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Due to continued panel issues after an exchange, Samsung is refunding my purchase price of $3840 (purchased Oct 2011) for my UN65D8000 LED TV. I'm trying to decide if I should turn around and purchase another one (because I believe it's just about the best LED TV out there in its price range), or purchase a plasma to get better screen uniformity and viewing angles (with little-to-no compromise in color vibrance). My top priority is picture quality. If you had $4000 ($4500 absolute max) to spend on a TV today, which one would it be?
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Due to continued panel issues after an exchange, Samsung is refunding my purchase price of $3840 (purchased Oct 2011) for my UN65D8000 LED TV. I'm trying to decide if I should turn around and purchase another one (because I believe it's just about the best LED TV out there in its price range), or purchase a plasma to get better screen uniformity and viewing angles (with little-to-no compromise in color vibrance). My top priority is picture quality. If you had $4000 ($4500 absolute max) to spend on a TV today, which one would it be?

If you want the best picture quality than plasma is a no brainer and you will save quite a bit of money compared to what you have budgeted.

I'd look at the Samsung D7000/8000 or Panasonic ST/GT/VT based on what others recommend of those models. My 59D7000 has the best picture I've ever seen but I'm debating whether to try to exchange it due to a slight buzz I hear from my seating location.
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Wait for the 2012 Panny's..
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The Samsung plasmas simply are not big enough. Bare minimum size I want is 65".
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Gotcha, just didn't think there was a huge enough difference between 64 and 65.
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Gotcha, just didn't think there was a huge enough difference between 64 and 65.

Well, there is when 65" is my bare minimum.
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Gotcha, just didn't think there was a huge enough difference between 64 and 65.

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You've basically narrowed your options just to Panny plasma (which are awesome sets). I don't think anybody could really tell a difference between a 64" and 65" if they weren't placed sided by side. But hey... if being able to say 'it's a 65 inch' is your top priority then good stuff.
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I'd almost rather have a 70" Sharp vs a 64" Panny plasma.
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Now... 70" vs 64" is probably much more noticeable. I can't say from first hand experience but I'm guessing the plasma is going to have a better picture than Sharp's Spectecularge series.

I did see their 80" TV on Tuesday. That is a large, large TV set.
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I did see their 80" TV on Tuesday. That is a large, large TV set.

If it was 3D-capable, I'd buy it.
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64" Samsung D8000 or the Panasonic 65" VT30. Or if time is not a factor, then as lwright84 said...wait till the 2012's hit the shelves.
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My advice: Either a 65" VT30 plasma or negotiate on a 60" Elite LED. I was a die-hard plasma owner for many years but my new Elite has totally blown me away
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I wouldn't spend that much on a tv, I'd get a nice projector. After spending time with a 130inch screen, all tvs except for the 80+ inch ones look small. And 80inches doesn't really look that big either. The difference between looking at a 65in screen vs a 130in is like comparing a 32in to the 65in.

But if I had to go with direct view for the money. I'd probably go with a 64in samsung plasma, or the biggest led that I could get. I just like that the Samsung has greyscale controls and CMS.

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Current Samsung LEDs are nowhere being the best!... For $4000-$4500, I'd get the Sony XBR-65HX929.

About the BEST LED [ slightly edged by the over priced Sharp Elite ] in the market right now with blacks better than the Panasonic VT30 [ I know, I have both!! ]
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Current Samsung LEDs are nowhere being the best!

I tend to want to discount your opinion based on this statement. They are clearly some of the best.
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Current Samsung LEDs are nowhere being the best!... For $4000-$4500, I'd get the Sony XBR-65HX929.

From what legitimate dealer can you get the Sony for $4500 or less?? My buddy is about to buy this set, and the lowest he can find locally is $4900 + tax.
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From what legitimate dealer can you get the Sony for $4500 or less?? My buddy is about to buy this set, and the lowest he can find locally is $4900 + tax.

Amazon for one.
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I would save some more money and buy the bigger Elite.

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Amazon for one.

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From what legitimate dealer can you get the Sony for $4500 or less?? My buddy is about to buy this set, and the lowest he can find locally is $4900 + tax.

US-Appliance, Amazon, and even some BB B&Ms are negotiating for around $4200 + Tax.

Full Array backlit + Local Dimming [ 177 or so zones ] = Best of the best!

The ONLY Samsung that could ever come close to that PQ was the B8500 [2009 model]. That was the epitome of Samung's LEDs, just like the LH90 was LGs' !
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I tend to want to discount your opinion based on this statement. They are clearly some of the best.


