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There is lots of talk about calibration and what not, but nothing on how the picture looks, or what How they think it looks. Is it Reference Material, like one of the reviewers at AVforums.com said it was. Also How does the 3d look. I am thinking of ordering one from BB this weekend. I am sure its better than what I have (Mits 65' DLP), but I have to be able to justify that kind of money.
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I'm trying to decide whether to get a extended warranty from BB where I purchased the 65VT50 or from Panasonic. Panasonic has offered 409.99 for 4 years. I am at work and on the phone with BB now but they need me to have some info from my receipt to give me a quote and I don't have the receipt with me. Forgetting price, which company would you go with? I'm leaning towards Panasonic cause they are more stable at this time.

You get one year with manufacturer and if you charge the purchase with M/C or Visa, Amex they will double the warranty.
So you really have two years warranty.
I would ask for two year warranty, after the combined two year you get when you purchase with a credit card.
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There is lots of talk about calibration and what not, but nothing on how the picture looks, or what How they think it looks. Is it Reference Material, like one of the reviewers at AVforums.com said it was. Also How does the 3d look. I am thinking of ordering one from BB this weekend. I am sure its better than what I have (Mits 65' DLP), but I have to be able to justify that kind of money.

Picture is flat out Excellent, as noted in the review from Chad B.
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You get one year with manufacturer and if you charge the purchase with M/C or Visa, Amex they will double the warranty.
So you really have two years warranty.
I would ask for two year warranty, after the combined two year you get when you purchase with a credit card.

Would an "extended" warranty do that, though? Whenever I've looked at them they're from the sales date and invariably include your initial warranty in their X years claim. Anyone confirm otherwise?
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I noticed the ANSI contrast of the 65VT50 is nearly double the 50/55" ST/GT50's. I wonder how much is due to the VT being better or just that a 65" has deeper blacks than a 50/55"?

Indecision may or may not be my problem.
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HLdan, please tell me if you've had it calibrated or just using factory modes. I'm probably going to go for the GT too, and would like another opinion on the quality of the THX Bright and THX Cinema modes. Perhaps you can comment on which you use and when. Thanks.

My House has a large livingroom but we have dark walls so much of the room is moderately lit at best so I generally use THX Cinema for day and evening viewing. I do use my own custom settings for late night watching when the room is completely dark because THX Cinema is even too bright (for me) for a completely dark room. I will say that you shouldn't be disappointed with THX Bright Room, it offers a very bright setting while maintaining great black level, I honestly didn't expect that. My previous Samsung D7000 LED was very bright for daytime viewing but the black level was destroyed for night viewing. THX Bright Room might be a good balance if you have a relatively well lit room for day and evening viewing.
I haven't had my GT50 calibrated. I wanted to see if my own eyes would be so picky that the out-of-the-box experience wouldn't be good enough but for me it was. The GT50 looks amazing without calibration which was also confirmed by Chad.
Not to say that calibrating it wouldn't be better because I'm sure it would make it even better but I'm not a videophile and I came from having a 36" Sony XBR Tube TV with Standard Def so to me the GT50 out of the box is simply amazing.
I may consider getting it calibrated since I tend to become pickier each day I read this forum. , but for now I'm extremely happy the way it is.

Here's my own take about calibration, if the GT and VT50 models didn't have the THX certified displays then I would say calibration would be much more necessary however there's been quite a bit of positive feedback from people just using the THX out of the box.
What I would really like is to read feedback from people that have had their GT50's calibrated to see the percentage difference after calibration vs. out of the box. It would have to be a high percentage for me to shell out money for calibration.
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I noticed the ANSI contrast of the 65VT50 is nearly double the 50/55" ST/GT50's. I wonder how much is due to the VT being better or just that a 65" has deeper blacks than a 50/55"?

I don't know if anyone has measured the black level of the 60/65 ST/GT50's yet. Not that I've seen, anyways.
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Could any of the current owners of the VT50 check to see if this model is affected by the vertical bar on the right hand side of screen? It is the same vertical bar that has been seen on the ST50, UT50 and GT50. I work in a high end independent electronics store and we have not received the VT50's yet. I have checked our display models of the following models and they all have the line to some degree or another. It is definately disappointing. I am anxiously awaiting a 65VT50. I went through 3 of the 65VT30 last year due to green blobs and really want this set to be free of these defects.

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Anyone experience this??
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Would an "extended" warranty do that, though? Whenever I've looked at them they're from the sales date and invariably include your initial warranty in their X years claim. Anyone confirm otherwise?

