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post #301 of 317 Old 09-30-2013, 05:02 AM
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Same model tvs require slightly different settings but u could try

Movie mode
Cell20
Cont90( 85-95
Bright53(47-55
Sharp15(10-40.depends sharpness set on box.
Color47( 47-51
Tint50/50(only varies 1 or 2
Col spc auto
Gamma 0
Warm2- if the skin colors etc. are too red on a lot of shows try lowering red gain about 2-3 and red bias 2-3 in white balance.Warm2 often is a bit too red.skin colors tell a lot about colors..Edit-.If after adjusting it does not look good and it's real dull or green,also Try raise the blue gain1-2,and/or blue bias 1-3.....plasmas look lowsy when thee screens have a lot of white/bright areas.
All extra stuff off

All Eco power saving stuff off

Use native resolution setting on cable box and allow 480p,720p,1080i



*******Edit ps" you will drive yourself crazy trying to adjust the white balance"..even the professionals with thousands of dollars worth of calibration equipment have problems getting plasmas calibrated.i suggest adjusting white balance ONLY if your skin tones look WAY too red(on warm2) with color setting of 50.Or lower flesh tone to -3.
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Edit important to set contrast right or there might be dis coloring in the brightest whites

Best I can come up with.darkroom settings
Cel20
Con92
Brt46-47 or just where dithering starts on black screen
Shp40
Col50-54
Tint 50/50 or 53/47 if skin is too red
Colspc auto
Gam -1
FleshT -2 to -4
Warm2
Noise filt off
All extra stuff off


****White balance note one of the most important adjustment on the tv -if you can't see the difference that one number difference makes when adjusting different rgb gains for various screens your not going too make the tv look any better.Sorry too break the news

*Warm2 is the right setting.On a colorbars pattern with color at zero all the bars should look black and white with a very slight red tone and the white bar lower down should have a slight blue tone.

***bright room settings***
Cel20
Cont92-95
Brt52-55
Shp40
Col50
Tint50/50
Colspc auto
Gamm +1
Warm2
Noisfil off



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I just purchased this Samsung 43" Plasma for my mothers bedroom which is pretty dark. I'm very pleased with it so far. At home I have two Pioneer Plasmas, 1-50" 720P (PDP-5080HD) & 1-60" 1080P (PDP-6020FP) I must admit, For the coin it's a steal. Best Buy has it on sale this week for $349.99 I remember a few years back I went shopping for a 50" plasma & purchased the Samsung FTP-5084 (50" 1080P) & the picture was outstanding, but had to return two of them that had issues within 30 days (bad QC overall) I decided to buy the Pioneer (720P) instead & I'm glad it did. Seems like Samsung has gotten their QC in order as of late. Not one dead pixel so far & I'm super pleased with depth of the video settings menu. I tweaked the video settings based on some of you that posted on this thread (Thank You all BTW) Also the internal speakers aren't that bad at all. I would like to mention, I'm using a Comcast HD box with a HDMI cable & Antenna's Direct "Micron R" indoor antenna & she is picking up a decent amount of OTA channels. Seems like the OTA tuner I pretty strong. I hope that Plasmas will continue to be manufactured, but with Panasonic dropping-out, my bet is Samsung & LG will follow as well.
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Movie mode settings, for movies and TV.

mode; movie
cell light; 20
contrast; 100
brightness; 85
sharpness; 11
color; 81
tint; g28/r72
color space; native
R offset; 21
G offset; 1
B offset; 20
red gain; 50
green gain; 20
blue gain; 50
gamma; +2
dynamic contrast; medium
black tone; off
flesh tone (set while watching tv); 2
color tone; standard
size; screen fit
digital noise filter; off
HDMI black level; low
film mode; off
game mode; off
eco sensor; off

I had the TV for a while now and here's my current movie settings.
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Hello. I am about to purchase this TV for 299$ before tax at a local shop. I have a couple of questions before i make the purchase.

I have heard a lot of complaints in this thread of a buzzing sound. Is there a way to fix that or are the models just defects? I am not sure if I can return this tv after purchase so I am just wondering.

How is this tv for gaming/movies? I will exclusively be using this tv for that. Displaylag.com has this tv has one of the lowest input lag plasma which is great. How does this TV stack up with the panasonic ones of the same year?

One last question. How would I go through calibrating this? I never calibrated anything in my life so this will be a first. Do I connect my laptop and use the lagom? or do I use the avs free one from this forum??? Which one would be better?

Thanks!
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You should buy mine for less that'll $300 😀
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This is a refurb though so its kind of brand new =D
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moved settings below.

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settings moved below

Last edited by forsureman; 09-26-2014 at 03:02 AM. Reason: redid tv settings, left ati and mpc settings.
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Color settings for watching movies on a pc using "mpc classic dvd player".

