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That would be nice but I am very disappointed with the Panasonic Quality Control that let such an expensive unit out without checking. Also, the phone jungle that I had to go through to get someone to address the issue was a nightmare. I hope other people do not experience the problem I have with this unit.
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I am considering the purchase of a gt50, but I'm looking for some input. I currently have a 50px80u which I have no complaints about, beside the fact that it is located in a bright room and during the day I get washout. I've read all the reviews, but I'd like to get some real world impressions. Anyone have opinions about the difference between the sets in a bright environment and overall viewing quality , or should I just go for LED? Thanks!
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Does any one see any PQ improvements when it comes to 3D compared to the not so good ST50 3D picture quality? How does it handle crosstalk and ghosting?

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I am considering the purchase of a gt50, but I'm looking for some input. I currently have a 50px80u which I have no complaints about, beside the fact that it is located in a bright room and during the day I get washout. I've read all the reviews, but I'd like to get some real world impressions. Anyone have opinions about the difference between the sets in a bright environment and overall viewing quality , or should I just go for LED? Thanks!

While I've never seen the 50PX80U in person I can say that I personally own the 55GT50 which I just received a week ago. Firstly I bought a Samsung UN55D7000 LED which was my first HDTV. It was very bright in the stores which was the selling factor for me as Plasmas always seemed much darker. I didn't care for the lack of viewing angles or the problems with edge-lit LED's in terms of the flashlight corners or clouding so I returned it and went shopping again and saw the Panasonic ST50 and GT50 models. They were the only TV's in the stores that could handle the bright lights without issue.
I even saw the GT50 in the middle of my local mall that had a window in the ceiling above that shined a light directly on the GT50. The picture stayed very bright and did not get washed out. Keep in mind this was in an opened space at a shopping mall.
Inside your house will be a lot better. I have hardly used THX Bright Room, I'm usually fine with the standard THX Cinema mode. You shouldn't be disappointed, but if you want to spend a lot more money for only a small amount of extras then go for the VT50 series if perfection in PQ is absolutely crucial however you may not see a great difference to the naked eye.
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I am considering the purchase of a gt50, but I'm looking for some input. I currently have a 50px80u which I have no complaints about, beside the fact that it is located in a bright room and during the day I get washout. I've read all the reviews, but I'd like to get some real world impressions. Anyone have opinions about the difference between the sets in a bright environment and overall viewing quality , or should I just go for LED? Thanks!

Why do you think LED would be better for a bright room than a GT50? Most of the current LEDs have glossy reflective screens, where the GT50 has a pretty good Anti-Reflective Filter. The small LED TV i have in my home office is bright but during the daytime it's a mirror like my old Tube TV was and i see the whole room being reflected in it and it's extremely distracting. Luckily it's only for non-critical viewing (news etc).

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I am considering the purchase of a gt50, but I'm looking for some input. I currently have a 50px80u which I have no complaints about, beside the fact that it is located in a bright room and during the day I get washout. I've read all the reviews, but I'd like to get some real world impressions. Anyone have opinions about the difference between the sets in a bright environment and overall viewing quality , or should I just go for LED? Thanks!

I just got the gt50, and set it up in a somewhat bright room using the "THX Bright" mode - LED is the clear winner here. On the Samsung UN60D6000 that I returned, the whites were super bright, and the image popped. The gt50 was still very watchable and the image quality was good, but the picture definitely looked more washed out than I remember the LED being, along with much duller whites and far less sharpness.

Dark viewing on the other hand will hopefully be a different story, which was the reason I returned the Samsung LED in the first place. The Samsung was almost unwatchable at night because of the non-uniform black levels, and flashlighting. I'll report back tonight after I see how gt50 performs in the evenings...
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How's the built in sound on the GT50?
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I've have returned countless units due to them being defective or not liking the picture quality. What a nightmare.

The latest had a bright orange vertical streak of pixels on the lest side of the panel (Samsung UN60D700). What was astonishing was that the clouding and edge lighting issues were almost non existent.

Now I'm considering a Panasonic GT50. I have been avoiding this brand not because of picture quality but because of styling. I detest cheap glossy plastic. I know it's swallow of me but that's how I am.

I have yet to see one in person so I'm wondering what king of material the stand is made of. Is it metal? If not, is the plastic resistant to scratches?

Also, how resistant is the bezel to scratches. I'm hoping it's not a glossy plastic that scratches by merely wiping the dust off of it.

Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Go ahead and make fun of me if you like just as long if you give me an ideal of the material used.

p.s. - One of my units was a Samsung PN60D8000 and I loved the picture quality but I returned it because of excessive screen buzzing. I'm hearing complaints of buzzing on the E series from user reviews so Panasonic is it.

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I've have returned countless units due to them being defective or not liking the picture quality. What a nightmare.

For you? Or for the retailers that you've been buying from?


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Now I'm considering a Panasonic GT50. I have been avoiding this brand not because of picture quality but because of styling. I detest cheap glossy plastic. I know it's swallow(??) of me but that's how I am. I have yet to see one in person so I'm wondering what king of material the stand is made of. Is it metal?

No, it's plastic.


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Also, how resistant is the bezel to scratches. I'm hoping it's not a glossy plastic that scratches by merely wiping the dust off of it.

It's a glossy plastic so it could possibly get scratches by wiping dust off of it unless you use the right cloth or method etc.

Pretty much every TV on the market has a plastic bezel and plastic base, and as you know plastic scratches easily.
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I am no expert by any means, but will try to help with some of the previous questions.
My 50" GT50 is my first Plasma TV and I have only had it since last Sunday.
I am using THX cinema mode and it is plenty bright enough even with a light on in my living room. I have not felt the need to use THX Bright Room for any reason at all.
Again this is also my first 3D set and I have only 1 3D disc. But to my untrained eyes, I am very happy with the overall look of 3D. I may have seen a some ghosting, but only for a brief period. Looking forward to have Chad B calbrate it for me some time this Summer and improve what I feel so far is an impressive TV.
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Thanks for the feedback Randy,

Well, some Samsung units do a good job of incorporating plastics. LG is going in that direction but I'm not a big fan of their picture quality.

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Hi guys, I would like to buy a GT50 and use it as a PC monitor. Has anyone tried to enable 4:4:4 reproduction over HDMI-HDMI or DVI-HDMI? If so, what video card are you using? I heard there are some problems with the DVI-HDMI detection. I'm concerned because I have a HD4870X2 which only has DVI connectors.
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Are you trying to get it locally (or discounted)? Amazon has the 65GT50 in stock - mine's being delivered Monday.

We finally got our's in too.........
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How's the built in sound on the GT50?

Disappointing if you ask me. Not sure I want to run it through my AVR system all the time. Looking into a soundbar for every day listening.
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Disappointing if you ask me. Not sure I want to run it through my AVR system all the time. Looking into a soundbar for every day listening.

I've said the same thing about the sound quality of the gt50s it's average at best and think there was alot of hype surrounding their 8-train speakers and subwoofer it's nothing to write home about.

I use my avr for day to day listening.
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Disappointing if you ask me. Not sure I want to run it through my AVR system all the time. Looking into a soundbar for every day listening.

Really? You think so? Normally I don't fall into marketing hype such as the 8 train speakers and subwoofer inside the GT50 so when I got my GT50 I wasn't expecting much. My family and I were playing Pandora through the GT50's speakers and they sounded pretty good.....for a flat screen of course. I've heard much worse in other flat screens.
I do however plan on getting the Atlantic Technology Powerbar 235 when it's finally released after the summer. They keep pushing back the release date. Reviewers have said it's the best they've heard and the bass response is so powerful it's indistinguishable from having a separate powered subwoofer.
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HDTVTest review of the GT50 is here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1205091797.htm
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HDTVTest review of the GT50 is here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1205091797.htm

According to this review, the GT does allow for the same calibration settings and picture modes as the VT. So now the only differences are:

Ultra vs Pro Infinite black panel
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Will the North America version also have the unlocked modes? I'm trying to decide between the GT and VT.

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"Lastly, the two [Professional] modes, which have to be unlocked in the [Setup] menu, provide the full range of image calibration controls. These include Greyscale (White Balance) and Gamma controls, both with 10-point precision, and also a three-axis colour management system."
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Please see the update to the 60GT50 dimensions below per this Panasonic web page. Hopefully you can update the info in post #2.


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GT50 Dimensions without the stand: (The Stand adds 2 inches to the overall height)

50GT50 46.1" Wide x 27.7" High x 1.9" Deep

55GT50 50.6" Wide x 30.3" High x 1.9" Deep

60GT50 55.0"Wide x 32.7"" High x 1.9" Deep (The 60 incher's dimensions aren't released as of this writing)

65GT50 59.0" Wide x 35.0" High x 1.9" Deep



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HDTVTest review of the GT50 is here:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...1205091797.htm

Good review. I'm even more excited now about getting the 60GT50. The ST wasn't an option for me (I needed the extra HDMI port and THX) and the VT here in Canada is significantly more expensive. I'm so glad Panasonic made the GT available in Canada. To me, the GT50 perfectly hits the sweet spot.
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Please see the update to the 60GT50 dimensions...Hopefully you can update the info in post #2.

