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@D-Nice
I would like for you to calibrate my VT50, However I think I'll wait til panasonic sorts out the ISF mode problems.

I catch you the next time your in New York.
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Early impressions of my 65VT50.

DSE!!! VT50 reminds me of my KURO 111fd. It has the same DSE on night shots pans and also white sky pans. This is the same traits the KURO has.
I guess thats the price you have to pay for deep blacks.

I also notice a purplish tint on Glass, Just like my Kuro.

Colors are a bit undersaturated on THX cinema , but I've adjusted it somewhat.
Motion resolution is excellant. better than my Kuro.

Overall great panel . Very similar to my Calibrated Kuro.
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I would like for you to calibrate my VT50, However I think I'll wait til panasonic sorts out the ISF mode problems.

I catch you the next time your in New York.

I think D-Nice can do a full calibration in custom mode
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Sure, just PM me your contact info.

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I would like for you to calibrate my VT50, However I think I'll wait til panasonic sorts out the ISF mode problems.

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I think D-Nice can do a full calibration in custom mode

I'm sure he can. However, i don't believe he can lock the settings in custom mode.
Also as Chad B stated that Further fine tuning can be made in the ISF modes to bring the panel close to perfection.
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The two ISF modes are carbon copies of Custom mode minus the video mode label. I agree with you on the locking of the video modes.

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I'm sure he can. However, i don't believe he can lock the settings in custom mode.
Also as Chad B stated that Further fine tuning can be made in the ISF modes to bring the panel close to perfection.



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We should start up a VT50 settings thread!
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Early impressions of my 65VT50.

DSE!!! VT50 reminds me of my KURO 111fd. It has the same DSE on night shots pans and also white sky pans. This is the same traits the KURO has.
I guess thats the price you have to pay for deep blacks.

Is the DSE annoying/distracting? How serious of an issue is this?

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Can someone verify that 270 degree connector will work?

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Port-Save...6751198&sr=8-2

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The two ISF modes are carbon copies of Custom mode minus the video mode label. I agree with you on the locking of the video modes.

I have a clumsy wife who might accidentally reset the picture modes.
So locking the settings are very important to me.
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The two ISF modes are carbon copies of Custom mode minus the video mode label. I agree with you on the locking of the video modes.

So if I'm understanding you correctly, calibrated ISF modes will appear similar to a calibrated Custom mode? Similar light output?

Weren't the ISF templates a blend of custom and THX in the past?
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Can anyone comment on the 3d, I had a vt30 55 inch and I thought the 3d was good but I wanted a little more brightness. I sold my vt30 and I thought I might as well go for the 65 this time. Any improvements in crosstalk?
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Is the DSE annoying/distracting? How serious of an issue is this?

No not really, Its not distracting. Most people will not notice it most of the time.
I have a very good eye. I was looking for the shadow detail of the panel when I notice it.
However, The E8000 I had for a month had no DSE.

I have the panel for only 24 hours, so I'll let you know if its a real problem once I spend some time on Blu-ray movies.

I believe Its a fair exchange for the improved shadow detail and motion resolution.
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The two ISF modes are carbon copies of Custom mode minus the video mode label. I agree with you on the locking of the video modes.

I'm not clear on how this works after calibration. After calibration, on video modes, does it add "ISF Day" & "ISF Night" to the existing Custom, THX, Cinema, Game, etc. scroll menu? If not, how do you access the ISF modes?

Also, on the THX modes, should I still use a calibration disk to adjust contrast, brightness, color, tint, etc., or does one not screw with THX settings?

BTW, thanks Chad for the detailed 65VT50 review.
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I'm not clear on how this works after calibration. After calibration, on video modes, does it add "ISF Day" & "ISF Night" to the existing Custom, THX, Cinema, Game, etc. scroll menu? If not, how do you access the ISF modes?

There are two ISFccc memories (isf Day and isf Night) per Input. After each memory is activated on a Input, it will show up on your Picture Mode List along with the others in the "scroll menu" (Custom, Cinema, Gam, THX etc) and you can select it with the remote to use for your viewing.. You can't make adjustments to the ISFccc memories with your remote, but you use ControlCAL do to so....

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I'm not clear on how this works after calibration. After calibration, on video modes, does it add "ISF Day" & "ISF Night" to the existing Custom, THX, Cinema, Game, etc. scroll menu? If not, how do you access the ISF modes?

