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Ok, Im quoting myself here here. After some research it is infact that Panasonic TV's do use a Real D "active" 3D system. But what I would like to know how does this tech differ from the 3D of like Samsung? Does it make it more like the 3D in the cinemas? I always though REAL D 3D was a passive technology.
Gas, you may get a better response in the 3D forum.
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Question, I noticed the VT50 has a REAL D 3D logo on it. I thought that was a passive system like the theaters. Why does it have the real d logo on it? does it incorporate some sort of real d tech in its active 3D? or is it because it's THX certified?

Ok, Im quoting myself here here. After some research it is infact that Panasonic TV's do use a Real D "active" 3D system. But what I would like to know how does this tech differ from the 3D of like Samsung? Does it make it more like the 3D in the cinemas? I always though REAL D 3D was a passive technology.
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RealD has certain 3D patents that they license to CE companies. I think they are related to the SidebySide and TopandBottom broadcast 3D formats.

I think this allows the VT50 to "auto detect those formats.

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I was being sarcastic. I don't understand why anyone would do it.

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If you have been careful and are still getting IR that is visible in regular content, then you have a defective panel. You should exchange it. Clearly we would all be freaking out if we were getting IR in the manner you are.
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No, you make a good point. It's curiosity, more than anything. That and I wanted to prove that I could correct it.

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We are on the same page for the most part. And I should have said 1-100 hours for serious IR risk with 100-500 being less vulnerable but still in the "be aware" state.

I was unaware and ignorant in hours 1-100 as well. I have no idea if I've crossed hour 500 yet either. I will admit the 6-year-old plasma had a lot of 4:3 on it and the new one I "stretch to fill" but beyond that I am taking (and have taken) no action to avoid IR.
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I am not that old. My ps3 gets plenty if use for more than movies. I watch every kind of content under the sun and I game plenty. Do I look for IR? No. Would I notice it if I had it? You bet your a$$. I just don't torture myself by using slides after a few hundred hours. I am not psychotic contrary to popular belief.

I also didn't load a single slide, in part because I didn't have any spare flash drives. Subsequently, I acquired a bunch of spare flash drives (wow, they are cheap right now) but have not been bored enough to load any of them with slides. YMMV.
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There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working.
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w o w they're on the same side & are still somehow arguing about it- now that's passion!
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w o w they're on the same side & are still somehow arguing about it- now that's passion!

I am honestly not sure if he is arguing or being supportive. I am so confused and vulnerable right now. Curse you Rogo and your kung fu mind tricks! wink.gif

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I came here for an argument. This is simple contradiction.
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I came here for an argument. This is simple contradiction.
No it isn't.
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My local tv store is having a one day only sale on the 65VT50 for $1,999. Seems like a huge steal. However, I'm curious for those of you who own this set how the glare is on the tv? I know Plasmas are historically glossy, however, many of the newer LED sets are as well. However, if the picture is bright and vibrant, the glare doesn't matter as much. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. I have window directly in front of my TV, however, we have blinds and can shut most of the light out. However, when my current Toshiba LCD set is shut off, you can certainly see the ambient light.
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That price can't be right for a 65" VT50.

Indecision may or may not be my problem.
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My local tv store is having a one day only sale on the 65VT50 for $1,999. Seems like a huge steal. However, I'm curious for those of you who own this set how the glare is on the tv? I know Plasmas are historically glossy, however, many of the newer LED sets are as well. However, if the picture is bright and vibrant, the glare doesn't matter as much. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. I have window directly in front of my TV, however, we have blinds and can shut most of the light out. However, when my current Toshiba LCD set is shut off, you can certainly see the ambient light.


Are you sure about that price doesn't sound right..........maybe for the st50, because the vt50 is over $3000
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My local tv store is having a one day only sale on the 65VT50 for $1,999. Seems like a huge steal. However, I'm curious for those of you who own this set how the glare is on the tv? I know Plasmas are historically glossy, however, many of the newer LED sets are as well. However, if the picture is bright and vibrant, the glare doesn't matter as much. Any comments or suggestions would be helpful. I have window directly in front of my TV, however, we have blinds and can shut most of the light out. However, when my current Toshiba LCD set is shut off, you can certainly see the ambient light.

That can't be correct. If it is, buy several and sell them.

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That price can't be right for a 65" VT50.

