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post #91 of 601 Old 12-31-2011, 04:10 PM
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CES 2012 is only 11 days away and the Panasonic Viera announcement is only 10 days away. The prices of the 2011 models aren't going to change much in the next 10 days. So if you're thinking of purchasing a 2011 model now, there's very little harm in waiting 10 days to see what the 2012 models are going to offer, and then deciding if you want a discounted 2011 model in January 2012 or you want to wait until April/May 2012 for a full price 2012 model.

I ordered a P60VT30 from Amazon today price matched with Fry's @1099 + shipping. The next 30 days is not going to give any better pricing IMHO.

so I have 30 days from the day I get it and if CES 2012 has some real good announcements, guess what? Free returns comes in handy.
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I ordered a P60VT30 from Amazon today price matched with Fry's @1099 + shipping. The next 30 days is not going to give any better pricing IMHO.

so I have 30 days from the day I get it and if CES 2012 has some real good announcements, guess what? Free returns comes in handy.

Correction: you most likely got that deal on a 60ST30

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...post&t=1383743
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I ordered a P60VT30 from Amazon today price matched with Fry's @1099 + shipping. The next 30 days is not going to give any better pricing IMHO.

so I have 30 days from the day I get it and if CES 2012 has some real good announcements, guess what? Free returns comes in handy.

True, if you don't then mind waiting many months after you return it and therefore not enjoying it in order to get a new model.

Always a trade off...
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Correction: you most likely got that deal on a 60ST30

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...post&t=1383743

ya its the ST30

do they even make a 60" VT30
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ya its the ST30

do they even make a 60" VT30
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They make different sizes of the VT for markets in Europe...I think in Japan too.
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They make different sizes of the VT for markets in Europe...I think in Japan too.

In Hungary:

3D capable TVs

TX-P65VT30
TX-P55VT30
TX-P50VT30
TX-P42VT30
TX-P50GT30
TX-P46GT30
TX-P42GT30
TX-P50ST30E
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TX-P42ST30
TX-P42UT30
TX-P50UT30

Capable of only 2D picture TVs

TX-P50G30E (the most popular model, circa 1100 USD)
TX-P46G30
TX-P42G30,

and non NeoPDP models.

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Noticed this yet?
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/exhib...own/index.html

Reading tea leaves on this teaser pic, combined with previous statements here that the forthcoming 2012 models will be brighter, one might come to the conclusion that the new plasmas (and/or LCDs) might be using 5 subpixels (orange/yellow/green/purple/cyan) instead of the common 3 (red/green/blue)...
They quite as well might NOT, of course.

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lol, wonder if they'll get Bill Shatner to do their commercials, take that Takei!

Will Sony come out with a TV with 6 pixels at CES though?
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I hope my VT30 breaks so I can get a new VT50, maybe the picture will actually be good out of the box, so I don't need to waste my time with all these settings, FBR issues, blah picture. My 10 year old 42" panny plasma is 10x better then this piece of crap.

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My 10 year old 42" panny plasma is 10x better then this piece of crap.

Ten years old Panasonic plasma? What type is it?

I think the first Panasonic Viera (Vision + Era) plasma TV issued in 2003.

Regardless of this it would be useful a thread compare old TVs with the subsequent models.

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I think its model 42PX500U.. awesome tv, I wish I never went with the 55. I think I bought it almost okay.. maybe 8 years ago?

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I think its model 42PX500U.. awesome tv, I wish I never went with the 55. I think I bought it almost okay.. maybe 8 years ago? Mo

That's a 2005 model. I still have my 42PX50 (same panel and electronics and picture quality, but smaller speakers than yours) and i assure you there's nothing about these models that would make em better than a VT30. You sound like you're just mad at your VT30

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That's a 2005 model. I still have my 42PX50 (same panel and electronics and picture quality, but smaller speakers than yours) and i assure you there's nothing about these models that would make em better than a VT30. You sound like you're just mad at your VT30

Nothing that would make them better.

And anything that would make them worse? Apart from power consumption? Fluctuating Brightness exists?

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[quote=mohanman;21446498]I'm not saying your wrong, because I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident it is older then that. Anyways, whatever the age may be, the picture on that tv is 10-20 times better than my new vt30. The vt30 has no where near the sharpness, brightness or colors compared that my old 42 which is now mounted in my bedroom. I have no idea why, but the vt30 is a piece of crap. I should have waited, or my model is defective.. I just don't know.

Oh and playing xbox 360 on the PX500U was actually fun! i loved it! I played resident evil 5, portal 1 and 2, the games looked amazing! Now the VT30.. it sucks! The colors are bland, the brightness is weird, and the sharpness is dull and faded. I've had it professionally calibrated, I've tried all the settings including custom, vivid, game, everything! I just don't understand. It lacks details.
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A low power consumption range of plasma TVs.

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I'm not saying your wrong, because I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty confident it is older then that. Anyways, whatever the age may be, the picture on that tv is 10-20 times better than my new vt30. The vt30 has no where near the sharpness, brightness or colors compared that my old 42 which is now mounted in my bedroom. I have no idea why, but the vt30 is a piece of crap. I should have waited, or my model is defective.. I just don't know.

Oh and playing xbox 360 on the PX500U was actually fun! i loved it! I played resident evil 5, portal 1 and 2, the games looked amazing! Now the VT30.. it sucks! The colors are bland, the brightness is weird, and the sharpness is dull and faded. I've had it professionally calibrated, I've tried all the settings including custom, vivid, game, everything! I just don't understand. It lacks details.

