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lol

Its bad about double posting for some reason.
It's a phone! eek.gif

You're supposed to talk on a phone. If God meant for phones to be used for writing, she would have included a typewriter ribbon.

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Its bad about double posting for some reason.
Ive noticed. Just messin with ya. smile.gif

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It's a phone! eek.gif

You're supposed to talk on a phone. If God meant for phones to be used for writing, she would have included a typewriter ribbon.
She? eek.gif Oh no. rolleyes.gif

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It's a phone! eek.gif

You're supposed to talk on a phone. If God meant for phones to be used for writing, she would have included a typewriter ribbon.
She? eek.gif Oh no. rolleyes.gif
That's right and you are already on the wrong list. cool.gif

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That's right and you are already on the wrong list. cool.gif
Really? Thats rather incredibly presumptuous of you. Thank God youre not always right. But now I know where I stand with you. cool.gif

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Aight, here is my data from tonight.

353 hours, mll is still reading 0.0023fL in 60hz mode. I get 0.0018fL in 96hz mode.
Dynamic contrast ratio per Chromapure and 6.5% windows was 17,964 to 1.
Static CR, according to Chromapure and a ANSI checkerboard was 9,582 to 1.

Just for comparison, the GT30 was 9,135 to 1 and 4,722 to 1.

Grayscale


Gamma (2.25 target)


Advanced CMS (the first time I calibrated to 75% Amplitude 100% Saturation, but after speaking with a couple of guys that do it for a living on here, I could see where 75% Amplitude and 75% Saturation would make a better choice. Here are the results.)

75% A / 100% S


75% A / 75% S


As you can see in the first chart, 100% is on the money, but with some of the colors 25-75 is wonky. On the second chart, 100% is a little off, but the results on 25-75 for all the colors is better IMO. 75/75 is the way to go.

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And here is my 75/75 result vs THX

THX Cinema


75 A / 75 S
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Really? Thats rather incredibly presumptuous of you. Thank God youre not always right. But now I know where I stand with you. cool.gif
God can't be presumptuous -- I know because she told me so. wink.gif

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God can't be presumptuous -- I know because she told me so. wink.gif
lol You are misguided. Have you been keeping up with your medications?

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What kind of meter are you using and what are you using for your patterns?

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Yes sir. You dont have 1500 hrs on that VT yet? When did you get it? I have 2411 on mine and got it in June.

Not even close maybe 400 to 500, had it about 5 weeks

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Not even close maybe 400 to 500, had it about 5 weeks
OK. I got the impression that you have had it for a while.

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Nope that that new tv smell hasn't quite worn off lol

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What kind of meter are you using and what are you using for your patterns?

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Funny how I'm actually looking forward to having 1500-1700 hrs on this thing :d
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Just picked up the TC-P65VT50 floor model from Sears. How do I verify the hours of operation on this model? I could not find an option on the TV or in the service menu. Also, there are two nicks in the glass...anyone have suggestions for repair? Would a simple glass resin used for automobiles or glasses work?
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Google check hours Panasonic plasma. Its easy to check.

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Just picked up the TC-P65VT50 floor model from Sears. How do I verify the hours of operation on this model? I could not find an option on the TV or in the service menu. Also, there are two nicks in the glass...anyone have suggestions for repair? Would a simple glass resin used for automobiles or glasses work?
Any damage to glass can grow into a panel failure. The hours on the display are meaningless compared to the possibility that the glass will crack. For me if it's bad enough to need repair, it's too bad to own. Anything you do to the glass will effect the filter if that filter is on the outside surface. I don't own a Panasonic, so I don't know where the filter is located.

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Thanks gadgtfreek. Of course my searches for hours of operation, usage hours, etc...with the specific model didn't give me anything. I didn't think to just search for "panasonic plasma." wink.gif 2,905hrs / 303 power cycles.


