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Yes those Bright Pops do look like the Camera making Sudden changes in exposure but they are not there on other TV's with the same material. I am a big fan of 3D and seen rather a lot on the D6900 here in the UK but i have Never seen one Bright Scene pop with 3D to date. Its an odd one no doubt and i think would be very simple to fix, Trouble is getting a decent Sammy engineer to actually see and log the issue on a set then report back to Samsung.

I guesse i could have been clearer, What i thought i saw was the TV cameras filming the game picking up people in the crowd using there camera flashes. And of course what i thought was the pixel shift being on. I never noticed these thing on my C7000, And i dont think i'm seeing what are the brightness pops. so not really sure. What i do know is.i was early in buying my C7000 and it was alittle funky in the begining intill firmware fixes started rolling in. then was great till it died.
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Katzmaier's hand's on with gesture and voice control on CNET is classic and paints the picture perfectly on just how smart this TV is - not. Don't just watch the video - be sure to read the article also. I believe he was ready to gesture control (punch) the TV! Again, I appreciate the effort by Samsung by trying to move technology forward but damn, this stuff is BETA to the max. I still can't get the IR blaster to work for my Direct TV box. It would have been great if Samsung would have just included a remote with built in Keyboard on the back.

Finally had to actually turn voice control off. People talking on my answering machine were turning the TV on. My kid playing the harmonica had all kinds of menus opening...then to top it all off I'm on the couch with the wife watching TV and I go in for a discrete nose pick and the gesture control kicks on and the mouse cursor starts following my every move totally blowing my cover! Busted! I guess now it's time to turn gesture control off! Looks like my e8000 has just officially been demoted to an e7000 since I have to turn all the futuristic options off. Shoot...I can't even get mad any more over the upgrade because of all the laughs this thing has provided in the first week!

The picture is still awesome and I'm looking forward to much more professional reviews and calbiration settings but I do hope you enjoyed my story!

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I recently renovated our entire family room and have this baby up on the wall. She is a beauty and far the best picture I have seen out of any plasma display. Sports look simply amazing, even soccer!

The only problem I am having is that every hour or so the unit shuts off and on by itself. All of my Eco /energy saving options are off so hopefully it is just a firmware issue and an update will resolve this problem. I will try this tonight and report back. Anyone else having this issue?
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Here's my 64E7000.

Thanks for the pics! Looks great!
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I recently renovated our entire family room and have this baby up on the wall. She is a beauty and far the best picture I have seen out of any plasma display. Sports look simply amazing, even soccer!

The only problem I am having is that every hour or so the unit shuts off and on by itself. All of my Eco /energy saving options are off so hopefully it is just a firmware issue and an update will resolve this problem. I will try this tonight and report back. Anyone else having this issue?

Check the timers in the system menu under time...there is on/off settings in there.. May help.
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Thanks for the pics! Looks great!

Thanks, Was gonna post some better ones when i get the time.
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Check the timers in the system menu under time...there is on/off settings in there.. May help.

I will double check tonight, but I believe all those settings are off. I will also post some pics of her mounted on a dual articulating arm bracket. Looks amazing! Hopefully I will not need a new set. Also, no buzz at all. Just this friggin on/off thing.
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so your c7000 only lasted two years

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I guesse i could have been clearer, What i thought i saw was the TV cameras filming the game picking up people in the crowd using there camera flashes. And of course what i thought was the pixel shift being on. I never noticed these thing on my C7000, And i dont think i'm seeing what are the brightness pops. so not really sure. What i do know is.i was early in buying my C7000 and it was alittle funky in the begining intill firmware fixes started rolling in. then was great till it died.

so your c7000 only lasted two years. i have a pn50c7000 its still going strong and that scares me. but i want to upgrade and get a pn60e8000 so how did your tv die??????????? what is your picture quality compared to the c7000 do you think it's worth it or should i wait i just want a bigger screen

