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post #61 of 228 Old 05-03-2012, 07:30 AM
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My set arrived this morning.

While I have not yet plugged it in, the build quality is superb. The slim, aluminum bezel looks amazing, and the TV feels solid. The matte screen seems quite similar to LED televisions--I am very interested in seeing it in action.

I watch HD content only and will run 100 hours of color slides, followed by extensive fine tuning. I am coming from a Sony KDL-52XBR4, which was the "bees knees" of TVs in 2007.
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I thought that if it has a matte screen that there is no chance of IR. And if so, then there's no need to run slides for 100 hours on it.
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I thought that if it has a matte screen that there is no chance of IR. And if so, then there's no need to run slides for 100 hours on it.

No, it definitely can get IR in these early hours. Flipped on the Knicks-Heat game for no more than two minutes, and could see the TNT logo for about 30 seconds later on a gray screen until it disappeared.

Seeing that, I turned it to Vivid and am blasting the color slides for the next 200 hours.

My initial impressions on HD content: very, very impressed with the picture. Loads better than my old XBR4. I hope there are no burn-in issues after I complete the slide process though....
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No, it definitely can get IR in these early hours. Flipped on the Knicks-Heat game for no more than two minutes, and could see the TNT logo for about 30 seconds later on a gray screen until it disappeared.

If it's of any comfort, the IR on LG sets are usually very "harmless". They show up pretty easily, but they go away equally easily. So unless you see them over normal content I wouldn't worry about it at all.
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Very good to hear! The sensitivity had me a bit concerned, but I figured it was due to the new phosphors. Any reason why I shouldn't run the TV in "Game" mode at all times? Also, any idea if the Orbiter feature is even visible to the eye?
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I'll also add that the matte screen is simply amazing. I have a light positioned directly above the TV in the ceiling, and the light cannot be seen on the screen when on. In fact, I think it is less reflective than my old XBR4.
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What is with the shades near black? Are they rendered as clumpy as thr LG plasmas in the past or are the noise particles finally fine enough?
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And it would be very cool, if you could make two screenshots. One of the pluge pattern of the AVS709 disc and another of the green screen, that is always just before movie trailers.

Thanks in advance.

Would be cool!
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Where can you buy this in Canada, more specifically, Saskatchewan?
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Where can you buy this in Canada, more specifically, Saskatchewan?

Hi J Earl

Good question, last years flagship the PZ950 was discontinued by LG Canada before it even hit the streets, believe Visions.ca listed for awhile and that was it, so we'll have to wait and see.
I've seen the PM6700 next to last years Panasonic GT30 and it looked very competitive, and much better blacks than the LG PZ750 which was flanked next to the other two, so I'm curious to see the PM9700 myself if and when it's ever released here.

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So I apparently am going to own the 9700 now. I had the 6700 but both sets had small black spots behind the glass panel. Looked almost like a small shaving of some sort. About the size of 3-5 pixels. Looked like a gnat on the screen but wasn't. Since I didn't want a 3rd unit, my dealer gave me a discount on the 60PM9700. Got it at a substantial discount (several hundred cheaper than selling price). Delivered. And they are going to mount it for me since I've had to mount and take down the 6700 twice. Whatever shortcomings the 9700 may have, it's totally worth the price I paid. . I can't think of another 60 inch tv out there that can compete for what I got it for. Very happy right now. They bent over backwards to rectify my issues.

Only downside is they are out of stock so I have to wait 2-3 weeks for the new set.

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...so I've decided to return the set and go with the 55" LM8600 LED model.

Basically, the screen is slightly offcenter; i.e. the bottom and right sides are not flush with the bezel by about 2 pixel widths, unlike the top and left sides of the screen. I love the picture, and the matte plasma is phenomenal, but at the end of the day, I'm going to go with the 55 LM8600 paired with the LG NB3520A sound bar.

I viewed the Passive 3d technology in-store (just turned it on while the Sixers-Bulls game was on), and was absolutely blown away by the quality. Seeing that, I've opted to with the LED model, even though it's a slightly smaller screen.
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All I can say is that the 6700 was awesome for the price. Everything was great except for the QC issues. The little speck I probably could have lived with, but it would drive me crazy. I'm really looking forward to the 9700. Too bad I have to wait 2-3 weeks for it.....

Everything seems to have issues. Just was reading the Sammy E550 thread and there's buzzing and screen shut off issues. LEDs have bleeding and flashlight issues. Panasonic seems to be holding their prices up as of now. Every set that I considered in my price range (under $2000) seems to have a drawback of some sort. The 9700 I saw on display was quite impressive IMO. I will post pics and info when I get mine if someone else hasn't.

BTW. Has anyone realized that the media share function uses Plex?? That's really bad a-- in my opinion. Streamed a bluray rip to the 6700 no problem with metadata. The menu works pretty well. Also streamed shows off of my Directv DVR easily a well. These LG smart plasmas really seem to be a great buy compared to the competition.