Also, on the THX modes, should I still use a calibration disk to adjust contrast, brightness, color, tint, etc., or does one not screw with THX settings?

BTW, thanks Chad for the detailed 65VT50 review.

Yes, ISF modes have to be unlocked and it will add to existing modes.
You can adjust to your likeing all modes. if you screw something up just reset the settings.
ISF modes once set are locked in their settings.
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I have a clumsy wife who might accidentally reset the picture modes.
So locking the settings are very important to me.

One of the top three reasons as to why they are preferred


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So if I'm understanding you correctly, calibrated ISF modes will appear similar to a calibrated Custom mode? Similar light output?

They are identical.

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Weren't the ISF templates a blend of custom and THX in the past?

No.


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Talk to us about color accuracy.

Its accurate.


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Can someone verify that 270 degree connector will work?

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Port-Save...6751198&sr=8-2

Thanks

Yes, they work perfectly. I'm using two of these together to make a 180 degree connection on my 55VT50.
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I received my P65VT50 a few days back. Here are some pics from the delivery. I got mine from amazon.

http://treyj.smugmug.com/Electronics...6683&k=LDQf93W

Here is a shot of the bezel since it is in question.


There were no 3D Glasses in the box. The apps / browser system is much faster than I expected it to be. Easily as nice as the new LG.

More pics to come
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There are two ISFccc memories (isf Day and isf Night) per Input. After each memory is activated on a Input, ....

Currently, I run all source components to the receiver via HDMI and one HDMI to the ARC input on the TV. Does it matter if one does this or sends each source component directly to it's own HDMI on the TV? Any preference from a calibration standpoint? Thanks.
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Currently, I run all source components to the receiver via HDMI and one HDMI to the ARC input on the TV. Does it matter if one does this or sends each source component directly to it's own HDMI on the TV? Any preference from a calibration standpoint? Thanks.

well, that is one of the advantages of ISFccc though it shouldn't matter for HDMI sources (but can).. you don't have to use isf Night for reference environment and isf Day for bright room.. you can use isf Night for your Blu-ray, isf Day for another source if needed (Custom for another Source, THX for even another) and use your remote to switch memories when you switch sources..

isf Night and isf Day are just label names, they could easily be labeled Memory 1 and Memory 2 or anything else

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I'm trying to decide whether to get a extended warranty from BB where I purchased the 65VT50 or from Panasonic. Panasonic has offered 409.99 for 4 years. I am at work and on the phone with BB now but they need me to have some info from my receipt to give me a quote and I don't have the receipt with me. Forgetting price, which company would you go with? I'm leaning towards Panasonic cause they are more stable at this time.
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I'm trying to decide whether to get a extended warranty from BB where I purchased the 65VT50 or from Panasonic. Panasonic has offered 409.99 for 4 years. I am at work and on the phone with BB now but they need me to have some info from my receipt to give me a quote and I don't have the receipt with me. Forgetting price, which company would you go with? I'm leaning towards Panasonic cause they are more stable at this time.

I'd ask what Panasonic covers and doesn't cover with their extended warranties. Is it just an extension of the limited warranty that comes with the TV, or does it cover anything else? The Best Buy warranty will additionally cover burn-in (standard mfg. warranty doesn't), surge damage, and I believe BB's dead/stuck pixel policy is more lenient than most manufacturers (3 defective pixels within a 1/2 sq inch area or 5 total display). BB's plans are underwritten by an insurance company, if you're worried about losing coverage.

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I would like for you to calibrate my VT50, However I think I'll wait til panasonic sorts out the ISF mode problems.

I catch you the next time your in New York.

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Probably, you don't have to wait and can take advantage of him being there next week.. those reported multi-point issues are not a problem for ControlCAL, D-Nice uses ControlCAL...

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If anyone is interested in participating, I've started the VT50 Settings Thread. Someone had to do it ...

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... I can honestly say that while I've only had my 55GT50 for exactly 7 days every second of the hour that I watch it I keep boasting how deep the black level is. I watch American Idol, CSI and some live concerts, all of which generally take great advantage of the black level of a good TV. I'm just amazed at how rich the blacks are on this set ...

HLdan, please tell me if you've had it calibrated or just using factory modes. I'm probably going to go for the GT too, and would like another opinion on the quality of the THX Bright and THX Cinema modes. Perhaps you can comment on which you use and when. Thanks.
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