Thats what I was thinking! I paid just a hair over 3 grand for my 65"
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Do we have any other new owners with July build dates? As much as I don't believe dithering has been greatly reduced on July builds, I am curious none the less. I see dithering on older movies and lesser quality content (not SD but crappy HD) from 11' away as clear as day and even on some pretty good HD content. I have accepted this "flaw" but hearing some claims of little or no dithering is interesting to say the least. Again, I put no stock in that dithering has been drastically reduced on newer builds. But as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

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Do we have any other new owners with July build dates? As much as I don't believe dithering has been greatly reduced on July builds, I am curious none the less. I see dithering on older movies and lesser quality content (not SD but crappy HD) from 11' away as clear as day and even on some pretty good HD content. I have accepted this "flaw" but hearing some claims of little or no dithering is interesting to say the least. Again, I put no stock in that dithering has been drastically reduced on newer builds. But as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't know if flaw is the right word. Are you sure you are not confusing dithering, which is a technique to expand the color palette, versus video noise which is coming from the source?

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Do we have any other new owners with July build dates? As much as I don't believe dithering has been greatly reduced on July builds, I am curious none the less. I see dithering on older movies and lesser quality content (not SD but crappy HD) from 11' away as clear as day and even on some pretty good HD content. I have accepted this "flaw" but hearing some claims of little or no dithering is interesting to say the least. Again, I put no stock in that dithering has been drastically reduced on newer builds. But as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

I don't know if flaw is the right word. Are you sure you are not confusing dithering, which is a technique to expand the color palette, versus video noise which is coming from the source?

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Well flaw is a bit strong. I find that dithering is misrepresented pretty often, including by me. And you are correct, I am more talking about the noise aspect. Thanks for the correction. I do find video noise on this set to be bothersom but completely understood and accepted from day one. And I will take this set with the extra noise any day of the week. smile.gif

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My local tv store is having a one day only sale on the 65VT50 for $1,999.

Check the model number again, that maybe a lower model (GT50) or an older model (VT30)
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Do we have any other new owners with July build dates? As much as I don't believe dithering has been greatly reduced on July builds, I am curious none the less. I see dithering on older movies and lesser quality content (not SD but crappy HD) from 11' away as clear as day and even on some pretty good HD content. I have accepted this "flaw" but hearing some claims of little or no dithering is interesting to say the least. Again, I put no stock in that dithering has been drastically reduced on newer builds. But as they say, curiosity killed the cat.

My replacement is a July Model. I haven't really noticed anything that I can't attribute to the source, but then again I'm used to seeing what I'm seeing if that makes sense. I'll do a test this weekend watching the same DVD scenes using my XBMC box, my Xbox360, and my PS3 with all the scaling features turned off to see if it's the TV or the source.

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Check the model number again, that maybe a lower model (GT50) or an older model (VT30)

Probably the 55". Best Buy had that price just recently.

Looky here!
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Probably the 55". Best Buy had that price just recently.
Also ABT.
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Yea, most likely that was a 55" VT50 for $1999 but with tax and maybe even extra for white glove delivery, it will still cost more than US-Appliance which is $1794 (+$149 if you prefer white glove delivery) no tax. Unfortunately they just went out of stock today! Whew! I just got Amazon to price match them before it went OOS. Great timing! Best price you can get now is at Abe's of Maine which is $1913 + free wallmount (+100 for WG delivery) no tax.
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I would be careful with the price talk. They want you to keep it in the "Great Deal" thread

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My local tv store is having a one day only sale on the 65VT50 for $1,999. Seems like a huge steal.
If this was actually a real deal. Please note, that if you see a deal like this, put the credit card down to pay for the item, ask questions later biggrin.gif
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My apologies. After calling the store, it's actually the VT30. My bad. Still, its a $3,600 tv for only $2,000. And Cnet rated it as one the top five TV's for 2012. I've been researching LED tv's for the last few months, however, the price of this plasma seems too good to be true. Thoughts? Would you pick it up?
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My apologies. After calling the store, it's actually the VT30. My bad. Still, its a $3,600 tv for only $2,000. And Cnet rated it as one the top five TV's for 2012. I've been researching LED tv's for the last few months, however, the price of this plasma seems too good to be true. Thoughts? Would you pick it up?
For a VT30 it's not "too good to be true". It's just the current price for last years model which is not 2012. The VT50 models are the 2012 models.
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Well, Amazon has the set for $3,300, so I wouldn't say its the current price for the tv. Seems like a good deal.
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Well, Amazon has the set for $3,300, so I wouldn't say its the current price for the tv. Seems like a good deal.
Not a good price. smile.gif

They also have the 65VT50 for $3,320.
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My apologies. After calling the store, it's actually the VT30. My bad. Still, its a $3,600 tv for only $2,000. And Cnet rated it as one the top five TV's for 2012. I've been researching LED tv's for the last few months, however, the price of this plasma seems too good to be true. Thoughts? Would you pick it up?

The 2012 displays are essentially all new from the phosphers up.

If all I had was $2K to spend, then I'd be looking at the 2012 65ST50. It should perform better than the previous year's VT30 series for about the same money.
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