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post #31 of 13782 Old 05-03-2012, 12:27 PM
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I haven't seen any reviews or comparisons that would lead me to believe the price difference justifies the VT over GT/ST models. I'm curious, what is driving people to consider the VT?

Thanks.

A few reasons I bought one without ever seeing one...

I want to get this one calibrated eventually. Like previously mentioned, the VT has the widest array of adjustments for a calibrator.

I want to (hopefully) be able to be satisfied with this TV for longer than my last Panasonic. I figure buying "the best" would help with that and keep me from regretting and kicking myself for not spending the extra from the beginning. Two years ago I bought a G (non-3D since this was before the GT25 was ever announced) model, and while I loved it, always wondered what performance I was missing.

Another reason is that the VT is the only model with a 96Hz option for 24p material. I mainly watch blu-ray and while the Panasonics do a very good job set to 60Hz, I'd rather not have any 3:2 pulldown being done if I can avoid it. 48Hz on ST and GT also introduces too much flicker.

Lastly, the design. All the ST/GT/VT models got a nice design overhaul this year, but the VT50 looks like a big improvement over the clunky VT30. It looks like it retains the single sheet of glass while getting rid of the gigantic bezel from last year. It looks kinda like Sony's Monolithic design, which I love.

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I figure buying "the best" would help with that and keep me from regretting and kicking myself for not spending the extra from the beginning.

You took the words right out of my mouth,
going to purchase one soon myself, really can't wait.

Hope to see some great reviews by the owners in this thread.
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I'm in. First Plasma ever, going in to my new home's family room. Got a 55" LCD in there now and it feels too small, hoping this does the trick! amazon is scheduled to deliver next Friday for me.

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Bought a 65" today through the Panasonic EPP program for pretty much the same reasons as everyone else.... fingers crossed. I saw the ST50 in person and didn't care too much for the styling, so - here we go!

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Lastly, the design. All the ST/GT/VT models got a nice design overhaul this year, but the VT50 looks like a big improvement over the clunky VT30. It looks like it retains the single sheet of glass while getting rid of the gigantic bezel from last year. It looks kinda like Sony's Monolithic design, which I love.

I love that Sony design too. It was far and away my favorite design of 2011. I wish the Panasonic resembled it more. I think it's mostly that the Sony has a squared-off edge that is basically unadorned while the Panasonic has a fairly substantial, rolled off shiny silver edge.

Anyway, I see the similarities, but I find them starkly different.

That said, the features/quality of the Panasonic seem compelling enough that I'm looking past the so-so (for me) aesthetic.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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I'm in. First Plasma ever, going in to my new home's family room. Got a 55" LCD in there now and it feels too small, hoping this does the trick!

You will be amazed at the overall quality......
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I love that Sony design too. It was far and away my favorite design of 2011. I wish the Panasonic resembled it more. I think it's mostly that the Sony has a squared-off edge that is basically unadorned while the Panasonic has a fairly substantial, rolled off shiny silver edge.

Anyway, I see the similarities, but I find them starkly different.

That said, the features/quality of the Panasonic seem compelling enough that I'm looking past the so-so (for me) aesthetic.

I find them different as well, but it seems at least in the ballpark of what Sony's doing; perhaps more accurately in the vein of an LG design. Sony far and away has the more compelling aesthetic, but considering that Panasonic is not the most forward-thinking manufacturer in terms of design, I'd say it's a pretty good look coming from them. Compared to my G20 it's a major improvement. I have a very dark room that my VT50 is going in, so I doubt the shiny bits will prove distracting.

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I find them different as well, but it seems at least in the ballpark of what Sony's doing; perhaps more accurately in the vein of an LG design. Sony far and away has the more compelling aesthetic, but considering that Panasonic is not the most forward-thinking manufacturer in terms of design, I'd say it's a pretty good look coming from them. Compared to my G20 it's a major improvement. I have a very dark room that my VT50 is going in, so I doubt the shiny bits will prove distracting.

Yeah, I have a 6-year-old (I think it's 6 now), Panasonic 50" with a really ugly black/silver frame. it's pretty neutral in that it doesn't reflect however.

The new design is a huge step up in every regard. My only concern is that it will pick up incident light in my room and shine it back on us. Eventually, we will get recessed lighting in this space -- it's kind of odd it doesn't have it, but it doesn't -- and perhaps it will be something of a non-issue.

Anyway, for me, the only thing left to wait on is to learn from owners if there are any real showstoppers technically. I'm not in the mood for fluctuating brightness, brightness limiters, color-decoding errors, and lord knows what else has gone wrong with some plasma or another over the last few years. If the VT50 is free of those, it'll be my last plasma -- and I'm sure a great one.