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so your c7000 only lasted two years. i have a pn50c7000 its still going strong and that scares me. but i want to upgrade and get a pn60e8000 so how did your tv die??????????? what is your picture quality compared to the c7000 do you think it's worth it or should i wait i just want a bigger screen

heh, i think most of the people in here so far have replacements, Mine didnt really die,but it did get these thick pinkish lines across the screen. To be really honest i dont see a real difference. maybe better blacks. when i first got this tv i was unhappy with the picture but at the same time there was not even 100 hrs on it.. now there is, I think my C7000 may had shown a bit more detail. But who knows its been over a week now since it was carted away and the memory fades.. I would not upgrade just to upgrade. not worth it. but for a bigger set, thats different
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heh, i think most of the people in here so far have replacements, Mine didnt really die,but it did get these thick pinkish lines across the screen. To be really honest i dont see a real difference. maybe better blacks. when i first got this tv i was unhappy with the picture but at the same time there was not even 100 hrs on it.. now there is, I think my C7000 may had shown a bit more detail. But who knows its been over a week now since it was carted away and the memory fades.. I would not upgrade just to upgrade. not worth it. but for a bigger set, thats different

i have a un46d8000 as well as the pn50c7000 the only reason i got the 46inch was i couldnt believe the price from amazon. payed under $1300 in the amazon warehouse deals used like new i took a chance and bought it. it came in and was brand new and the only thing i could see was one corner of the shipping box was dented in. the picture on this set is great but at that time i was shopping for the pn60d8000 now i still want to replace my plasma with a bigger one so im trying to justify to myself if it worth it. how is the 3d on the pnxxe8000 compared to your old c7000.
the 3d on my un46d8000 is amazing compared to the c7000 so im hoping the samething is true for the e8000????????

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i have a un46d8000 as well as the pn50c7000 the only reason i got the 46inch was i couldnt believe the price from amazon. payed under $1300 in the amazon warehouse deals used like new i took a chance and bought it. it came in and was brand new and the only thing i could see was one corner of the shipping box was dented in. the picture on this set is great but at that time i was shopping for the pn60d8000 now i still want to replace my plasma with a bigger one so im trying to justify to myself if it worth it. how is the 3d on the pnxxe8000 compared to your old c7000.
the 3d on my un46d8000 is amazing compared to the c7000 so im hoping the samething is true for the e8000????????

I went from 63C7000 to 64E7000 But the 3d does really work way better, On C model i had alot of ghosting and was kinda worthless, I have not watched much on the E, but what i have watched looked great. no ghosting and was nice and bright. the 2d to 3d even worked pretty good i thought.
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Wrassie, what did the thick pinkish line turn out to be. My sisters 58C8000 has this too.......running across the screen, especially visible on white and lighter colors. Her tv is still under warranty for two years more...I was wondering if it was the same issue and if it was something that could be
repaired or not.

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Hey there experts. Was checking out the PN64E8000 at Paul's TV, and the salesman said that the dual core processor of the 8000 would allow for better streaming of Netflix, Vudu, etc., than on the single core PN64E7000. Any truth to this? I thought the dual core was simply to process all the ridiculous motion command stuff, which I couldn't care less about.
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I don't know what he means by "better", I can currently stream VUDU at 1080P on my single processor D8000 and I can't imagine how it could look any better.
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Dual processors will speed up everything when streaming and surfing on the net. The single browser on the D8000 is painful. Then, as the ads for the tvs say, you can do two things at once instead of one at a time.
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He was asking about the quality of the stream from either netflix or vudu. A dual processor will not change any aspect of that quality. You are correct that it will speed up web browsing and navigation if that is important to you.
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I will double check tonight, but I believe all those settings are off. I will also post some pics of her mounted on a dual articulating arm bracket. Looks amazing! Hopefully I will not need a new set. Also, no buzz at all. Just this friggin on/off thing.

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All settings were in fact off, however, I uploaded the new firmware and, voila, it fixed the problem! So happy I didn't have to return this beast! I will upload some pics in a new post.
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As I mentioned in my previous post, I just renovated my family room which is (12x20 with 16 ft ceilings. The room is an extension to the house and gets very bright during the day time as there are 2 skylights and a sliding glass door. Plasma was def the way to go. Previously in the same room and on the same bracket, I had a PN58C550 and just upgraded to the PN64E8000. The bracket is a double articulating arm which swivels and adjusts in every direction. I needed this due to the shape and seating layout of the room.