Thanks htwaits, you're right. I shouldn't settle for a damaged screen and try to repair it on my own. I called Sears. They will take a return of the TV and I'm going to check one of their other floor models at another location....the stores won't exchange evenly since the other store manager won't agree to take the unit and take a loss on sale. I forgot to mention the TV was damaged when they took it off the floor...I looked over it with a fine tooth comb and didn't find any issues when I put the money down.
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Thanks gadgtfreek. Of course my searches for hours of operation, usage hours, etc...with the specific model didn't give me anything. I didn't think to just search for "panasonic plasma." wink.gif 2,905hrs / 303 power cycles.


Thanks htwaits, you're right. I shouldn't settle for a damaged screen and try to repair it on my own. I called Sears. They will take a return of the TV and I'm going to check one of their other floor models at another location....the stores won't exchange evenly since the other store manager won't agree to take the unit and take a loss on sale. I forgot to mention the TV was damaged when they took it off the floor...I looked over it with a fine tooth comb and didn't find any issues when I put the money down.
Good luck with the next one. smile.gif

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As you can see in the first chart, 100% is on the money, but with some of the colors 25-75 is wonky. On the second chart, 100% is a little off, but the results on 25-75 for all the colors is better IMO. 75/75 is the way to go.

Curious what you used for the 75/75 patterns ? I don't see this option on my AVSHD disc.

I tried calibrating with Chromapure and the AVS disc last night and all I managed to complete was the grayscale after a good 2 hours. The VT50 menu structure really is frustrating in how it jumps back to the larger sub menu after just a few seconds of inactivity. I hope Panasonic comes up with a firmware update to change this behavior or at least allow it to be disabled. On top of that my i1 Pro would lock up every 15-20 minutes and the only way I could get it started again was to pull the plug on the meter and restart Chromapure. I'm tempted to start using ColorHCFR. I would get some slow reads with ColorHCFR in the past but never complete lock up.

On the plus side, the 10 pt grayscale adjustments really do work. It's great to be able to just get close with the 2 pt and really dial it in with the 10 pt.

Appreciate all your feedback !

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Mascior's disc in the calibration forum is well laid out, and has recently added 75% amp / 75% saturation windows. Best way to get around fighting Custom mode menu is to use ControlCal.

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Mascior's disc in the calibration forum is well laid out, and has recently added 75% amp / 75% saturation windows. Best way to get around fighting Custom mode menu is to use ControlCal.

Same here.

I'm using the 75%/75% 5% APL patterns which are located on the "Next" page. Didn't seem them at first so it's easy to miss.

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Mascior's disc in the calibration forum is well laid out, and has recently added 75% amp / 75% saturation windows. Best way to get around fighting Custom mode menu is to use ControlCal.

Thanks. I just found Mascior's disc in the calibration forum and will give it a try.

Do you use ControlCal ? If so, does it offer a complete menu set for our VT50's ? I had heard of it but never looked into it. For $35, I think it would be well worth it based on the aggravation I experienced last night.

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Do you use ControlCal ? If so, does it offer a complete menu set for our VT50's ? I had heard of it but never looked into it. For $35, I think it would be well worth it based on the aggravation I experienced last night.
I think the donation for ControlCal to support a VT50 is $50, not $35. But still well worth it, believe me.
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I think the donation for ControlCal to support a VT50 is $50, not $35. But still well worth it, believe me.

Yes - not only does it make is super easy to change settings, but you can backup and import other users settings with it as well.

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Thanks. I just found Mascior's disc in the calibration forum and will give it a try.

Do you use ControlCal ? If so, does it offer a complete menu set for our VT50's ? I had heard of it but never looked into it. For $35, I think it would be well worth it based on the aggravation I experienced last night.

I have it, works well. I don't always use it though, Custom isn't that bad to move around in, but the ISF access is def faster.

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I have it, works well. I don't always use it though, Custom isn't that bad to move around in, but the ISF access is def faster.

Where it comes in handy imo is trying out other settings by loading a file and copying settings from one input to another.

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