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CES 2012 brought the exciting news that Panasonic had redesigned their plasmas drive mechanism. They boasted this would improve black levels and peak brightness.



Panasonic also released the exciting news that its midrange (and value driving) ST series had undergone some dramatic sculpting for a sleek, new design. Gone were the chunky black bezel edges that casted a rather pedestrian look and in were a refined, framed look similar to the GT30.




Some folks with limited wall or cabinet space will lament the quiet death of the smaller mid-range plasmas as Panasonic has put the kibosh on the 42" and 46" ST variants. These were trimmed from the GT lineup last year and the culling continued with the ST50s. Folks looking for a smaller, higher end plasma should look strongly at the TC-P46ST30 and TC-P42ST30 before their dwindling inventory completely evaporates (Panasonic will offer a TC-P42UT50, but the 46" panel has gone the way of the Dodo and free market capitalism discussions in the Oval Office since 2008).

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Panasonic TC-P65ST50 MSRP $2,999
(64.7 inches Measured Diagonally)



Panasonic TC-P60ST50 MSRP $2,099
(60.1 inches Measured Diagonally)



Panasonic TC-P55ST50 MSRP $1,699
(55.1 inches Measured Diagonally)

Panasonic TC-P50ST50 MSRP $1,399
(49.9 inches Measured Diagonally)


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Thread updated. Pricing link removed.
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Anyone see any user reports yet?
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Saw this one report on the TV. Heard it was great for fapping. Really brings out the eyes.
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Comparisons up on Panasonic's website for GT/ST

Major diffs IMO - shades of gradation, 48hz, THX, webcam functions, USB3.0

BTW GT50 MSRP ~$1800 - ETA April/May
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Saw this one report on the TV. Heard it was great for fapping. Really brings out the eyes.

Faptastic?
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I am helping a good friend upgrade most of his family room components. He had ordered and received a 46" LCD/LED because it would fit in his cabinet. After we set it up, he decided he did not like seeing past the TV into the cabinet area and felt a bigger TV that would fit flush and slightly overlap the outside edges of the cabinet space would provide a more eye appealing instal. Turns out the the new Panasonic ST50 is a perfect fit. So he is sending back the 46" LCD and is expecting the ST50 to arrive on Wednesday of this week.

I am expecting this to be a much better solution for him, not only from the install esthetics, but from an overall picture quality and viewing experience. I had just finished doing an install of a GT30 - 55 in another home and have been very impressed with it's performance. My customer was thrilled as well.

Probably won't get it fully up an operational until next weekend but will try to post some detail ASAP.

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Comparisons up on Panasonic's website for GT/ST

Major diffs IMO - shades of gradation, 48hz, THX, webcam functions, USB3.0

BTW GT50 MSRP ~$1800 - ETA April/May
Compare Product

It will be interesting to see how the real-life images differ since they are using the same panel.
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While I like the design of the ST50, the silver stand just doesn't do it for me. Besides, the UT 1080p 3D step down series is cheaper plus it's rocking a black stand.

I'm very curious to hear how the input lag performance is, plus the fluctuating brightness problem....Unless that can be fixed with some sort of firmware update or disableing it in the service menu all together.
Looking for a good 55" 3D Plasma(For movies) & and 3D LED/LCD. The UT seems to fit the bill, if it can deliver low input lag.
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While I like the design of the ST50, the silver stand just doesn't do it for me. Besides, the UT 1080p 3D step down series is cheaper plus it's rocking a black stand.

I'm very curious to hear how the input lag performance is, plus the fluctuating brightness problem....Unless that can be fixed with some sort of firmware update or disableing it in the service menu all together.
Looking for a good 55" 3D Plasma(For movies) & and 3D LED/LCD. The UT seems to fit the bill, if it can deliver low input lag.

Get the ST50 and paint the stand black?
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.....or wall mount it.

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Get the ST50 and paint the stand black?

lol keep in mind i was half a sleep with my previous comment.
I'd rather paint the stand than Wall mount it that's for sure. Still, the UT is more tempting due to it's lower price.
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I am not a fan of the silver stand either. Would love to know why they chose a different color stand (really dumb aesthetic choice IMO). I wonder if the GT50 will have a black stand. Silver stand is what is steering me away from this TV. Sounds crazy, but I want looks and performance.

What kind of paint would you use, and do you think it would look OK painted?
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I am not a fan of the silver stand either. Would love to know why they chose a different color stand (really dumb aesthetic choice IMO). I wonder if the GT50 will have a black stand. Silver stand is what is steering me away from this TV. Sounds crazy, but I want looks and performance.

What kind of paint would you use, and do you think it would look OK painted?

Will be interesting to see if the GT50 is inter-changeable..
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I am a design freak. I realize it sounds insane, but if I am going to spend 1.5k-2k on a TV I want it too look great as well.

It just seems like an odd design choice. How many people buy a black TV frame and wish the stand was silver? I would think they turn off more potential buyers with that decision than they would if it was black frame/black stand.
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I am a design freak. I realize it sounds insane, but if I am going to spend 1.5k-2k on a TV I want it too look great as well.