There is no difference in HDMI cables. If you can see the picture without visible dropouts or sparklies, the cable is working at 100%. No other cable will display a better version of that picture. You're simply wrong if you think there is a better digital cable than one that is already working. (Oh, and plasma didn't die because of logistics problems, nor does OLED ship in big boxes because it comes from Korea.)
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So what's the latest and greatest news on a bigger than 65" model appearing? 70?? 75??? Anyone?!
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If you guys go to YouTube and type in panasonic VT50, someone has one in their possession.. Video is called panasonic vt50 quick look. Video of him playing transformers. motion colors and blacks look excellent
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Lastly, the design. All the ST/GT/VT models got a nice design overhaul this year, but the VT50 looks like a big improvement over the clunky VT30. It looks like it retains the single sheet of glass while getting rid of the gigantic bezel from last year. It looks kinda like Sony's Monolithic design, which I love.

design wise, is the VT50 that big of a difference from the VT30?...I havn't looked closely but it looked almost the same from a quick glance...how much smaller is the bezel?...I have the VT30 and the bezel is definitely kinda big...the silver trim is not really noticable although I wish it was gone...is the silver trim the same size on the VT50 as the VT30?

is there enough of a performance difference to 'upgrade' from a VT30 to the VT50?
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Another reason is that the VT is the only model with a 96Hz option for 24p material. I mainly watch blu-ray and while the Panasonics do a very good job set to 60Hz, I'd rather not have any 3:2 pulldown being done if I can avoid it. 48Hz on ST and GT also introduces too much flicker.

This sounds great and I would love to learn more about how this will improve my blu ray movie watching experience. Can anyone elaborate on this in lame terms to me? Is it 4:4:4:4:?

Also, do I need a special 24p blu ray player or will a PS3 do the trick?
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Randy, not that price discussion is even appropriate in this forum, but one should not need to haggle to get a 55VT50 from BB/Magnolia for 2200 since it is their current sale price.

Unless you're referring to a price outside the U.S, I'm seeing $2499 on the U.S BB Magnolia store.
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Love the videos. That is one exciting tv!

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One of the problems BB needs to correct as stated on the HD Guru 3D website in an article on what BB needs to do immediately if they don't want to become extinct. Two different prices is driving folks the wrong way.

Leaning towards buying from PaulsTV. Hating BB now. Does anyone have any experience with buying and price matching from them?
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Guys the 55VT50 is $2199 at BB. I know for a fact because I was just there tonight and asked about one. I could order it now for $2199. The Magnolia manager even said the online pricing is different and messed up.

So I suggest you take advantage of it now?
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Unless you're referring to a price outside the U.S, I'm seeing $2499 on the U.S BB Magnolia store.

Usually website pricing for Magnolia SKUs is not the same as in-store pricing.

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Got the call today. My pre-order 55VT50 showed up today.

Managed to get to the store before they closed tonight and now have it in my house!

Only have had a chance to open the box and verify that there are no physical issues. Unfortunately, tonight I didn't have second set of hands to help get it out of the box, so I haven't turned it on yet.

Physically, it is very nice. The bezel/glass looks great.

Like the ST & GT: No 3D glasses included

Will hopefully be able to get it setup tomorrow and turned on!
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Nice! Post pics if you can when you get it all set up
I was hoping what I'd read and heard from the Panasonic chat rep was wrong concerning the no glasses thing. I just picked up two pairs of the Panasonic TY-ER3D4MU today.

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hopefully there's glasses in the 65 inch
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I think it has been stated that NONE of the 2012 models will come with glasses.

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Ok, so no glasses includes, how much do they cost? Discounts for 4 pair?
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Great to see that some VT50's are now showing up. Maybe, the thread starter can add information and links concerning the VT50 in his first post like almost all other official threads, so that this Offical vt50 owners thread could be fully useful to prospective and actual VT50 owners.

I hope to have an eta on my 65vt50 next week.

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design wise, is the VT50 that big of a difference from the VT30?...I havn't looked closely but it looked almost the same from a quick glance...how much smaller is the bezel?...I have the VT30 and the bezel is definitely kinda big...the silver trim is not really noticable although I wish it was gone...is the silver trim the same size on the VT50 as the VT30?

is there enough of a performance difference to 'upgrade' from a VT30 to the VT50?

The 65VT50 measures 2.8" smaller in width than the 65VT30, so I would say the bezel is a good bit smaller.

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So what's the latest and greatest news on a bigger than 65" model appearing? 70?? 75??? Anyone?!

Not this year.

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Cancelled my Amazon order. Apparently I DO qualify for EPP, waiting on instructions for that. $400 savings? Yes please.

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What exactly does EPP get you?
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I'm getting a 65VT50. Post what prices you will pay in the deals section. I was given a deal from Abt (it's in the deal thread) but haven't locked into it yet.

Hi, you have a link to the post you're referring to. I can't find it.

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What exactly does EPP get you?

Sometimes a lower price than Amazon, but relatively poor customer service and a poor return policy.

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