Well, amazing news guys. Remember that trail of pixels I was worried about on the scrolling bar as it moved ? Well its completely gone now !! Razor sharp line moving across the screen ! Wondering why or how that happened, but we're pretty happy about that. And either way, we didn't see it in normal content. Just reporting it.
So that is good news - Bad news coming below - (which is why I even ran the scroller in the first place to accidently find this good news out)
Originally Posted by nabsltd
Originally Posted by hogues
I know about the possible ir for the VT50
I wouldn't make IR on the VT50 a consideration, based on my experience.
I had left my VT50 showing my HTPC because I knew the screensaver would kick in after 3 minutes. The PC locked up hard and when I came back several hours later, the Windows desktop was being displayed with an explorer window in the center. After a hard reset, I logged in and could still see the explorer window displayed on the solid desktop background. Not just "sort of see it", but I could still read the file names. The set had less than 200 hours on it, and I was scared that I had ruined my almost new TV.
So, I fired up the break-in slides, and could see the desktop pretty well in most of them (but couldn't read everything like I could with the "matching" background), and a single pass (about 20 minutes) had the IR reduced a lot, so I ran the moving bar one cycle (15 minutes). After that, I fired up the slides again and couldn't see anything left over. I switched over to the HTPC desktop and still couldn't see anything, even though that was where it had showed the most.
When less than an hour of other content removed what looked like IR from the days of dedicated apps running on monochrome monitors where you could always read the main screen even when the power was off, I stopped being worried about IR on the VT50.
So your saying running the slides will help IR ? Cause despite some peoples non-belief about IR or BI, I am appalled , and sad to report that after literally 1 hour (ONE HOUR) of watching The History Channel, we had the H and History IR'ed into the screen pretty bad. Could see it on other content, so this was my first experience with this like this so bad. I was amazed. We tried watching other content for a few hours (THREE HOURS), still could see it ! I ran the scroll bar (which is when I discover the good news about the pixel trails being gone) about 4 times in a row (ONE HOUR) - its still there. We eventually had to go to bed. Its still there today, and now I wish the scroller bar could be set to "infinity" cause I'd like something I could set it on and walk away for the day with it one constantly. Guess I gotta bring back over my pixel flipper. But this is also why I ask if you feel the slide will do it any good.
I just find it absolutely ridiculous that IN ONE HOUR, IR can set in that takes DAYS TO REPAIR. I also find it ridiculous that The History Channels logo, unlike every other channel's is so bright and full color. It absurd. I really wish we all could team up and write these channels and explain IR and BI to them, and say, a logo is cool, but grey it out a lot and make it about 50% translucent. A lot of channels do have it like that, and kudos to them. But the History channel and CNN need to understand.... OR be sued for people's new TV's !
We are writing out letter/email today - how about any of you ? Please. I figure a Plasma TV thread is the perfect place to start this campaign. So far I got The History Channel, and CNN as the most obtrusive IR/BI Logos. Remember, we are not asking them to totally remove these logo screen stamps (cause they never will do that), BUT all we are asking is they become grayed out (no color) and also be 50% translucent. Channels G4 and AMC are perfect examples of channels doing a correct IR/BI safe logo screen stamp.
Originally Posted by rogo
Originally Posted by JoelxD
Thanks Rogo, guess thats what I'll have to do. After buying the TV, did you (or anyone reading this) ever connect it to the internet ? Then get offered the "Firmware Upgrade" ?
Yes, I have upgraded the firmware since getting the TV. That said, I've never tried to name the inputs. I only really use HDMI 1 (occasionally HDMI 2) and the default names are fine for me.
K, thanks for this confirmation. I still haven't called Panasonic. Gonna try that today. Just trippin on our IR (hopefully only IR) we got yesterday. Been trying to erase it ever since, no luck. All in 1 hour of a show ! (read above post if you care to).
Bad thing about this guys is, The History Channel is my moms favorite channel. She would like to watch it for hours everyday. Now, even if we do get rid of this IR, she obviously wont be able to. Lets think about this properly here, If 1 hour of viewing The History Channel IR'ed the tv so bad that it is taking days of constant medicine to repair it... Then how would she watch a couple hours one day, and then want to watch it AGAIN the next day BEFORE the time it took to completely rid the IR ? This would compound into BI for sure.
She's already talking about trading it in and getting the TV I got. At this point, IDK what to say to her.