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Custom picture mode has separate memory for each input. If you want every input to have the same settings, you have to do it manually.

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Custom picture mode has separate memory for each input. If you want every input to have the same settings, you have to do it manually.

I highly recommend buying controlcal for this.

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had it for 2 days, and gotta say nice PQ. Im still not satisfied with blacks, there getting closer, but still would like a little darker, in a black room, a full black screen still looks dark gray, but darker than VT25. Im using settings from Home Theater mag, with a couple tweaks. Looks very nice, panel brightness is up there, in a dark room with back light, id say 40 Ftl. or so. I see a little too red in shadows, but its common, and should be alleviated with Kevin Miller calibration. Im not sure why no one can see false contours in 96Hz, not just flickering but on pans you can see blurs of green, and purple on edges of faces, very distracting, cant get rid of it, which sucks cuz id love to put 96Hz on and have the benefits of slightly darker black frown.gif Gamma looks very good, and i dont even think its 2.4, which is strange cuz it looks like a steeper gamma, here are my settings
Picture mode Custom
Contrast 84
Brightness 55
Color 45
Tint 0
Sharpness 10
Color temp. Warm2
Color mgmt. Off
C.A.T.S.: Off Off
Video NR Off
Pro settings
Color space Normal
W/B high R -2
W/B high G +1
W/B high B +5
W/B low R +6
W/B low G -4
W/B low B +3
W/B Detail Adjustment *
Hue, Saturation, Luminance **
Black extension 0
Gamma adjustment 2.4
Panel brightness Mid
Contour emphasis Off
AGC 0 0
Gamma detail adjustmentt Default
Screen format Full
HD Size 2
HDMI/DVI RGB Range Auto
Advanced picture
3D/YC filter Off
Color Matrix (component only) A
Block NR Off
Mosquito NR Off
Motion smoother Weak
1080p pure direct On
3:2 pulldown Auto
24p Direct in 96Hz or 60Hz cant decide
Pixel Orbiter Enable
4:3 side bars Mid

* W/B detail adjustment

IRE 20 30 60 70 80 90 100
R gain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
G gain 0 0 0 0 0 1 2
Blue gain 0 0 -2 0 0 0 -1

**Hue, Saturation, Luminance

R G B C M Y
Hue 0 8 3 2 2 2
Saturation -11 2 -1 1 2 -1
Luminance 0 0 0 0 0 0
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had it for 2 days, and gotta say nice PQ. Im still not satisfied with blacks, there getting closer, but still would like a little darker, in a black room, a full black screen still looks dark gray, but darker than VT25. Im using settings from Home Theater mag, with a couple tweaks. Looks very nice, panel brightness is up there, in a dark room with back light, id say 40 Ftl. or so. I see a little too red in shadows, but its common, and should be alleviated with Kevin Miller calibration. Im not sure why no one can see false contours in 96Hz, not just flickering but on pans you can see blurs of green, and purple on edges of faces, very distracting, cant get rid of it, which sucks cuz id love to put 96Hz on and have the benefits of slightly darker black frown.gif Gamma looks very good, and i dont even think its 2.4, which is strange cuz it looks like a steeper gamma, here are my settings
Picture mode Custom
Contrast 84
Brightness 55
Color 45
Tint 0
Sharpness 10
Color temp. Warm2
Color mgmt. Off
C.A.T.S.: Off Off
Video NR Off
Pro settings
Color space Normal
W/B high R -2
W/B high G +1
W/B high B +5
W/B low R +6
W/B low G -4
W/B low B +3
W/B Detail Adjustment *
Hue, Saturation, Luminance **
Black extension 0
Gamma adjustment 2.4
Panel brightness Mid
Contour emphasis Off
AGC 0 0
Gamma detail adjustmentt Default
Screen format Full
HD Size 2
HDMI/DVI RGB Range Auto
Advanced picture
3D/YC filter Off
Color Matrix (component only) A
Block NR Off
Mosquito NR Off
Motion smoother Weak
1080p pure direct On
3:2 pulldown Auto
24p Direct in 96Hz or 60Hz cant decide
Pixel Orbiter Enable
4:3 side bars Mid
* W/B detail adjustment
IRE 20 30 60 70 80 90 100
R gain 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
G gain 0 0 0 0 0 1 2
Blue gain 0 0 -2 0 0 0 -1
**Hue, Saturation, Luminance
R G B C M Y
Hue 0 8 3 2 2 2
Saturation -11 2 -1 1 2 -1
Luminance 0 0 0 0 0 0

have you tried the thx setting?