First the TV settings;

mode; movie
cell light; 20
contrast; 78
brightness; 88
sharpness; 20
color; 54
tint; g48/r52
color space; auto
R offset; 25
G offset; 25
B offset; 25
red gain; 32
green gain; 33
blue gain; 43
gamma; +3
dynamic contrast; medium
black tone; off
flesh tone (set while watching TV); 2
color tone; warm1
size; screen fit
digital noise filter; off
HDMI black level; low
film mode; off
game mode; off
eco sensor; off

Now the ATI settings;

pixel format full rgb
video, basic color, uncheck the Use Application Setting check box

Now the mpc classic settings;
output vmr 9 windowed

If you set the rgb gain low the color and brightness is affected so the screen is dark, so getting the correct rgb using levels for rgb in the calibration disk then adjusting the levels so they are high as they can be makes the picture brighter and so more pretty.

This took me a long time to get fixed up, so if you can use it then I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
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I changed my 32F5005 for the 43E455 instead. Why? Couse I couldn't stand that black whas like grey/purple, and as soon as i was laying down in the couch the color did change. What can i say...? I don't regret that I changed.
But I'm going to use it around 50/50 games/movies. It's no doubt that it's possible to see the step down from 1080p to 720p. Even from the 6ft distance on the 32" set and this set from 8ft. But, even if this isn't as sharp as the 1080p set, it's without doubt sharp. And, things does look more natural. And the most important thing to me, black isn't purple toned gray and changing color depending on where i sit. I would say that the difference in picture is something like LCD vs CRT. This looks alot more CRT like. I like it. Some maybe don't. Think it's a matter of taste.

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For some reason i get "no signal" in Bioshock when using 1080p. =/ Anyway, changed to 1080i, and looks just as good (to me).
Don't know if it's the PS3 or the TV thats a little wierd. I know my PS3 has a slight problem with the GPU (in some games a get green flicker and in a few others...like 3-4 games...i've seen pixel stretching). I can recommend using 1080i/1080p instead of 720p on this set. To me, it looks alot sharper. But, from what i know it's better to downscale then upscale. The 1024 pixels horizontal (instead of 1366) doesn't really makes any difference when watching TV or playing games.

Add: Wierd...changed to 1080p again, and now Bioshock works for some reason. :S Yea yeah, guess i'll run at 1080p then. Looks better than 720p on this set.

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The TV looks nice, but there is no lcd look, it looks different than a lcd which is the only kind of monitor I used before today. It looks nice, just different than lcd does.
Couldn't agree more. I think it looks more like a CRT-TV. Or...it feels more like having a TV in front of your eyes instead of a computer monitor showing TV stuff.

One thing i've noticed is that I can't use pixel shift when i'm using "Screen fit"? :/
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I've noticed that the sound disappears for a few sec when running 1080p with my PS3. Don't know if it's only with PS3 it happens. Can't try anything else. Anyone else recognize this problem? The screen flickers wierd for like one frame or something, and then the sound disappears for 2-4 seconds and returns again. :S Happens every now and then. When i'm using 1080i everything works fine. :S

Add: This is wierd. I turned "Deep Colour" to "Off" instead of "Automatic" and no i'm not getting this wierd audio things at 1080p. :/ Or, havn't gotten it so far after changing. Don't know if it's the PS3 or the TV that's the problem here, but I didn't get the audio screen flicker problem on my other TV. Didn't get it on 720p/1080i either, even if "Deep Colour" was at automatic. But on the other hand, I know that my PS3 has some kind of really small problem with the GPU.

Anyway, the picture is wonderful! Especially watching movies with a lot of dark scenes is a real joy!

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Latest e450 settings
Contrast 95-100 as long as it doesn't turn pink
Bright 47-50
Sharp 30-40 anything lower blurs it too much
Color51(about 50 for auto colorspace)
Tint 50/50
Colorspace native
White balance put screen washer up and made same color as iPad(ipad2 which is too blue) showing a d65 grayscale from google images,but reduced blue(Turns it more yellow) and add more red.bias for darks and gain for brights.
Gamma 0
All the extra stuff turned off

Ycc 444 and native(1080i if theres no native) from box ,and selecting 720p 480p 1080i.

Tried every combination I can

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Latest e450 settings
Contrast 95-100 as long as it doesn't turn pink
Bright 47-50
Sharp 30-40 anything lower blurs it too much
Color51
Tint 50/50
Colorspace native
White balance put screen washer up and made same color as iPad(ipad2 which is too blue) showing a d65 grayscale from google images,but reduced blue(Turns it more yellow) and add more red.bias for darks and gain for brights.
Gamma 0
All the extra stuff turned off

Ycc 444 and native(1080i if theres no native) from box ,and selecting 720p 480p 1080i.

Tried every combination I can
Sharpness 40? Don't you think that's a bit too high? =/ I've noticed that somewhere above 10 i'm getting white edges. Lower, and the image get blurrier. Anyway, i'm using 25 as sharpness right now. Why are u using 1080i? :/ Or can't u use 1080p output?

Btw, have you tried this set with games that doesn't use HD resolution? Josh128 sais that the F4500 is really good for games. I wonder if Wii and that stuff looks just as good on E450. :/
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50 is over sharpened.40 seems about the sweet spot.About 25 seems right on SD and about 40 for HD.Im using native from cablebox.If you don't have native on box then 1080i is the next best one.....I have not tried any games on it.
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