30) based on ambient room lighting (or a lack of it)?
2) Do the SM Offsets only effect the THX picture mode, or all picture modes?
3) Do all sets have the same starting SM Offsets, i.e., for the gt30 R-DRV is changed 6 times with the Vol - button. But was the initial value?

Many thanks for the research and sharing, D-Nice!
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Doesn't changing the SM settings void the warranty?
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Hi to all,

I just purchased a 55VT30 and with the help of this forum (thank you very much) I have found I need an EEPROM update. I have a tech scheduled to come out tomorrow to install the update. To confirm the tech knows what he is doing, what should I be looking for or what questions should I be asking?
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Hi to all,

I just purchased a 55VT30 and with the help of this forum (thank you very much) I have found I need an EEPROM update. I have a tech scheduled to come out tomorrow to install the update. To confirm the tech knows what he is doing, what should I be looking for or what questions should I be asking?

Out of curiosity When did u purchase and where from?
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Out of curiosity When did u purchase and where from?

About a week ago, local shop, April build. Why do you ask?
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About a week ago, local shop, April build. Why do you ask?

Just ordered mine from amazon and am wondering what build dates people are getting.
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I see the recommended settings for the ST and GT series, but not the VT. When will the recommended settings for the VT be available?
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Just ordered mine from amazon and am wondering what build dates people are getting.

I bought my 55gt30 from amazon 2 weeks ago with a august build date.
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Hi,

I have a few questions which I feel like are noob and I apologize if they are:

1) Are the reference setting determined above (namely for the gt30) based on ambient room lighting (or a lack of it)?
2) Do the SM Offsets only effect the THX picture mode, or all picture modes?
3) Do all sets have the same starting SM Offsets, i.e., for the gt30 R-DRV is changed 6 times with the Vol - button. But was the initial value?

Many thanks for the research and sharing, D-Nice!

1 Little to no light
2 They affect all modes
3 The values are all different due to panel and circuit differences. There is no common initial value. All the tv's are loosely calibrated from the factory using the same equipment so then each tv will have different initial values to match that calibration. The offsets are the button presses from what you have now. If you need to go -6 then hit down 6 times.
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Purchased from PC Richards...came with a Nov build....48 hours into slideshow
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go to HDJ to check for settings on vt30
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Ordered amazon on BF. Should have this Friday. Planning on following directions given in this thread. When finished is there anything else that should be done for break in?
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1 Little to no light
2 They affect all modes
3 The values are all different due to panel and circuit differences. There is no common initial value. All the tv's are loosely calibrated from the factory using the same equipment so then each tv will have different initial values to match that calibration. The offsets are the button presses from what you have now. If you need to go -6 then hit down 6 times.

Thanks, whipit!

With respect to your answer to #1, does that suggest that if if the TV is in a sunny room that the settings by D-Nice won't be ideal?
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FYI

I've been playing around with the Spears and Muncil test disc on my 60gt30 and have discovered that in THX mode peak whites are clipped to some extent at anywhere above a contrast setting of 46. This doesn't seem to be the case in several of the other modes i.e. Game, Custom, Vivid. The clipping appears to involve about the top 6-8 steps in peak whites in the "dynamic range high" test pattern. Standard, THX, and Cinema all appear to behave similarly while Game, Custom, and Vivid appear to have a greater dynamic range available. Source is a ps3 via HDMI with all standard video range settings applied.

As you may know, in real world viewing, this loss of peak white info can cause subtle loss in high white details depending on program material.

I'm experimenting with Custom mode at this point with Low panel brightness as it seems to be adjustable to closer to how THX looks overall (at least to my eye).

The other option would be to stay in THX mode but drop the contrast setting to 46 or lower--although to me this is a little subdued.

It's notable that I'm using factory default SM settings (have not altered the SM).
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FYI

I've been playing around with the Spears and Muncil test disc on my 60gt30 and have discovered that in THX mode peak whites are clipped to some extent at anywhere above a contrast setting of 46. This doesn't seem to be the case in several of the other modes i.e. Game, Custom, Vivid. The clipping appears to involve about the top 6-8 steps in peak whites in the "dynamic range high" test pattern. Standard, THX, and Cinema all appear to behave similarly while Game, Custom, and Vivid appear to have a greater dynamic range available. Source is a ps3 via HDMI with all standard video range settings applied.

As you may know, in real world viewing, this loss of peak white info can cause subtle loss in high white details depending on program material.

I'm experimenting with Custom mode at this point with Low panel brightness as it seems to be adjustable to closer to how THX looks overall (at least to my eye).

The other option would be to stay in THX mode but drop the contrast setting to 46 or lower--although to me this is a little subdued.

It's notable that I'm using factory default SM settings (have not altered the SM).

just an observation,
THX seems to be the mode set up for night viewing and Custom the day.
Any calibrations done in custom affect THX.
like WB, color, saturation.

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just an observation,
THX seems to be the mode set up for night viewing and Custom the day.
Any calibrations done in custom affect THX.
like WB, color, saturation.

THX mode is actually brighter overall than Custom (at least with custom at low panel brightness setting). Dave O measured 37 fl with THX and 26fl with Custom and this is consistent with what others have measured. This increased light output may be related to the reason why THX is clipping peak whites but that is only a guess on my part.

User menu settings in Custom do not effect those in other modes AFAIK.
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THX mode is actually brighter overall than Custom (at least with custom at low panel brightness setting). Dave O measured 37 fl with THX and 26fl with Custom and this is consistent with what others have measured. This increased light output may be related to the reason why THX is clipping peak whites but that is only a guess on my part.

User menu settings in Custom do not effect those in other modes AFAIK.

THX has a different gamma than Custom
Approx 2.0 vs 2.2.
From experience THX works better for dark rooms and Custom For
bright rooms.
Has to do with gammas.
This difference will give better performance when
color, contrast, and brightness are optimized for a true
pic.
As always, your personal tastes will be the judge.
I find that thx allows a better pic at low light setting than Custom and custom a better pic at high light

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Any procedure like this for the S30 model?
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THX has a different gamma than Custom
Approx 2.0 vs 2.2.
From experience THX works better for dark rooms and Custom For
bright rooms.
Has to do with gammas.
This difference will give better performance when
color, contrast, and brightness are optimized for a true
pic.
As always, your personal tastes will be the judge.
I find that thx allows a better pic at low light setting than Custom and custom a better pic at high light

From what I read most professional reviewers liked the ST in custom / cinema mode even over the GT in THX because of better gamma results (with an emphasis to appealing to the darker room individuals)?
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just an observation,
THX seems to be the mode set up for night viewing and Custom the day.
Any calibrations done in custom affect THX.
like WB, color, saturation.

THX mode on the GT actually has pretty
spot on gamma (~2.2) according to ChadB.
Apparently, it's all in how it's measured.
The peak white clipping noted above is of some
concern though.
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THX mode on the GT actually has pretty
spot on gamma (~2.2) according to ChadB.
Apparently, it's all in how it's measured.
The peak white clipping noted above is of some
concern though.

just noticed there are not the usual 2 modes being listed. Just one.
from the numbers a
bright/day one.
It is curious how on the GT only THX is the listed calibration.
Guess they had the best gamma at 2.2
all others are custom.
Interesting.

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Can anyone tell me what I am supposed to do with these slides as far as how to get them to cycle through, etc? I assume you throw them on a USB stick but then can you set it to continuously loop or something?
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Any procedure like this for the S30 model?

So should I just take that as a no?
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