Well thats where they get you, you essentially get two years and pay for four years.

You can also call the Credit card company to see if they can extend warranty further.
Amex has one of the best warranties.
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I noticed the ANSI contrast of the 65VT50 is nearly double the 50/55" ST/GT50's. I wonder how much is due to the VT being better or just that a 65" has deeper blacks than a 50/55"?

Larger panels have deep black levels. The St/ Gt has very similar black levels to VT in there largest screens 65in.
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My House has a large livingroom but we have dark walls so much of the room is moderately lit at best so I generally use THX Cinema for day and evening viewing. I do use my own custom settings for late night watching when the room is completely dark because THX Cinema is even too bright (for me) for a completely dark room. I will say that you shouldn't be disappointed with THX Bright Room, it offers a very bright setting while maintaining great black level, I honestly didn't expect that. My previous Samsung D7000 LED was very bright for daytime viewing but the black level was destroyed for night viewing. THX Bright Room might be a good balance if you have a relatively well lit room for day and evening viewing.
I haven't had my GT50 calibrated. I wanted to see if my own eyes would be so picky that the out-of-the-box experience wouldn't be good enough but for me it was. The GT50 looks amazing without calibration which was also confirmed by Chad.
Not to say that calibrating it wouldn't be better because I'm sure it would make it even better but I'm not a videophile and I came from having a 36" Sony XBR Tube TV with Standard Def so to me the GT50 out of the box is simply amazing.
I may consider getting it calibrated since I tend to become pickier each day I read this forum. , but for now I'm extremely happy the way it is.

Here's my own take about calibration, if the GT and VT50 models didn't have the THX certified displays then I would say calibration would be much more necessary however there's been quite a bit of positive feedback from people just using the THX out of the box.
What I would really like is to read feedback from people that have had their GT50's calibrated to see the percentage difference after calibration vs. out of the box. It would have to be a high percentage for me to shell out money for calibration.

Cailbrations vary depending how good the calibrator is.
Best Buy calibrators suck.
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I'd ask what Panasonic covers and doesn't cover with their extended warranties. Is it just an extension of the limited warranty that comes with the TV, or does it cover anything else? The Best Buy warranty will additionally cover burn-in (standard mfg. warranty doesn't), surge damage, and I believe BB's dead/stuck pixel policy is more lenient than most manufacturers (3 defective pixels within a 1/2 sq inch area or 5 total display). BB's plans are underwritten by an insurance company, if you're worried about losing coverage.

Yes, BB covers stuck/burnt pixels. Just got back from there and a two-year plan is 419.00 and a 4 year 599.00. This would be my first extended warranty as I tend not to keep a set long. I find that an extended warranty is a good incentive for a prospective buyer. Like you said I'll see what Panasonic is offering above and beyond before deciding.

Update: Panasonic covers surges and stuck/dead pixels so their 4 year plan is a better value.
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There is lots of talk about calibration and what not, but nothing on how the picture looks, or what How they think it looks. Is it Reference Material, like one of the reviewers at AVforums.com said it was. Also How does the 3d look. I am thinking of ordering one from BB this weekend. I am sure its better than what I have (Mits 65' DLP), but I have to be able to justify that kind of money.

There's always more tech talk than how something looks for some reason. I'd like to hear more of the latter myself.
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The extra year warranty from the credit card companies has a bit of a catch if you get an extended warranty from Panasonic or BB, etc. Read it carefully, but seems to say if you get an extended warranty for a certain length of time, the credit card extended warranty doesn't apply. But, it probably doesn't matter as all coverages are from date of purchase, so it would be duplicative.

The only exception is the Square Trade warranty from Costco. $99 for an extra three year warranty, so it is comparable to anybody else's four-year warranty. Doesn't have all the bells & whistles as BB warranty, but it's similar to the factory warranty for a price that's hard to refuse. See link:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...S&Sp=C&topnav=

"Costco members may also purchase a SquareTrade Service plan to cover a new TV purchased outside of Costco from an authorized retailer in the US. Service Plan must be bought within 60 days of purchasing the TV."
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does anyone know if Panasonic has a MAP (minimum Advertised Price) for this TV? Meaning, they (a retailer) can't sell the tv below this price without pissing off panasonic.
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I have the 65VT30 and wanted to know if the 65VT50 is worth me changing the tv

I cannot return it to Amazon any longer since I have had it since January but am sure I can sell my tv for a fair deal on cl and then buy the new VT50

Just want to see if the upgrade is worth it. Specially the fact that custom color issues were a problem in the VT30


What improvements are there from VT30 to VT50
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There is lots of talk about calibration and what not, but nothing on how the picture looks, or what How they think it looks. Is it Reference Material, like one of the reviewers at AVforums.com said it was. Also How does the 3d look. I am thinking of ordering one from BB this weekend. I am sure its better than what I have (Mits 65' DLP), but I have to be able to justify that kind of money.