Its your particular set that's defective then and you should get Panasonic to take a look at it. There are no plasma TVs from 2005 or earlier that would have a better looking picture then the VT30 - especially since the VT30 actually does 1080p as opposed to your old TV. Three months ago I replaced my 2002 TH-42PWD5UY with a 65TV30. While the dithering is much more apparent at that screen size, in every other measure the VT30 is miles ahead of my old TV, even on SD Full Screen DVDs stretched to take up the whole screen.
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After much whining and complaining about my VT30 for the past 6 months (ever since I bought it), I think I figured out what the problem is. I had the A-board replaced and the picture improved. At the sometime my Denon receiver broke (yes after 6 months of use 1912 model), so it was out to repair. After I got it back, I noticed things started going downhill. So last night, I swapped it out for a yamaha 671, the picture quality is 10 times better. It might have been my stupid Denon receiver all along. Don't ask me why, the picture looked more dull. This was my first denon receiver, broke in 6 months and the HDMI picture looked bad. My wife has noted a big difference too. weird?
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Glad to see you got a handle on this.
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Im thinking about waiting for the 2012 vt50 to come out instead of getting the 2011 model. Or maybe ill just wait till the vt99 comes out sometime around 2020 with laser hologram tv and smellovision!!
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The official announcement is out.

Here are the 17 new models:

VT50 (55, 65")
GT50 (50, 55, 60, 65")
ST50 (50, 55, 60, 65")
UT50 (42, 50, 55, 60)
XT50 (42, 50)
U50 (50")

Interesting that there's no 46", although I guess not that surprising as I don't think it sold well. Also, I'm kind of disappointed that they've been steadily eliminating smaller sets from the higher end lines. In 2011 they eliminated <50" from the GT series but at least they still had the ST. Now they've eliminated the ST series under 50" too and from the press release it sounds like the UT series doesn't have the same black levels as the ST. I soooo should have pulled the trigger on a $480 42ST30 when I had a chance a few months ago as I don't really have space for anything bigger.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think we will learn too much from CES? The insider at the other forum has already said all of the models may not be announced and little to no technical info, as well as no pricing or availability.

The big thing is once CES hits, then the people who know can start talking about the models, they can get reviewed, etc...it's like a damn releasing a wave of information.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think we will learn too much from CES? The insider at the other forum has already said all of the models may not be announced and little to no technical info, as well as no pricing or availability.

Great CES interview by a Panasonic tech guy.
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So what do you guys think about this?

Panasonic unveils Infinite Black Ultra Panel plasmas for 2012:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/p...as-for-2012-e/
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There was a VT35?

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So what do you guys think about this?

Panasonic unveils Infinite Black Ultra Panel plasmas for 2012:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/p...as-for-2012-e/

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In Hungary:

3D capable TVs

TX-P65VT30
TX-P55VT30
TX-P50VT30
TX-P42VT30
TX-P50GT30
TX-P46GT30
TX-P42GT30
TX-P50ST30E
TX-P46ST30E
TX-P42ST30
TX-P42UT30
TX-P50UT30

Capable of only 2D picture TVs

TX-P50G30E (the most popular model, circa 1100 USD)
TX-P46G30
TX-P42G30,

and non NeoPDP models.

This sucks. Same thing here in Finland. 60 or 65 inch GT50 would be awesome, since VT50 will probably be so expensive. But they will probably bring only 50 inch GT's like last year. If thats the case, then im pretty sure i will get Samsung 59/64 E8000.

Do you guys think that Panasonic will beat Samsung on brightness this year? Last year Samsung was much more brighter. Brighter image would be cool for 3D.
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Heard through a friend who works at Panasonic that the 2013 Panny's are going to exceed Kuro technology in terms of blacks and everything else, but only in the VT series. Also, they have big plans for OLED but realize the price is going to be high for quite some time and so they hope to fill in the gap with Kuro-esque quality (which will also eventually trickle down to the lower end models of course). All makes sense since they have access to the Kuro technology.

So, you might want to wait for 2013 rather than the ones that have just been announced.
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Heard through a friend who works at Panasonic that the 2013 Panny's are going to exceed Kuro technology in terms of blacks and everything else, but only in the VT series.

False. Only a select few engineers know anything about future Panasonic PDPs. None of them live outside of Japan.
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Yeah dont buy any TV now, just keep waiting a few years because a friend of a friend of a friends girlfriends cousins brothers uncles sister said something might be coming down the pipe in 2013 or 2014 or maybe even 2015
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False. Only a select few engineers know anything about future Panasonic PDPs. None of them live outside of Japan.

Did I say he didn't live in Japan?
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Heard through a friend who works at Panasonic that the 2013 Panny's are going to exceed Kuro technology in terms of blacks and everything else, but only in the VT series. Also, they have big plans for OLED but realize the price is going to be high for quite some time and so they hope to fill in the gap with Kuro-esque quality (which will also eventually trickle down to the lower end models of course). All makes sense since they have access to the Kuro technology.

So, you might want to wait for 2013 rather than the ones that have just been announced.

I'm more interested in the Panasonic OLED than their plasma range at this point.

They've under delivered on plasma for years now. Still good panels sometimes, but they aren't getting better blacks than Kuro or the Elite.

I would love to be wrong about your Japanese friend, though.

I can remember when neopdp was supposed to pass Kuro, then it was the 2011 panels, then it was maybe 2012. I enjoy my Panny plasma, so I can't totally be disappointed, but this "better than Kuro" thing has been a long time coming.

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Did I say he didn't live in Japan?

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