It just seems like an odd design choice. How many people buy a black TV frame and wish the stand was silver? I would think they turn off more potential buyers with that decision than they would if it was black frame/black stand.

Believe samsung has had silver stands on higher end models for a few years
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lol what.. you think somebody is going to come into your house and say "man that silver stand on your new tv is ugly".

jk.. i would have like a black stand too but when your watching movies in the dark, like i do, you hardly even notice it.


lol Dude, who gives a damn what 'other' people think based on how your TV/place(whatever) looks, it's what YOU like. Some people have a vision or desired look that they want to create, as an artist i'm extremely anal and picky with how things look. The TV's appearance totaly matters to me....Honestly, i think the best looking HDTV design wise was Panasonic's X3.

What i hate especially are the HDTV's with the very thin black baorders, i like them wider for some reason.
Anyways! Ya I'd defnitly spray the stand black....The Silver stand just doesn't do it for me, besides the` 55" 'ST'50 is out of my price range....The 55" 'UT' instead goes for $300 less at $1399 US. Seems like the ST50 has the advantage in black levels and offering more 'pop' with color based on a recent review I checked I out. Yet I can't justify spending $1699 on an HDTV....Even $1399 is a smidge past my budget for the 55" UT.
Could always opt for the 50" ST50 instead,
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Thinking about picking one of these up. My question is, I've never owned a plasma before, so how will i know if my room is to bright ? We use the overhead light all the time in the family room, but it's on a dimmer. I just don't want the bulb to reflect off the screen when i actually do have to turn the light all the way up. How do i know whats to bright without buying the tv, setting it up and waiting to see if i need to return it or not?
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Thinking about picking one of these up. My question is, I've never owned a plasma before, so how will i know if my room is to bright ? We use the overhead light all the time in the family room, but it's on a dimmer. I just don't want the bulb to reflect off the screen when i actually do have to turn the light all the way up. How do i know whats to bright without buying the tv, setting it up and waiting to see if i need to return it or not?
In my personal experience unless the light source is located directly behind set you shouldn't have extreme light reflection. With the ST50 different filters for the screen I have little too no issue with reflection. It is not quite matte, but still performs impressively compared to the average plasma. As for for purchasing an ST50 I can highly recommend doing so, the UT50 has bit more punch in lower light scenarios the ST50 I feel offers better overall performance with better sound quality.
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Just went to beat buy and had to order it. They are own back order so I won't get it until the 13th. For a good deal to at 1609.00 thanks to price matching a random website was having a sale that ended today
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Well just got word that my set should be delivered on the 8th. Quick question, do i need to do the 100-200 hour burn before inputting my calibration settings?
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,,,,,Quick question, do i need to do the 100-200 hour burn before inputting my calibration settings?

No. But the picture will change and improve during the first 100-400(?) hours so you'll have to re-adjust it later.

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Hi all

My 65" arrives tomorrow. Can anyone tell me if it's a 2 or three prong (grounded) plug? Thanks
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My 65" arrives tomorrow. Can anyone tell me if it's a 2 or three prong (grounded) plug? Thanks
The ST50 uses a full 3 prong ground plug.
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Mine arrives tomorrow between 1 and 4. Can't wait to get this bad boy set up
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My 65" ST50 arrives Tuesday. Ordered from Amazon.

I'm a little worried about IR now, after reading the "How many have returned their Panasonics and gotten a Samsung" thread. I don't want to have to wait to watch content. confused.gif

I'm not even sure what 3D glasses to get, but I'm going to hold off until I see whether or not I have to return the set for something else.
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My 65" ST50 arrives Tuesday. Ordered from Amazon.
I'm a little worried about IR now, after reading the "How many have returned their Panasonics and gotten a Samsung" thread. I don't want to have to wait to watch content. confused.gif
I'm not even sure what 3D glasses to get, but I'm going to hold off until I see whether or not I have to return the set for something else.


What I am reading is that IR is extremely rough with the 2012 Panasonics. Just be careful
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My 65" ST50 arrives Tuesday. Ordered from Amazon.
I'm a little worried about IR now, after reading the "How many have returned their Panasonics and gotten a Samsung" thread. I don't want to have to wait to watch content. confused.gif
I'm not even sure what 3D glasses to get, but I'm going to hold off until I see whether or not I have to return the set for something else.

I have had mine over a month now and still enjoying it if I had to purchase again it would be the same.
When you get it out of the box use custom mode and set the picture if you do not have a calibration disc just put in a Sony Blu-Ray Title and punch in 7669 at the beginning of the menu it will give you a few set up screens .
Keep the brightness below 60 and I like to use D-Nice picture settings without slides and enjoy.
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I have had mine over a month now and still enjoying it if I had to purchase again it would be the same.
When you get it out of the box use custom mode and set the picture if you do not have a calibration disc just put in a Sony Blu-Ray Title and punch in 7669 at the beginning of the menu it will give you a few set up screens .
Keep the brightness below 60 and I like to use D-Nice picture settings without slides and enjoy.

I bought the Disney WOW HDTV disc. Also, I work from home, so I have the opportunity during the day to run the slides.
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