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Still no pro reviews?
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I hope this TV gets a pro review too. I like the price point , the calibration settings, and the matte screen.
If I'm correct does it have a triple processor? I wonder why that wouldn't help with video processing, as a user said the 480 video processing was crap.
Does this TV do a good job at 24p playback? Is it smooth or choppy?
I'm torn between getting gt50 and this lg pm9700.
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I've seen the 9700 in store compared to the 6700 side by side and there is less judder on the 9700. The dealer told me that it had a better processor for what it's worth. I'm kinda fed up with reviews at this point. I'm not calibrating my set professionally. The bottom line to me is that LG has features and picture quality at a price point the others cant touch. I really don't care what the reviews say. The 6700 in my room looks amazing. I can't wait til my 9700 shows up in a couple weeks.

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The picture on the set is very, very good. If my screen were centered on the set and perfectly flush with the bezel, then I'd likely keep it.

I actually think I'll go with the LM9600 active backlight model instead....
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This set is very interesting. It looks very attractive and the matte screen would be huge plus for me. Cant wait to see professional reviews. If it gets close to Samsung and Panny on brightness and black level i might buy it. Also i hope LG has finally sorted out ir, since the old LG's have a horrible ir.

Does this set have frame interpolation system?
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Yes. It has trumotion. I've looked at many, many led sets and they just aren't for me. I keep coming back to plasma.

Also, I haven't noticed any ir issues with the 6700 I am currently using.

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This model is already for sale on a prominent "bargain" internet site(Oh Oh Oh ... ) before most electronics retailers even have it.
No idea how they source their goods, or how LG distributes them, but doesn't that seem sketchy somehow?
Sort of like a movie that goes direct to video and never plays in a theater?
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A lot of those sites claim to have things "in stock" when they really don't. And besides, the price there is the same as I've seen everywhere they have listed a price.

If you don't want to know, don't ask. The truth is brutal, prepare for pain.
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Wish my retailer would get it in stock. I'm anxiously awaiting its delivery.

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This model is already for sale on a prominent "bargain" internet site(Oh Oh Oh ... ) before most electronics retailers even have it.
No idea how they source their goods, or how LG distributes them, but doesn't that seem sketchy somehow?
Sort of like a movie that goes direct to video and never plays in a theater?

They had the Panasonics (don't know about Samsung) before BB. And ocassionally, Amazon also has theatrical release movie rentals and pre-theatrical rentals.

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Checked with my local dealer today and they still don't have the 9700s and couldn't give me a date when they would. They said they would get them when they could. It's an independent dealer, so I'm guessing they get them straight from LG, but are down the priority list a bit.

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Mine had them but is currently out of stock. They had a big sale the weekend before and sold all that they had. Told me 2-3 weeks 5 days ago. I can't wait to see how it looks in my HT room.

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Now look at that MLL with the PM9700 (0.034 cd/m2). Not bad for an untuned LG out of the box. It's in the same ballpark as the Panasonic GW10 from 2009 and ANSI is even better. (0.052 cd/m2)

I wonder, if the PA6500 has the same kind of MLL?
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I expected better results for the PM9700 in the hdtv shootout 2012

CJSIV did your PM9700 arrived?? I'm curious how your pm9700 is performing
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Actually I cancelled the order and switched to a 64" Samsung. I had 3 LG plasmas with defects and decided LG wasn't for me.

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Hive mind - Need Help

I just returned my LG 7600 to BB (55'). The glare and reflection was just too much. Why oh why did everyone have to put reflective glass on their screens. I just want to watch some damn TV when I get home. I don't want to close every blind in the house and turn of every lamp within 50 feet so I don't see it reflected back at me.

The PQ on the 7600 was pretty nice even using the factory settings. I am not a TV maven who spends his whole life tweaking every level. A cable box is fine for me. Hell, I just bought a Blue Ray player 3 weeks ago when I bought the TV.

Does anyone here actually have a 9700 or have they seen one in person. Is the screen really "matte" or is it as glossy as any other plasma I see in BB? Anyone got some real world pictures from multiple angles?

I know there are other LEDs out there but I like LG the best because it is dual voltage and 50/60 HZ so it will work in Germany if we go back (a very likely possibility). I also like that LGs swivel so you can angle it for viewing from the kitchen (for example). The 7600 swiveled 10 degrees and the 9700 is supposed to swivel 20 degrees.

I am just so damn nervous about pulling the trigger on the 9700 and being disappointed. Plus having to deal with returns and re-packing. Ughh..Just getting the 7600 back in the box was a 1 hour PITA and my wife was not to pleased with the puzzle of putting it back together.

Thoughts?
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My thought is, wait. If you only bought a Blu-ray 3 weeks ago -- you can wait another month or two. There are a couple of customer reviews on Amazon (on the 50" model), starting in mid-May -- that's the only thing I've been able to find to date. My local dealer has not been able to get one from LG yet...

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