No worries! I don't favor any brand in particular. I buy whatever is worth buying!

If you think Sammys are one of the best, good for you!
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US-Appliance, Amazon, and even some BB B&Ms are negotiating for around $4200 + Tax.

Full Array backlit + Local Dimming [ 177 or so zones ] = Best of the best!

The ONLY Samsung that could ever come close to that PQ was the B8500 [2009 model]. That was the epitome of Samung's LEDs, just like the LH90 was LGs' !

You got your LG's wrong sir. That would be the 55LHX which is still available and still the best.

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You got your LG's wrong sir. That would be the 55LHX which is still available and still the best.

lol.. my apologies, the LHX it is!!
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65VT50

That or an 80" Sharp on sale, which you might be able to swing for under 4 grand

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That's a tough choice......I want to say 82'' Mitsubishi, but the room it would have to go in is not ideal, also the blacks aren't there.
It would either be a 60'' Pioneer Kuro used, or a 65'' Panasonic new......in the end i will probably regret the size and price difference, so Panasonic with nicer Speakers and renovatiions for the bathroom, Xbox360, Shure SRH840, Sennheiser HD-25.

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I tend to want to discount your opinion based on this statement. They are clearly some of the best.

They are notoriously some of the most problem-ridden sets available, especially in a large size (2010's 65C8000 and the current 65D8000 are great examples). 65" and edge-lit simply do not work well. If your top priority is picture quality, then a 65"-er that's edge-lit shouldn't even be a consideration. If you like LED, then a 65HX929 should be a no-brainer; it destroys the D8K. I think even a Sharp 70LE735 would best a D8K in certain areas, if "big" is what you want. A Panasonic 65VT30 is what I would go for, or if you can wait a few months, the 65VT50 has an MSRP of 4000.

Or, have your cake and eat it too. Stretch your budget, and get a Sharp PRO-70X5FD.

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I tend to want to discount your opinion based on this statement. They are clearly some of the best.

The best compared to what? Professional reviews who know a lick of anything and take a true objective approach do not rate the Samsung LED's very highly. They are not the worst by any stretch, but the worse in their price category. I'd take a 729 from Sony over a D7/8000 and save some money to boot.

The whole edge lit with local dimming is all marketing and has become tiresome how they prey on the ill informed.
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I have been looking to upgrade my 58" Panny v10 plasma and was going to preorder the new 2012 65" v10 for 4K. And, i remain committed to plasma TV's only.

But I came to the conclusion that there is no TV worth spending $4K on when the 2011 Panasonic 65" GT30 being closed out now was available to me for almost 50% less than the new VT50. Sure, the vt50 is likely to have superior PQ to the competition (remember that it is not even released and reviewed yet), but once I mount my new GT30, I will most likely never look back.

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If your absolute minimum is a 65", then you might as well look at projectors. Spending $4k on a TV in today's market is simply a waste of money. Get a decent projector, build whatever size screen you want and enjoy the hell out of it.

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Due to continued panel issues after an exchange, Samsung is refunding my purchase price of $3840 (purchased Oct 2011) for my UN65D8000 LED TV. I'm trying to decide if I should turn around and purchase another one (because I believe it's just about the best LED TV out there in its price range), or purchase a plasma to get better screen uniformity and viewing angles (with little-to-no compromise in color vibrance). My top priority is picture quality. If you had $4000 ($4500 absolute max) to spend on a TV today, which one would it be?

What was it about the Sammy that attracted you the most, and what was it that led to your return?

Your goal should be to find whatever attracted you most to the D8000 with the least chance of suffering the problems that led to your return.

You mention that you want little or no sacrifice in "color vibrance" with better screen uniformity.

A plasma will give you all the color vibrance of the original source material. What it won't do is give you the exaggerated "pop" that your outgoing Samsung is capable of and may be what attracted you to that set most in the first place (forgive me if I'm wrong). A plasma is your best bet for screen uniformity and off-angle viewing, however.

If you want maximum "pop" you'll have to go with an LED/LCD. This leaves, imho, two choices within your max budget--The Sony 929 and one of the 70" Sharp 7xx models--the 735 being the only one with 3D capability.

Of those two sets the Sharp will have a little more "pop" but very slightly dim corners, mostly visible only with very bright backgrounds. It will be about 1400 less than the Sony and will do 3D a little better.

The 929 will have the best screen uniformity of the two, with deeper blacks due to it's local dimming (The Sharp is full backlit but without local dimming).

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