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Old 04-15-2012, 11:40 PM
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But then again.........
http://es.engadget.com/2012/03/28/lg...-led-a-partir/
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"It seems that the war in screens created by the models of plasma and LED has its days numbered. That's at least what LG wants to achieve with their new PLED, a new technology and unveiled at CES whose name is a pun between Plasma and LED , but a new twist to this latest technology. Under the symbol Pixel Light Emitting Display (PLED), these new panels hide a new lighting system that is applied pixel by pixel instead of the entire panel backlight as in the actual screens, lighting 6.2 million independent pixels and thus obtaining pure blacks, above the LED speed (600 Mhz) and truer colors (95% of the RGB gamut). The theory is very similar to the screens Crystal LED that Sony introduced during CES 2012 in response to competition OLED models.

In addition, consumption is much lower than that of a plasma, as indicated by overcoming the manufacturer, in only 8% to that achieved by a television LED."

This sounds so cockamamie. If these TVs use 8% of the power of an LED LCD, we are talking like 10-20w.

I find it odd that this alleged breakthrough TV technology is being covered by no one in the industry.

It still feels like an April Fool's joke.... If it's something real, what the heck is it?

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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As has been said before, PLED is just a commercial term to rebrand plasma, which seems LG Spain is trying to use to avoid plasma bad press. As said, LG applied for PLED as a trademark. Model is PM9700, hence P for plasma. Every plasma in the world can be considered a "pixel light emitting display." As for 600MHz "speed", Panasonic introduced 600MHz subfield drive, as every other plasma maker. The press note is just pointing the classic advantages of plasma technology over LCD.

As for consumption, the 6% *increase* above LED (that's what original Spanish text says), well, it may be the case under special optimal conditions, we all know plasma consumption is variable. Maybe LG achieved to lower consumption, but most press text I see just says consumption is lower to plasmas, which can be true as newer gen plasma usually has somehow reduced consumption. Other LG Spanish press notes specify "PLED" PM9700 consumption is 130W for 50" and 183W for 60" and claim that to be "40% lower to plasmas." Well, all this can be true if you chose specific other models.

So, it's all just creative advertising.
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The only thing we can conclude from this press release....
"LOST IN TRANSLATION"


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All that matters to me is what the picture looks like. If it looks better than the competition, I don't really care how they did it.
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That may be the case for you, but this is the AVS forum, so don't be surprised if others prefer to peer under the hood.
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As has been said before, PLED is just a commercial term to rebrand plasma, which seems LG Spain is trying to use to avoid plasma bad press. As said, LG applied for PLED as a trademark. Model is PM9700, hence P for plasma. Every plasma in the world can be considered a "pixel light emitting display." As for 600MHz "speed", Panasonic introduced 600MHz subfield drive, as every other plasma maker. The press note is just pointing the classic advantages of plasma technology over LCD.

As for consumption, the 6% *increase* above LED (that's what original Spanish text says), well, it may be the case under special optimal conditions, we all know plasma consumption is variable. Maybe LG achieved to lower consumption, but most press text I see just says consumption is lower to plasmas, which can be true as newer gen plasma usually has somehow reduced consumption. Other LG Spanish press notes specify "PLED" PM9700 consumption is 130W for 50" and 183W for 60" and claim that to be "40% lower to plasmas." Well, all this can be true if you chose specific other models.

So, it's all just creative advertising.

This assessment strikes me as very very correct. Thank you.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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This assessment strikes me as very very correct. Thank you.

Panasonic has NeoPlasma, LG now has.......... PLED .

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What if it actually is LCD screen lighted up by a plasma behind it instead of LED or fluorescent?
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What if it actually is LCD screen lighted up by a plasma behind it instead of LED or fluorescent?

It's not. It's plasma. Regular old plasma.

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It's not. It's plasma. Regular old plasma.

That certainly seems correct to me too, sage. For what it's worth, a plasma panel would make a fairly godawful LCD backlight. There'd be no reason to do that in a world where energy requirements matter to consumers and regulators. It would be an awful display power and light-wise.

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That certainly seems correct to me too, sage. For what it's worth, a plasma panel would make a fairly godawful LCD backlight. There'd be no reason to do that in a world where energy requirements matter to consumers and regulators. It would be an awful display power and light-wise.

I'm actually surprised they didn't do this sooner! Samsung made a mint marketing an (in some ways inferior) LCD with LED back-lighting as an entirely new display: LED display. Panasonic half-assed it with "neo pdp" but then didn't follow through by eliminating the word plasma from ever marketing sheet and advertisement the way Samsung did with LCD when promoting their LED sets.

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I'm actually surprised they didn't do this sooner! Samsung made a mint marketing an (in some ways inferior) LCD with LED back-lighting as an entirely new display: LED display. Panasonic half-assed it with "neo pdp" but then didn't follow through by eliminating the word plasma from ever marketing sheet and advertisement the way Samsung did with LCD when promoting their LED sets.

I agree, but it's too late for plasma. This is its final decade of its mainstream existence and by the back end of the decade, that will be clear.

That said, I will likely be buying a new 2012 Panasonic plasma and hoping against hope that by 2017 or so, there is a display with equivalent viewing angles and clearly superior picture quality.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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