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Anyone Try out the new Samsung glasses on there st?
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Anyone Try out the new Samsung glasses on there st?

I ended up ordering the official panasonic 2012 glasses, even though they are expensive - I read somewhere that the samsungs possibly go out of sync at times
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I finally reached the 100 hours and changed the settings. This set looks awesome. Definitely brighter than the st30 as you could see more detail in the darker areas. The line on the right side is not noticeable and the buzzing obviously goes away when you're watching a movie. You could still hear it when a white colored or bright shot showed up in the movie.

I did notice some IR when I started my ps3. The warning before using, product information etc. It did go away quickly but the warning itself isn't on the screen too long. Hope it's not too much of a problem as my old st30 didn't show any signs of IR so quickly.
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I'm getting "loud" (I'm guessing this is relative) buzzing on my ST50, the brighter/whiter the screen is. It's most notable when running prep slides (loud on white, almost nonexistent on red, for example).

Is this normal? I don't have much experience with Plasmas, so I don't know if this is something I should take my set back for.
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disclaimer: I'm a total newb too.

that said, from what I've read many times here, that sounds (har har) totally normal.
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I'm getting "loud" (I'm guessing this is relative) buzzing on my ST50, the brighter/whiter the screen is. It's most notable when running prep slides (loud on white, almost nonexistent on red, for example).

Is this normal? I don't have much experience with Plasmas, so I don't know if this is something I should take my set back for.

Completely normal. I'll warn you, however, that you will get a reply along the lines of: "I don't get any buzz even while watching hockey on vivid through an arrangement of large mirrors as I have my head duck taped to the back of the set in order to prove to you that plasmas don't in fact buzz."

Plasmas buzz. My old 46" Panasonic wasn't audible because it was built like a Sherman tank and the buzz was nicely insulated by the TWO panes of glass and I suspect any other buzz was drowned out by the bank of fans arranged across the top. The skinnier and smaller these things get the more audible the buzz seems to be. I wouldn't worry about it-- it just means your sound isn't turned up enough!

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Also a newbe but wanted to post a data point for those who might have been wondering whether their set was normal or not. The caveats to put my comments in perspective, this is my first plasma indeed my first HD panel I've personally owned (but certainly not the first I've viewed extensively). I also have very slight hearing loss and a touch of tinnitus in the left ear so I might not have the world's most sensitive hearing anymore.

Buzzing - My 55ST50 (February build date) has about 150-200 hours on it now, and I can detect NO buzzing unless I literally put my ear between the back of the set and the wall (tilting wall mount leaves about a 3" gap).

Heat - never a problem but does seem very sensitive to room ambient. When room temps are down in the low 70's I can barely detect heat from the panel until I'm less than a few inches away and even that is miniscule. Couple of warm days we had a few weeks back with room temps in the high 70's pushing 80 and it definitely felt warmer - enough that you could pick up heat a foot or more away. It's been cooler since so not sure if what I see now has anything to do with break-in time or room temps but very little heat recently.

Not a huge hockey fan but I did watch the (sad) Penguins playoff games and I could clearly see the syncronized arena strobes going off when play neared a net BUT there was no residual blackout or light level changes. I'm not precisely sure I'm understanding what is being refernenced in the discussions on that issue but it certainly nothing happens on mine that seems out of line. I've also seen NO cases where light levels shift on their own as scenes lighten etc (CATS off)

Zero issues with any odd panel artifacts - lines, blobs, tints etc, during the run of D-Nice's slides (I did try that approach) or since. The panel is as consistent edge to edge as anything I've ever seen.

In fact zero issues with this panel of any kind - except it looks like the SD card slot is non-functional. The only card I have of that form factor (2GB) works fine with my digital frame, AND works fine in the SD slot of the Panny BDT320 I bought with the ST50, but the ST50 does not seem to recognize it. (Not a file format problem, it doesn't even see a card present). It works fine with a USB stick though (which I used for the slides) and I could really care less otherwise on the SD slot. Just a curiousity. (Quick FYI on the 320 - zero problems there and it's quiet)

On streaming - sadly I cannot get much of an internet connection so even Netflix rarely rises above SD/Medium but overall streaming has been fine and only once did I notice any audio sync issue and that went away the next time I viewed anything.

