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post #901 of 2157 Old 01-15-2013, 11:29 AM
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Just make it very clear you do not want BB calibrator to use the service menu, and you should be fine.

Calman is a real Calibration software and there for not Cheap. If you want to get into the calibration hobby then yes I would say yes get Calman 5 (at-least) Control and a I1 Display pro. If you just want to input Calman's settings and open ISF modes then just get the cheapest Calman.
However many of the calibration settings that are posted by DIY's are done using Controlcal, and if that's the case you can use Controlcal to open and input these ISF settings.
I don't use Controlcal to input my settings so Controlcal will not work for my setting. Controlcal is a tool to open ISF modes on a VT50 and input settings, its not a calibration program like Calman.

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Good info - thank you. smile.gif I would love to try my hand at calibration but don't have the time right now. So I will probably just go with ControlCal. I will also take a chance on BB's free calibration, telling them no service menu, and report back on how it went.
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For those who have gone thru the process to create a separate 3D calibration, did you find it makes much of a difference as compared to simply copying over the ISF Day settings?

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For those who have gone thru the process to create a separate 3D calibration, did you find it makes much of a difference as compared to simply copying over the ISF Day settings?

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Made a difference for me. The calibration is adjusted for the dark lenses on the 3d glasses. Of you look at the image without glasses, the image looks VERY bright and washed out. With glasses however, it looks great.
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Made a difference for me. The calibration is adjusted for the dark lenses on the 3d glasses. Of you look at the image without glasses, the image looks VERY bright and washed out. With glasses however, it looks great.

That is interesting. I compared my ISF Day copied settings with the built-in THX 3D settings and the ISF Day copied is brighter.

You must really have pumped-up the output for your calibrated 3D settings.

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You can put them in custom mode manually. I highly recommend ControlCal though, it's a small investment for an incredible amount of convenience.

So is the ISF mode really the same as custom but the ISF modes are just locked? Can I just input people's (yours) ISF settings into my Custom mode? I didn't think about doing that or know that I could. For some reason I thought there was some difference.
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you can do that...

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Just received this set from Amazon this afternoon. Am trying to adjust the settings based on some of the suggestions in this thread, but I can't access them (specifically color management). Does anyone know why?
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Just received this set from Amazon this afternoon. Am trying to adjust the settings based on some of the suggestions in this thread, but I can't access them (specifically color management). Does anyone know why?

Did you switch to Custom mode to get to CMS?

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Did you switch to Custom mode to get to CMS?

Yes, and still grayed out to the off position.
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Yes, and still grayed out to the off position.

Something's not right. Custom mode gives you access to all the color and gamma settings you could ever want. This is a U.S. model, correct?

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Yes, and still grayed out to the off position.

Make sure you are in home use and not store Demo modesmile.gif

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Make sure you are in home use and not store Demo mode:)

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ISF Night Settings - They can be used in the Custom mode

ISF Night.pdf 69k .pdf file

I recently received my 65VT50. I plan to have it professionally calibrated once I have over 300 hours. In the meantime, I am using wmwilker's settings in custom mode. I have almost all of the settings entered and saved. There are 2 that are greyed out and I cannot change. They are: 1080p pure direct - off and 24p Direct in - 60. I must have another setting incorrect that does not allow me to change these. Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thank you.
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those those, input 1080p signal

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I recently received my 65VT50. I plan to have it professionally calibrated once I have over 300 hours. In the meantime, I am using wmwilker's settings in custom mode. I have almost all of the settings entered and saved. There are 2 that are greyed out and I cannot change. They are: 1080p pure direct - off and 24p Direct in - 60. I must have another setting incorrect that does not allow me to change these. Any help or direction would be appreciated. Thank you.

You only see them when a 1080p signal goes into the tv. Use your bluray player and you'll see them.
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I think I've got it. Thank you for the help.
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What's the point of offering a 48hz setting for 24p if it is going to flicker that badly?
Do people here prefer the 96 or the 60 setting?
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What's the point of offering a 48hz setting for 24p if it is going to flicker that badly?
Do people here prefer the 96 or the 60 setting?

I'm getting the best picture with 60hz. 48 is a joke. 96 isn't bad but you can still see a tiny bit of flicker.

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I agree, 48 is a joke
But since 96 is an even multiple of 24, isn't that better than 60, which isn't....
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I agree, 48 is a joke
But since 96 is an even multiple of 24, isn't that better than 60, which isn't....

You would think intuitively that 96 would be better than 60, but both multiples of 24 are inferior to the 60hz. Jeff Meier did my set last Friday (8 days ago) and his final analysis was to use 60.

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I am trying to Autocal my 65" VT50, and have a question. How do you access the patterns in the Panasonic so you can then Autocal.
I get as far as getting into ISF mode, and then try to find the source of the patterns, and they do not show up anywhere. According to Spectracal's website, the patterns should be there somewhere, or am I confused again? I was told I would not need any type of pattern generator or DVD to Autocal using Calman5 with a Control license, that there would be one that Calman could open up.
I am using WiFi to connect and having no issues with that.

Thanks for any help you might have on how to access the patterns.
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Thanks for the info!!!
But my original question remains: why the OFFERING of 48 as a setting if its gonna look like THAT?!?!
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Many Calibrators recommend 60 still.

I know some owners like 60, others 96.. it's best for you to try both 60 and 96 on your reference content and see what you like.

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Thanks for the info!!!
But my original question remains: why the OFFERING of 48 as a setting if its gonna look like THAT?!?!

Good question...perhaps some real Panasonic afficianados can enlighten us!
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That 48 hz setting has been around for years and has never served any useful purpose in 2d some use it to mitigate crosstalk in 3d

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That's correct 48hz for 3d is recommended if ur getting a lot of crosstalk
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Has wmwilker come out with his 3D settings yet? biggrin.gif I applied the settings I found in Home Theater mag and I think they look terrible.
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Has wmwilker come out with his 3D settings yet? biggrin.gif I applied the settings I found in Home Theater mag and I think they look terrible.

Not sure if these will work for you, but they are the 3D (day) settings that my calibrator entered. ISF Day 3D.xml 3k .xml file

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Not sure if these will work for you, but they are the 3D (day) settings that my calibrator entered. ISF Day 3D.xml 3k .xml file

Your results may vary...

Hey thanks for that. My TV is in a dark basement, so ideally a night setting would be best. Might give'm a try anywho.
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Hey thanks for that. My TV is in a dark basement, so ideally a night setting would be best. Might give'm a try anywho.

Just bring the contrast down. No need to get too complicated.

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