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With This television now bein available I wanted to get and owners thread started soo people can get started sharing thoughts for this television..............





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they don't have the same filter...
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The E6500 is closer to E7000/8000 than E550 I think

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I want to know a few things:
Is ABL (Auto Brightness Limiter) as extreme as D series Samsung plasmas? On a D6900 it was very bad, white scenes were getting dimmed too much...
How bad is shimmering, fuzziness and flickering?
Are blacks much improved?
Any improvements on IR?
Power consumption?

ok that's all the question i could think of right now
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Step right up, don't be bashful now boys as we are looking forward to hearing peoples thoughts especially for the 6500 and i am sure someone registered here owns one of the two televisions listed here............... Pics, Thoughts ...???
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the e6500 should be in the e7/8000 thread, it's got the same filtering.
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I agree afaik e6500 has the same filters as e7000/e8000...only thing it doesn't have is the dual core CPU and that affects smart hub and apps only not PQ.
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I agree afaik e6500 has the same filters as e7000/e8000...only thing it doesn't have is the dual core CPU and that affects smart hub and apps only not PQ.

Actually the dual core processor does have an effect on PQ at least it does on the LED models. The micro dimming ultimate uses software algorithms to analyze the picture and control the dimming. It does it in real time and needs the more powerful processor to run the software properly to utilize the new ultimate dimming. I'm sure the dual core processor can be used for picture processing on the plasmas too to increase PQ.
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Received my E6500 today. So far there is noticeable buzzing, becoming louder with higher contrast images. It's loud enough to hear with the TV sound on normal volume levels. I also tested out the 3D, and while it's very smooth there is some crosstalk on both Comcast 3D OnDemand and 3D Bluray. Playing around with the settings and letting it run for awhile to see if any of this diminishes before I decide if I want to send it back.
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Don't know how accurate Amazon's product listings are, but they show the "Real Black Panel" as a feature on ALL of their 2012 plasma lineup - with only the E8000 also having a "Clear Image Panel."

Gee - seems like a Clear Image ought to be a requirement for ANY HDTV!

In fact - again, JUST looking at the Amazon chart - there does not appear to be a whole lot to distinguish between any of the top 4 2012 Samsung plasmas.

FWIW, saw a blurb on the E550 that stated: "Another feature is the Real Black Filter for "blacker" blacks, which was a standard on previous premium line TVs."

(from www.pn60e550.com)
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Received my E6500 today. So far there is noticeable buzzing, becoming louder with higher contrast images.


Disappointing to hear about BUZZING - that is something we've not had "problems" with.

At the same time, our latest panel (60" Pan) will Buzz on some of the Brighter Break-in Slides - but nothing that we've notice with normal program material.
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FWIW, saw a blurb on the E550 that stated: "Another feature is the Real Black Filter for "blacker" blacks, which was a standard on previous premium line TVs."

All of them get the "Real Black Filter". Now the top ones get the "Real Black Pro"
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I'm set to take delivery on a PN51E6500 on 3/27. I'm a casual user and a plasma newbie...what's the best way to calibrate this TV? Thanks!
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I'm set to take delivery on a PN51E6500 on 3/27. I'm a casual user and a plasma newbie...what's the best way to calibrate this TV? Thanks!

Do you own a meter?

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Do you own a meter?

No I don't. Is there a calibration DVD that you would suggest? I was hoping to find a calibration thread, but it may be too soon for this model.
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No I don't. Is there a calibration DVD that you would suggest? I was hoping to find a calibration thread, but it may be too soon for this model.

You can download the 709 from this forum. Free

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the e6500 should be in the e7/8000 thread, it's got the same filtering.

I know.... some people just don't get it.
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i know.... Some people just don't get it.

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the e6500 should be in the e7/8000 thread, it's got the same filtering.

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What i have done is take the E550 out of this thread and created a seperate thread for that television,

with that bein said The 6500 series television is much better bein in a different thread then the 7000 - 8000 series because once that thread gets goin faster as more owners get chiming in, ( obviously more people in that thread will be talking bout the 7000 - 8000 over the 6500 ) most of the less talked bout scattered info on the 6500 series will lost in the thread and be more difficult to find easily and this single thread will make for 6500 owners to discuss this television without sifting through all the info on the 7000 - 8000 series soo have fun
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No I don't. Is there a calibration DVD that you would suggest? I was hoping to find a calibration thread, but it may be too soon for this model.