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thx still looks light in black level, idk if anyone else has measured a deeper black between thx modes and custom, but the blur is there either way, at 96Hz, idk,

Edit, blacks arent bad, with a movie, or image with light, and my backlight, you can barely see light on the black area, i guess my expectation were a little higher,
i changed the gamma adjustment to 2.6, and i like it, i had to increase brighness to 58 and color down to 43, but the gamma looks very nice, gives picture more pop, i watch in a very dark room,
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thx still looks light in black level, idk if anyone else has measured a deeper black between thx modes and custom, but the blur is there either way, at 96Hz, idk,
Edit, blacks arent bad, with a movie, or image with light, and my backlight, you can barely see light on the black area, i guess my expectation were a little higher,
i changed the gamma adjustment to 2.6, and i like it, i had to increase brighness to 58 and color down to 43, but the gamma looks very nice, gives picture more pop, i watch in a very dark room,

can you do 48 instead of 96?

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ehh, i tried, i think ill leave at 60, thanx.
also i feel like a noob, but i looked all over for d-nices settings and i cant find them, does anyone know, thanx again
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Just started using TJN's settings from Home Theater Magazine and they look excellent! This will definitely work until I get it calibrated.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I'm using Gamma setting 2.6 for dark room; 2.4 for daytime. Anyone else use 2.6 for night?

Can you please tell me where I could find TJN's settings you mentioned?
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Is there a visual difference/perception between a color temperature of 6500K and 6800K? What would it be?

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6800K would be a bit more bluish.

Do keep in mind that D65 isn't exactly the same as 6500 Kelvin.

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Can you please tell me where I could find TJN's settings you mentioned?

www.hometheater.com

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OK, this will sound dumb, but then again if you think about it...

The pixel orbiter setting has "enable" and "disable" option. OK, so it doesn't say "enabled", as in already "turned on", so proper English would suggest I need to still activate it when it displays "enable". But I believe the meaning of "enable" here is that it is already enabled, correct? The thing is that I can't recognize if the pixels are orbiting or not, so no way to tell if it's truly enabled or not... Anyone who can positively confirm this? Thanks!
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You are correct that the English is not proper, but the way the menus work is that whatever is displayed is what is currently set, so "Enable" showing means that it is enabled, while "Disable" showing means it is disabled.

An easier solution is to select "Size 2" under Aspect Adjustment, as this disables the pixel orbiter, but does not gray out the "Pixel Orbiter" menu item as are other "not possible to be changed" items.
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I've been using warm1 as my starting point for 10 pt grayscale calibration and find that there are quite a few "between" levels that are off.

Has anyone found one of the other color temperatures, once corrected with 2 point, more consistant across the grayscale range?

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I've been using warm1 as my starting point for 10 pt grayscale calibration and find that there are quite a few "between" levels that are off.
Has anyone found one of the other color temperatures, once corrected with 2 point, more consistant across the grayscale range?

I find when doing a 21 point Grayscale/RGB balance, warm one, panel brightness mid, contrast around 78, brightness around 55. This gives me a very well balanced 21 point grayscale and keeps me at about 6500K. And yes I do a 30% and 100% 2 point that I use my VT50 RGB high low settings in custom mode or if doing a ISF mode I use the RGB ISF settings in my VT50 30% and 100%.

On a side note, if using the ISF mode in are VT50's when doing a 21 point GS don't use 109% peak clipping pattern, use the 100% IRE pattern when setting the 100% IRE for your 2 Point. I would also be very careful when doing a custom mode 2 point also setting your high RGB.

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Forgive a question that's probably already been asked.
Has D Nice posted settings for the VT50 on this forum or Hi Def Junkies?
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Forgive a question that's probably already been asked.
Has D Nice posted settings for the VT50 on this forum or Hi Def Junkies?

No.

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Speaking of posted settings, apart from Katzmaier's settings on cnet, are there any other certified calibrator's settings out there right now for VT50? I actually have a free Best Buy calibration for my VT50, but I haven't scheduled it yet, as I am having a feeling BB will not do as good of a job as even posted settings by really good calibrators. Any thoughts?
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I've been using warm1 as my starting point for 10 pt grayscale calibration and find that there are quite a few "between" levels that are off.
Has anyone found one of the other color temperatures, once corrected with 2 point, more consistant across the grayscale range?

Are you running the latest firmware? That was one of the problems fixed.