Overall I'm very pleased with this choice and am constantly blown away by the image without regard to price, and especially happy with the results at this price point, particularly the subtle tonality and rendering of fabrics and surfaces (using D-Nice's settings for now on the HDMI input, a tick more contrast/brightess for OTA 1080i signals). The blu-ray of "Quigley Down Under" for example shows rendering of the old clothing fabrics used and leathers that is amazing.

Just the ramblings of a new owner, but hopefully useful for anyone 'wondering' about some anomaly on their panel they're perplexed over.
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wridge than you so very much. I was already set on getting one of these. your post is super helpful and useful to me.

first decent sale, I will buy a 55". and do the D-nice slides.

it will be my first flat screen tv. and first plasma. super looking forward to it.

I know I'm gonna love it. the 55" that I checked out a few weeks ago at BB was awesome.
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Hey all - I just got a ST50 and I'm putting it through its paces and checking out settings. I'm not running slides but I am keeping brightness low and mixing up content. Even in the crappy standard mode settings the Disney WOW Visions disc looks awesome.

One question - is there a way to make sure I have "IFC" turned off? If I put it in game mode, is it definitely off? Thanks!
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On streaming - sadly I cannot get much of an internet connection so even Netflix rarely rises above SD/Medium but overall streaming has been fine and only once did I notice any audio sync issue and that went away the next time I viewed anything.

I am pleased to report that netflix streams in medium/HD and 5.1 dolby digital with the optical out (on certain shows) via wireless on my lowly 3mpbs DSL connection. Very pleased with the netflix app.
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In fact zero issues with this panel of any kind - except it looks like the SD card slot is non-functional. The only card I have of that form factor (2GB) works fine with my digital frame, AND works fine in the SD slot of the Panny BDT320 I bought with the ST50, but the ST50 does not seem to recognize it. (Not a file format problem, it doesn't even see a card present). It works fine with a USB stick though (which I used for the slides) and I could really care less otherwise on the SD slot.

Did you mean that you really couldN'T care less? . But to be honest, you paid for a set that advertises a feature and regardless whether or not you couldn't care less if it works or not you're entitled to have a TV that works. It's up to you but I would at least go to a nearby electronics store that carry's the ST50 and try your SD card in one of the demos just to be sure your TV isn't defective. No need to give Panasonic good money and settle for a set with an obvious defect. If your card doesn't work in the store demo then it could be just that particular card that the ST50 isn't compatible with. It's best to know.
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wridge,

What are the exact file extentions on the SD card?

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Is there any option to turn the red power light off on the front of the TV ? I find it distracting in the dark

I found this at the TiVo series4 Premiere thread by a member named Charles R. Since this is my first post I cannot provide the link but if you visit "lightdims dot com" they have removable covers that cut down or completely block out the led lights. They are available at Fry's and Micro Center according to their website. I have to state that I have not personally tried them so I cannot verify their effectiveness but it seems to work for Charles R.
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My 2GB microSD card does not seem to work in the TV either?!?

I just have jpeg images on it from my nikon camera and it's formatted as FAT32. Anyone else having issues?

EDIT: I just tried a 16GB card and it worked fine.

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Did you mean that you really couldN'T care less? . But to be honest, you paid for a set that advertises a feature and regardless whether or not you couldn't care less if it works or not you're entitled to have a TV that works. It's up to you but I would at least go to a nearby electronics store that carry's the ST50 and try your SD card in one of the demos just to be sure your TV isn't defective. No need to give Panasonic good money and settle for a set with an obvious defect. If your card doesn't work in the store demo then it could be just that particular card that the ST50 isn't compatible with. It's best to know.

Plus you might need that port someday for a firmware update I think I read that others have had to use it.
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Hi all proud new owner of a 55" ST50!! Very pleased with the tv spear it's replacing my pioneer 5080hd.

Question for everyone about 3d glasses... Do these work with the Panasonic tvs? samsung ssg-3050gb http://m.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-ac...s/SSG-3050GB/Z
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Hi all proud new owner of a 55" ST50!! Very pleased with the tv spear it's replacing my pioneer 5080hd.

Question for everyone about 3d glasses... Do these work with the Panasonic tvs? samsung ssg-3050gb http://m.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-ac...s/SSG-3050GB/Z

How does it compare to your old tv?
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Hi all proud new owner of a 55" ST50!! Very pleased with the tv spear it's replacing my pioneer 5080hd.