I posted some pics below that i took with my Blackberry last night, although they do not do justice. I am still tweaking my settings and waiting for my media console to arrive (hence the little snack table, lol)

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As I mentioned in my previous post, I just renovated my family room which is (12x20 with 16 ft ceilings. The room is an extension to the house and gets very bright during the day time as there are 2 skylights and a sliding glass door. Plasma was def the way to go. Previously in the same room and on the same bracket, I had a PN58C550 and just upgraded to the PN64E8000. The bracket is a double articulating arm which swivels and adjusts in every direction. I needed this due to the shape and seating layout of the room.

I posted some pics below that i took with my Blackberry last night, although they do not do justice. I am still tweaking my settings and waiting for my media console to arrive (hence the little snack table, lol)

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are the HDMI connections on the right or left side when facing the front of the TV and is HDMI 2 ARC

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are the HDMI connections on the right or left side when facing the front of the TV and is HDMI 2 ARC

when facing the tv, hdmi's are on the left and I believe 2 is ARC
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He was asking about the quality of the stream from either netflix or vudu. A dual processor will not change any aspect of that quality. You are correct that it will speed up web browsing and navigation if that is important to you.

Thanks Zoyd. Indeed, I was wondering about video quality, which I'm assuming (either rightly or wrongly) depends more on the bitrate of your internet connection than your TV's processor speed, which is why I was confused. But now that you mention it, would Netflix and Vudu apps/content load faster with a dual core? I ask only to see if there's ANY advantage at all to having a dual core, if you're not planning on using motion control or face recognition.

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Has anyone tried the following TweakTV settings?


http://www.tweaktv.com/tweak-my-tv/c...8000-copy.html
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when facing the tv, hdmi's are on the left and I believe 2 is ARC

thank you i was just checking i have a pn50c700 and they are on the left so when i replace it with a pn60e8000 (all is good) no rerouting of wires.

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Thanks Zoyd. Indeed, I was wondering about video quality, which I'm assuming (either rightly or wrongly) depends more on the bitrate of your internet connection than your TV's processor speed, which is why I was confused. But now that you mention it, would Netflix and Vudu apps/content load faster with a dual core? I ask only to see if there's ANY advantage at all to having a dual core, if you're not planning on using motion control or face recognition.

Thanks again.

Sure, any user interface function (TV menus, app menus, browser, navigation within apps, etc.) is going to run faster with the extra CPU power if designed properly. The quality of the streams, really any input source in general, is determined by the bitrate of the data and will not be "enhanced" by having further CPU processing. In fact, extra processing of the input source can have negative effects. The Local Contrast Enhancer (LCE) of the D8000 series is a prime example. This is enabled through a special dedicated processing chip not found on the D7's and lower, but it generates an unnatural effect (IMO) when actually engaged.
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I'm assuming you already applied the fix? It didn't work for you? My D7000 has no brightness pops after the fix was applied.

The only "issue" I have with the set is the ABL kicking in during hockey games which can be kind of annoying.

I can't apply the fix because I had already updated past the fix before I realized there was a fix. So now I'm stuck. It's under warranty from Samsung and Best Buy still so I don't want to do anything that would void the warranty.
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I can't apply the fix because I had already updated past the fix before I realized there was a fix. So now I'm stuck. It's under warranty from Samsung and Best Buy still so I don't want to do anything that would void the warranty.

You can apply the logic board update over any firmware version to reduce near black fluctuations.

The E series does not have this problem and initial measurements (from Adrian S) show also that it's blacks do not float, the D series blacks float with APL.
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Wrassie, what did the thick pinkish line turn out to be. My sisters 58C8000 has this too.......running across the screen, especially visible on white and lighter colors. Her tv is still under warranty for two years more...I was wondering if it was the same issue and if it was something that could be
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Thanks

That sounds like the same issue and the same thing mine did, Many people on here have/ had the same problem. i would call to get it fixed, norm is to replace the screen or tv.
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Hey there experts. Was checking out the PN64E8000 at Paul's TV, and the salesman said that the dual core processor of the 8000 would allow for better streaming of Netflix, Vudu, etc., than on the single core PN64E7000. Any truth to this? I thought the dual core was simply to process all the ridiculous motion command stuff, which I couldn't care less about.
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The PN64E7000 is a dual core.. So he was wrong there.
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POp Pop pOp! does anyone else have these brightness pops on thier e8000?

Hockey is unwatchable.

Has anyone heard about a fix from Samsung for this?
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