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Bumping for the new owners. This was buried on page 6

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Anyone have any settings for Game Mode. I'm sitting just at about 100 hrs didn't try any gaming til about 60 hrs and then I only played 30mins of BF3. I just got done playing about 2hrs of BF3 and no IR. I did turn the Contrast down to 45 from 100. I figure I could start bumping up the Contrast every 50 hrs or so. If and when we see any signs of IR what's the best way to go about besides just watching full screen TV. Do we run the Slides or Screen Wipe I keep reading mixed comments about them for IR.
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Just bought a 55 VT50 last Saturday. So far, I've tried the settings from Cnet, wmwilker and the home theater link posted above. I'm liking the home theater settings the best for natural looks, but my better half says it looks washed out. She says she prefers bright colors, even if it doesn't look real. She says- "I don't watch TV for real life". Ha...uggh. rolleyes.gif
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Just posted in the main VT50 thread and realized I should have done so here...

I've recently purchased the 65VT50 (have around 200 hours) and have been using Katzmaier's settings from CNET as I thought this would be a good starting point. Unfortunately, any TV programming with dark areas is being badly crushed on this TV. Interestingly, when I went into the Gamma adjustment settings and changed them from his recommendation of 2.4 to a lower value I can finally see details in dark portions of the picture.

For example, the recent Julia Roberts fantasy movie Mirror Mirror was playing on a pay channel and at the start of the film there are two guys riding on horses. At the original Gamma adjustment of 2.4, the horses were black and I couldn't make out any hair on them. However, once I changed the setting to 1.8 or 2.0 I could finally see some hair on the horses and noticed that they were in fact brown horses!

Could this mean there is an issue with the plasma or the signal being fed from my cable provider? I understand there is variation in panels, but could there be this much variation that blacks would be so crushed?
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I've noticed the same thing on mine. The blacks are great... too great!!

There was an announcer on football the other night. Wearing a black jacket over a black shirt. At least I think that is what it was, but all you could see was all black, with a head floating above it. If I turned the brightness up enough to see the difference between the shirt and jacket..and start to get some detail.. the rest of the picture washed out.


Unfortunately, I don't know anything about what all these settings mean, so for now I am going to live with it until someone that knows what they are doing posts better settings.
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I've noticed the same thing on mine. The blacks are great... too great!!
There was an announcer on football the other night. Wearing a black jacket over a black shirt. At least I think that is what it was, but all you could see was all black, with a head floating above it. If I turned the brightness up enough to see the difference between the shirt and jacket..and start to get some detail.. the rest of the picture washed out.
Unfortunately, I don't know anything about what all these settings mean, so for now I am going to live with it until someone that knows what they are doing posts better settings.

That's black crush, you need a calibration disk, avs709 is free here. Brightness only controls black level, contrast effects white level. Did you try one of the THX pre-sets ?

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Just posted in the main VT50 thread and realized I should have done so here...
I've recently purchased the 65VT50 (have around 200 hours) and have been using Katzmaier's settings from CNET as I thought this would be a good starting point. Unfortunately, any TV programming with dark areas is being badly crushed on this TV. Interestingly, when I went into the Gamma adjustment settings and changed them from his recommendation of 2.4 to a lower value I can finally see details in dark portions of the picture.
For example, the recent Julia Roberts fantasy movie Mirror Mirror was playing on a pay channel and at the start of the film there are two guys riding on horses. At the original Gamma adjustment of 2.4, the horses were black and I couldn't make out any hair on them. However, once I changed the setting to 1.8 or 2.0 I could finally see some hair on the horses and noticed that they were in fact brown horses!
Could this mean there is an issue with the plasma or the signal being fed from my cable provider? I understand there is variation in panels, but could there be this much variation that blacks would be so crushed?

CNET's settings are usually not too good, just poke around here you will find much better settings. Just a basic cal disc will get you 70% there.

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That's black crush, you need a calibration disk, avs709 is free here. Brightness only controls black level, contrast effects white level. Did you try one of the THX pre-sets ?



Yes, the THX cinema is darker as well.

Where can I download a calibration disk, and can it be ran from a usb thumbdrive?

Thank you.
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CNET's settings are usually not too good, just poke around here you will find much better settings. Just a basic cal disc will get you 70% there.





So far I've tried the settings from Cnet, wmwilker and the home theater link posted above. If you know of any better, please point me in the right direction.

Thanks.
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CNET's settings are usually not too good, just poke around here you will find much better settings. Just a basic cal disc will get you 70% there.

Thanks, Chunon. I'm just surprised as many have raved about those particular settings as well as the default Panasonic THX settings (eg THX Cinema). In both cases, the blacks were badly crushed on my system and I can't see how others would find it acceptable. Maybe my HD feed or PVR is the problem, or maybe my plasma requires more massaging than most?
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