In the Calibration forum I've seen the Disney WOW disk recommended for those that don't have a meter.
Of course a professional calibration is money well spent IMO

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I know.... some people just don't get it.

e550 has same filter as e6500 so if ur using the fact that e6500 has same filter as e7000/e8000 than e550 6500 7000 8000 should all be in same thread then.
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e550 has same filter as e6500 so if ur using the fact that e6500 has same filter as e7000/e8000 than e550 6500 7000 8000 should all be in same thread then.

That is incorrect. E550 real black filter. E6500 real black filter pro

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E6500 real black filter pro

How do you know that? If this tv has the same contrast as the e8000, it would be an amazing buy. I could care less about all the smart tv stuff. I have seen the e8000, which looked great, not this one though, yet.
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How do you know that? If this tv has the same contrast as the e8000, it would be an amazing buy. I could care less about all the smart tv stuff. I have seen the e8000, which looked great, not this one though, yet.

I know that because I own one

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How do you know that? If this tv has the same contrast as the e8000, it would be an amazing buy. I could care less about all the smart tv stuff. I have seen the e8000, which looked great, not this one though, yet.

And so says the spec sheets from Samsung...

E6500 specs
E550 specs
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How do you know that? If this tv has the same contrast as the e8000, it would be an amazing buy. I could care less about all the smart tv stuff. I have seen the e8000, which looked great, not this one though, yet.



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" All Samsung Plasma TVs will have Samsung's proprietary Real Black Filter, previously only available in premium models, to deliver improved black levels and color contrast. In the higher-end E6500, E7000 and E8000 models, Samsung will incorporate the new Real Black Pro to deliver even better black levels. The technology has an unprecedented ability to absorb external light reflections through an increased wedge depth, which leads to blacker" blacks, more-realistic pictures and higher color contrast. "
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The technology has an unprecedented ability to absorb external light reflections through an increased wedge depth

Hmm - sounds a lot like the "louvered filter" Pan introduced with their 2011 models.

Also interested in the distinction between E550 and E6500 -- as contingent replacements for a 60" ST30 with Green & Pink Tinting. (Although am intrigued by the new LG panels as well....)
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Hmm - sounds a lot like the "louvered filter" Pan introduced with their 2011 models.

Also interested in the distinction between E550 and E6500 -- as contingent replacements for a 60" ST30 with Green & Pink Tinting. (Although am intrigued by the new LG panels as well....)

Samsung also had the filter last year.

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I wanted to update everyone on my PN51E6500 that I was pretty hasty on criticizing after I first got it. I've been running content on it for a little over 80 hours now, with only running slides while I'm not watching it. I've actually noticed a decrease in the buzzing during normal content viewing. In 3D mode, the buzzing is still very prominent and can be heard over all but loud scenes. I also picked up the Disney WOW calibration bluray and ran it yesterday. This helped me fix several of the problems I was having with the 3D picture.

I had the TV in 16x9 viewing mode, when it should have been on Screen Fit. When it was in 16x9, it actually distorted and cropped off some of the image, so when I viewed 3D content it didn't align up perfectly. The 1920x1080 single pixel checkerboard pattern was awesome in helping me correct this and to adjust my HTPC display properly so I could view 3D content through XBMC as well. Keeping 3D Perspective set at 0 also helped.

I have noticed a little image retention after leaving it on Animal Planet over night, the logo in the corner stuck around for a few minutes. I was also going through the Comcast OnDemand menu for about 20 minutes one night and it stuck around for a minute. Both times, it quickly vanished by just watching normal content. I also have one pixel in the middle of the screen that won't display the color red. I tried the Disney WOW pixel flipper, but that didn't help it.

Other than a lack of buzzing, the only two things I wish this TV had would be the Amazon VOD app (although, I have this on my HTPC) and audio out through the HDMI. That way I could hear the sound from the SmartHub apps through my AVR. I believe the only way to do this is with an optical cable. I'm still deciding if I'm going to keep the E6500, or try and exchange it, but other than the buzzing it's an awesome TV. The picture, after just calibrating it myself, is nothing short of amazing.
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Sorry to hear about your buzzing. Just seems they could build plasmas by now that don't buzz! I had the 46hx929 but returned it and been thinking plasmas but it just seems like the all buzz! The TV will be in my bedroom and even a low buzz is going to be noticeable! Been checking the st50 thread and they buzz to it seems. Been looking at the e6500, e7000, e550 and the st50. Maybe I'll wait and see what anybody has to say about the LG's?
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