Go back a few pages and read my posts before you get your panties in a bunch. I did exactly what you asked for. IMO the vt50 is about exactly the same as the 9g 5020 elite I just sold in regards to performance, just bigger with many more options. It is almost eeire how similar they behave, good and bad. And clearly I am not the only past kuro owner that feels this way. The vt30 was close but definately different. I now consider the vt50 the reference set regardless of the minute difference in black level. nuff said
FYI If you have a vt30 and can't return it, don't upgrade unless you have mad cash. Its a personal choice but dont feel like you are stuck with a greatly inferior set. The vt30 is still a great set. Tough call to make but I suggest be happy and wait for oled.

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does anyone know if Panasonic has a MAP (minimum Advertised Price) for this TV? Meaning, they (a retailer) can't sell the tv below this price without pissing off panasonic.

Not that I know of.

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Watched terminator salvation and district 9 today on my 55 vt50 and my jaw is still on the floor, incredible picture right out of the box, can't wait for a calibration

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Yes, BB covers stuck/burnt pixels. Just got back from there and a two-year plan is 419.00 and a 4 year 599.00. This would be my first extended warranty as I tend not to keep a set long. I find that an extended warranty is a good incentive for a prospective buyer. Like you said I'll see what Panasonic is offering above and beyond before deciding.

Update: Panasonic covers surges and stuck/dead pixels so their 4 year plan is a better value.

My understanding is that there is no carry over on extended warranties. If you have a claim that's covered, that's the end of the extended warranty.
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IMO the vt50 is about exactly the same as the 9g 5020 elite I just sold in regards to performance, just bigger with many more options.

Was that a 5020 with the Elite board swap or a typo?
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So what can we expect the difference in black levels to be between the 55vt50 and the 65vt50 if we we based it off of last years vt30's difference between the 2 panel sizes. I have a pn59d8000 that I will be upgrading to either a 65 or 55. I dont want to really go down in size, but also don't want to spend the full msrp on a 65vt50. I keep hearing the bigger panels have better blacks. Just curious what the difference was on the vt30s so I can see what to expect on the vt50

Also anyone recommend a good reputable place selling the 65vt50 under MSRP? Looking for a good place to buy at a good price.

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Can anyone comment on whether the VT50 will accept Dolby Digital audio into the TV from an AVR with HDMI pass-through enabled? I know last years VT30 did not, but the Samsung's did/do.

Can anyone comment on this?
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I have the 65VT30 and wanted to know if the 65VT50 is worth me changing the tv

I cannot return it to Amazon any longer since I have had it since January but am sure I can sell my tv for a fair deal on cl and then buy the new VT50

Just want to see if the upgrade is worth it. Specially the fact that custom color issues were a problem in the VT30


What improvements are there from VT30 to VT50

From a "watching experience" stand point - no improvement.

I have a VT25 and its still best IMHO.
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From a "watching experience" stand point - no improvement.

I have a VT25 and its still best IMHO.

??? And the guy that bought the Hyundai got the best car in the world because that's what he could afford??
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BB's current price for the 55VT50 seems respectable but there's such a price hike to 65. is the 65VT50 gonna be one of those tvs that we have to wait till the end of year/next year to see significant price drops? Where are you guys getting yours assuming your getting a good deal?
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So what can we expect the difference in black levels to be between the 55vt50 and the 65vt50

I'd also like to know. I'm hoping the 55VT50 will still offer "only VT" blacks.
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I have the 65VT30 and wanted to know if the 65VT50 is worth me changing the tv

I cannot return it to Amazon any longer since I have had it since January but am sure I can sell my tv for a fair deal on cl and then buy the new VT50

Just want to see if the upgrade is worth it. Specially the fact that custom color issues were a problem in the VT30


What improvements are there from VT30 to VT50

I'm in the same boat as you. I have a 5 month old 65VT30 with around 400 hours. I'm sure we would take a huge hit selling our VT30's. My Dnice calibrated VT30 has been trouble free. I am going to hang onto my VT30 for at least two years as that is about as long as i ever keep a display anyways.

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Can you also measure the height (without stand)? Thanks.

Height without stand, bezel edge to bezel edge looks to be 35" on the nose.
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