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post #211 of 228 Old 03-13-2013, 08:58 PM
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tanbirm i just looked at your photos and i am very confused. I just ordered this tv last week from electonix depot fulfilled by amazon and the set i received has a matte screen as you can see from the photos i posted. I also have the same tcl tv and while it is a lot brighter the lg has a much better picture. i think you should contact lg or the seller because as you said it is obviously not a matte screen.

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Amazon still has stock. Since it was fulfilled through Amazon have them exchange it.
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I just looked at the PM9700 at frye's. I know it's a terrible environment, but the LG was one of the nicest screens they had out. I was pleasantly surprised - and it's definitely matte, and it had the lowest reflections of any display in the store. Keep in mind their store is horrible - lights everywhere and a bunch of televisions all facing each other. And in that environment it ruled supreme.

The only issue I had - and I'd have to take it home and adjust it and see if it's real, is that the picture seemed to be a little tiny bit soft - maybe from the matte screen. That being said, it really looked excellent, and when I sat back from it and watched it awhile I felt I could be very happy with it.

The Panny 50ST50 had a lot of reflections - enough to make me worry about the GT50 I was also considering. The surprise television for me was the ES8000 LED-LCD. I thought I'd read reviews that it wasn't very good - and the 46" best picture on display there. They've come way down in price - maybe the old reviews were taking the ridiculous list price into account? They can be had now for 1200... I am wondering with the current price how they would be rated. The funny thing about ratings like that is some lower series models were marked higher - I am assuming because of the reviews, they are simply higher in demand, and people turn away from the higher models which didn't perform well for their price point. Ironic when the prices start falling and the top of the line is now cheaper than the big selling middle of the line.

In any case I decided I could be happy with the LG PM9700 for a good long time. Hopefully they'll still be available come friday...
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Now I am more surprised after seeing your photo. My one is also from electonix depot fulfilled by amazon. Pls see photo of back sticker below. Is it same as your one?


Even at day scene I can see reflection of my room background. You can see my room's curtain, wall and furniture through below photo.

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Regarding picture quality between LG and TCL, I have seen CNN HD channel at the same time in both TV. To me, face, nose, lips, eyes and hair look more clear and vivid in TCL with no reflection of room background ( need to set up picture perfectly). I returned Panasonic UT50 due to reflection and washed out problem. UT50 is brighter than this LG. Even 100% contrast, LG picture is not bright enough to give vivid picture.
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A "LED" is always going to have a sharper looking or clear picture then a plasma it's just the difference in the technology. While a plasma may look dull next to a led and not as bright if it is set right it is giving you the closest picture to the way it is intended to be seen. Some like the look of a plasma more and some like led more. It really comes down to preference, but I think that you should try exchanging the lg for one that really does have a matte screen before you choose between them. The sticker on the back of my tv is same as you posted.
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Plasmas have a more natural looking picture structure-More like older CRT's and DLP. My wife had a heck of a time adjusting the LG LM7600 I bought her last June to be acceptable, and she is really jealous of my new PM9700's picture. If you like the phony bright color pop and effects of most LCD/LED sets, you may have a hard time adjusting to a plasma TV. wink.gif
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tanbirm-What did you end up doing?
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Skin is very reflective in dark scene and I never watch tv after putting light off. Pls check below image. My whole room is reflecting like semi mirror.



I am definitely returning LG. I have already confirmed with Amazon and Ceva will pick up on Tuesday. I will never go for plasma. Plasma color is accurate and natural but it is not lifelike crystal clear, sharp and bright. So I am keeping TCL which has clear, sharp and bright picture than LG. Also it does not have reflection problem. Better will add roku 3 with TCL.
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Sorry it didn't work out for you. That unit sure looks like it has the wrong screen for sure. eek.gif
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Anybody else get an update notice for update 04.10.06? It's not even listed online yet, so there's no way to find out what the update is even for. Anybody ran it yet? I'm holding off until I can find out.
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After 3 weeks I've got about 60 hours on My 60PM9700 so far. I can't understand how this TV was not better received. I suppose the early software held back it's capabilities. Too bad there were no reviews after the fixes were implemented. Anyway, we had a 50GT50 Panasonic in our family room for a couple weeks last year and sent it back to Amazon because the glare was too much in that room. It had a great picture, and I've viewed the GT and VT at couple Best Buys and the GT at Sears as well . This LG is really a great TV and there's hardly any noticeable reflection compared to any other plasma available today. I really don't see how spending hundreds more for the Panasonics would be a good use of funds for most people. It looks like LG has downsized their Plasma line for 2013 and it appears the new top model will be based on the current 6700. It also looks like Panasonic may not be in the game much longer, and even with Samsung's new 8500 series positive early reports I doubt enough people will gravitate to it. If that is the reality of things, I would imagine not much R&D is going into any of the 3 remaining Plasma manufacturers plasma models going forward. I'll bet any changes will be minimal if at all after this year. Just my opinion. That being said, I'm confident this one will get me by for many years.biggrin.gif
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Has anybody found any non-LG 3D galsses that work with the PM9700's?
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Has anybody found any non-LG 3D galsses that work with the PM9700's?
The Samsung 5100GB works with the 6700 model so I would assume they work with the 9700 as well.
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I'm curious about the 04.10.06 update, too. However, I'm still a fairly new 50PM9700 owner. Installed it without really thinking :P

There's a Terms and Conditions update, but I clicked right through it...

I was poking around the Settings looking for differences. The only item that looked new to me (although I might've just missed it before) was an setting for "Live Plus" under Option. It doesn't have a pop-up Help for it, so I have no clue what it does. Can anyone confirm if that's new, and, if so, what it might do?

Otherwise, if anyone has any ideas what the firmware changed that'd be awesome smile.gif
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According to LG's website the update was to improve Skype performance.
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Is it possible to run CEC/SmartLink on this TV, but not have it change my AVR's input to "TV" on a power-on command? I enabled SmartLink to allow the 9700 to change the input when I send DLNA streams to it, as well as have unified power control...

I've had to adjust my Harmony's "Home Theater" macro to the following Power on TV, Power on AVR, wait 6 seconds, switch AVR to input of choice. Without that 6 second delay the TV always changes the AVRs input select to "TV" rather than the input of choice, my HTPC or STB. As you can imagine, that additional 6 seconds of power on time is quite annoying.
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I'm having a couple of issues with this tv. First whenever there is a lot of white on the screen. The screen dims the display. I have the energy settings and dynamic contrast disabled. So I have no idea why it does this. If anyone has a pc connected to it. Launch Chrome browser in windowed then expand it to full screen and you'll see what i'm talking about. This is pretty annoying because it also happens when watching hockey games.

Second. I have audio video sync issues. If sound comes out through the tv speaker everything is in sync. If however sound is coming out through my Logitech Z-2300 speakers video and audio is out of sync. The only way to get rid of it is by setting the picture settings to "GAME".
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