Question for everyone about 3d glasses... Do these work with the Panasonic tvs? samsung ssg-3050gb http://m.samsung.com/us/video/tvs-ac...s/SSG-3050GB/Z

I'd like to know if they work with the tv too.. They are much cheaper then Panasonic 3d glasses.. I would get them as extras if they do work. Panasonic should lower the price of it's 3d glasses so people can get more and be able to afford glasses for the whole family. If Samsung is able to sell it's 3d glasses at such a price then Panasonic should be able to do so.
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How does it compare to your old tv?

+1

I'm thinking of upgrading my 5080 to a 60".
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I'm still trying to get things Settled in the basement is a mess after removing the 5080 and having to add new high speed hdmi cables... Once I get things settled in I'll let you guys know! Hopefully by tomorrow evening we'll throw a favorite blu ray on for comparison. Probably Kung fu panda or puss in boots lol
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As far as the glasses go I believe this model is a 2011 model # and I've heard only 2012 glasses work with the new panasonics but then again these are Bluetooth glasses

I just dunno!
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I'm still trying to get things Settled in the basement is a mess after removing the 5080 and having to add new high speed hdmi cables... Once I get things settled in I'll let you guys know! Hopefully by tomorrow evening we'll throw a favorite blu ray on for comparison. Probably Kung fu panda or puss in boots lol

Okay, thanks.

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Zero issues with any odd panel artifacts - lines, blobs, tints etc, during the run of D-Nice's slides (I did try that approach) or since. The panel is as consistent edge to edge as anything I've ever seen.

Thanks for your impressions. It's comments like this about their screen however that make me wonder if

a) anybody who is having an issue with a faint line on the right of the screen should think about an exchange since it's not on all sets

or

b) some people just aren't noticing the line because it's very faint, and it is on all sets due to the way they manufacture these sets

Again, the line I've noticed is indeed very hard to see - it's almost not there. But then again, why should I pay for a set with a line, no matter now faint, across the entire screen when others paid the same amount and don't have any line at all? I just hate the thought that for the price of this set it has a screen defect like some others have mentioned.

Actually, I'm more tempted to believe b - it seems unlikely that I happened to get a set with a rare issue like the line that some notice. Being so faint, I'm more likely to believe that it's just not noticeable by many. I like that better actually because that means my set is fine and that's just how they are made. It's better than the alternative.

No offense to those who don't see it - it's just my experience like another issue I noticed a short while ago that just got resolved regarding a media player - it stuttered when playing 23.976 material, but most people in the forum claimed theirs didn't stutter. The rep finally said that all the units did that and they have since been fixed with a new framerate - but many on that thread swore that they didn't have the stutter, even though they all did in fact have it.

It would be nice to know one way or the other if this line is normal or if it is something that is only on some sets - that would put an end to wondering if it's something to worry about.
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I'd like to know if they work with the tv too.. They are much cheaper then Panasonic 3d glasses.. I would get them as extras if they do work. Panasonic should lower the price of it's 3d glasses so people can get more and be able to afford glasses for the whole family. If Samsung is able to sell it's 3d glasses at such a price then Panasonic should be able to do so.

While I do agree with you that the price of 3G glasses is insane to say the least there is a major difference between the active shutter Samsung's and the Panasonic's. The Samsung's are cheaper because they are battery operated and Panasonic only sells rechargeable glasses which is why they are much more expensive. Personally I would prefer to have battery operated glasses so I never have to worry about the glasses becoming useless once the charging cells begin to have a shortened life.

One other thing to note, the new Panasonic glasses (which only work with the 2012 Panasonic TV's) have a quick charge feature that can charge up to 80% in about 30 minutes. Other rechargeable glasses take several hours. I bought mine on Amazon for a good deal. Not sure if the Sammy's work on the Panny TV's but I would recommend just buying the Panny's for best results in regards to syncing to reduce any chances of crosstalk.
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I agree that I'd prefer to have battery-operated glasses myself for the same reason you mention. Once the built-in rechargeable battery loses its ability to charge, the glasses are worthless. The Samsungs could last far longer than the Panasonics because you will always be able to just buy more CR2025 batteries (for the foreseeable future anyways until they stop making them, which is not likely to happen any time soon).

I do think the Panasonic glasses are nicer though. I just wish they had a battery-operated version vs. the rechargeable ones.
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