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Really? You think so? Normally I don't fall into marketing hype such as the 8 train speakers and subwoofer inside the GT50 so when I got my GT50 I wasn't expecting much. My family and I were playing Pandora through the GT50's speakers and they sounded pretty good.....for a flat screen of course. I've heard much worse in other flat screens.
I do however plan on getting the Atlantic Technology Powerbar 235 when it's finally released after the summer. They keep pushing back the release date. Reviewers have said it's the best they've heard and the bass response is so powerful it's indistinguishable from having a separate powered subwoofer.

I have the bass turned all the way up and I can't tell a difference. Certainly can't feel anything vibrating from the 'sub.' Very 'tinny' in my opinion. Have to turn it up quite a bit to understand dialog. Amazing picture, but not sure anyone can make speakers sound good when they are that thin.
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modes, which have to be unlocked in the [Setup] menu, provide the full range of image calibration controls. These include Greyscale (White Balance) and Gamma controls, both with 10-point precision, and also a three-axis colour management system."

No the North American GT does Not have the two Professional (ISF) modes. Only the VT does.

Indecision may or may not be my problem.
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Assuming that the VT50 I am purchasing has the same THX settings as the GT, would I be correct in inferring, according to the above discussion, that if I were to use the out-of-the-box settings, that I should use the THX Bright Room setting for day, and THX Cinema setting for night? If this is the case, it makes it easy for me as I am not an experrt by any means. Thanks for your replies.
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No the North American GT does Not have the two Professional (ISF) modes. Only the VT does.

Actually the North American VT50 doesn't have the two Professional modes either, the TVs they tested were UK versions which do have the two Professional modes. The UK models are very different from the NA versions and the settings menus are completely different.

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Hi guys, I would like to buy a GT50 and use it as a PC monitor. Has anyone tried to enable 4:4:4 reproduction over HDMI-HDMI or DVI-HDMI? If so, what video card are you using? I heard there are some problems with the DVI-HDMI detection. I'm concerned because I have a HD4870X2 which only has DVI connectors.

I have my GT50 hooked up to my HTPC, Hdmi-Hdmi. No problems, just had to adjust my screen size from pc to fit the screen on the tv. I have a Gigabyte 6 series motherboard. I'm not sure with DVI-HDMI but I'm sure it would be fine.

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Can someone share light on the 3D section of this review of the ST50. I realize this is the GT50 thread but this review makes it seem like there are limitations to the panel used in Panasonic's plasmas while watching 3D. Maybe someone can comment on how this reviewer basically says that these sets are not Full HD 3D??

My friend told me there's 50 60GT50's at the warehouse, on the way to his store within the next 10 days. I asked him to hold me one. Don't get me wrong, 2D picture quality is of most importance but I've also come to really like 3D content on my UN55D8000.(which I'm exchanging)

I'd really appreciate some feedback from people who watch 3D content on their GT. Any truth to what was said in this review? http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panas...nce#3dmaterial
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Just got my 60" GT50 yesterday to compare to a Sumsung E7000 which had too much glare for our liking.
There are no audio issues or any imperfections in the display.
The only problem is that any time I turn on the 3D function, the TV goes black and the power button flashes. I have to unplug the unit to reset it.
Picture quality: after only playing around with it for a few hours or so, I am not blown away with the picture. Image is very dull looking. I have not checked out bluray content yet but so far the winner is the Samsung. There is less screen glare with the Panny which is why I got the GT50. I will test a lot more this weekend and post some more.
Has anybody else had the 3D turn off issue?
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I have my GT50 hooked up to my HTPC, Hdmi-Hdmi. No problems, just had to adjust my screen size from pc to fit the screen on the tv. I have a Gigabyte 6 series motherboard. I'm not sure with DVI-HDMI but I'm sure it would be fine.

OK, thanks. I think I'm going to replace my card with an HD7xxx card or an Nvidia one anyway.

On another note, does anyone know why graphics cards include Display Ports? I haven't seen many regular PC monitors to use this port and certainly haven't seen it on any high-end plasma or LED TV. From what I've heard it should be faster than HDMI 1.4, so why won't Panasonic include at least one Display Port with their GT and VT models?
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