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I'll be receiving my Panny VT50, next week. So ... I figured, a VT50 settings thread wouldn't hurt.
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I think D-Nice is going to post his settings in his thread but now that these are in the hands of owners, time to get the ball rolling


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I think D-Nice is going to post his settings in his thread but now that these are in the hands of owners, time to get the ball rolling


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Agreed, I think he has space saved for them on the HDJ site under the ST50 in the 2012 Panasonic Settings/Issues Thread
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I get mine Tuesday and I'll try to do an early calibration Wednesday evening. I'm looking forward to see how well these calibrate

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@Turbe

Are the ISF modes working fine with the Controlcal software, and do you have any calibrated results from any professional ISf calibrators using your software?
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multi-points (both w/b and gamma) are fine and behaving as expected with shipping f/w as development, sat/hue cms controls as expected, some odd cms lum control behavior in shipping f/w.. I want to note in regards to the gamut performance on these, I spoke to D-Nice about this and there is a wide variance for Green Luminance performance on the Panasonics, some are right on, some spike and no correction can help.

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Still no settings for custom mode yet? Guess I'll be playing around a lil tonight.
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Still no settings for custom mode yet? Guess I'll be playing around a lil tonight.

Cat isn't vivid mode for sports?

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Cat isn't vivid mode for sports?

I will never use vivid mode unless I have strobe lights pointed at the screen. This mode is commonly referred to as "torch mode" because everything is jacked brightness contrast etc.. And results in an extremely over bright, out of touch with colors picture.
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I will never use vivid mode unless I have strobe lights pointed at the screen. This mode is commonly referred to as "torch mode" because everything is jacked brightness contrast etc.. And results in an extremely over bright, out of touch with colors picture.

Ah ok I was wondering about that, hopefully we can get a setting for football this fall

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Still no settings I know guys are mentioning they have some in the owners thread lets get some poppin so I can try it out and see what I think..
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Heard from Ed Johnson (Calibrator) yesterday who just worked on a VT50 at VE store using ControlCAL... His feedback to me: 46fL in isf Day, grayscale gamma excellent (all 10pt Controls working as expected in ControlCAL and Ed stated he was very impressed with ControlCAL's implementation), color gamut very good despite CMS Lum controls not doing anything (highest deltaE 94 is for Blue lum of 1.0 in the Gamut).. MLL .0022fL (he has Klein K-10).

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I'll be receiving my Panny VT50, next week. So ... I figured, a VT50 settings thread wouldn't hurt.

Did you get your TV yet. Panasonic is telling me that it is still on pre-order and they are not expecting shipment until the 25th. I think this is B.S.

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First of all I want to say these are some initial settings I've come up on my 65VT50. I'm sure as I get more hours on the set it will change.
These settings are from my display and would need to be tweaked on a different display
I came up with these settings using an i1 Pro and ChromaPure. The i1 Pro is not very good at low levels and at 10% my de was about 4. That reading may or may not be accurate. 20% was less than 2de but the rest of the grayscale was less than 1%. The ftL was 36 which would be somewhat dull in a bright room.
Here are the settings:

Picture mode - Custom
Contrast - 81
Brightness - 54
Color - 50
Tint - 0
Sharpness - +6
Color temp - Warm 2
CATS - Off
Pro Settings:
Color Space - Normal
W/B high R - +3
W/B high G - 0
W/B high B - +2
W/B low R - -1
W/B low G - -1
W/B low B - -1
W/B detail adjustment (you may or may not want to mess with these.)
Input signal level 10 IRE
R - +5
G - 0
B - +2
20 IRE
R - +6
G - 0
B - -1
30 IRE
R - +4
G - 0
B - 0
40 IRE
R - +2
G - 0
B - +3
50 IRE
R - +1
G - 0
B - +2
60 IRE
R - 0
G - 0
B - 0
70 IRE
R- 0
G - 0
B - +1
80 IRE
R - -2
G - 0
B - +1
90 IRE
R - -2
G - +1
B - +1
100 IRE
R - -1
G - +2
B - +1

Red hue - -3
Green hue - +16
Blue hue - +6
Red saturation - -7
Green saturation - +19
Blue saturation - +11
Color detail adjustment
Yellow hue - +1
Cyan hue - +5
Magenta hue - -1
Yellow saturation - +1
Cyan saturation - 0
Magenta saturation - -5

Leave all the luminance settings at 0

Black extension - 0
Gamma adjustment - 2.4
Panel Brightness = Mid
Contour emphasis - Off
AGC - 0
Gamma detail adjustment
Input signal level
10 IRE Gain - -7
20 IRE Gain - -3
30 IRE Gain - 0
40 IRE Gain - -1
50 IRE Gain - -2
60 IRE Gain - 0
70 IRE Gain - 0
80 IRE Gain - -1
90 IRE Gain - -1
100 IRE Gain - 0

I have my HDMI range at Auto with Content at Auto
Motion smoother - Off
1080p pure direct - On
Black level - Light

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First of all I want to say these are some initial settings I've come up on my 65VT50. I'm sure as I get more hours on the set it will change.
These settings are from my display and would need to be tweaked on a different display
I came up with these settings using an i1 Pro and ChromaPure. The i1 Pro is not very good at low levels and at 10% my de was about 4. That reading may or may not be accurate. 20% was less than 2de but the rest of the grayscale was less than 1%. The ftL was 36 which would be somewhat dull in a bright room.
Here are the settings:

Picture mode - Custom
Contrast - 81
Brightness - 54
Color - 50
Tint - 0
Sharpness - +6
Color temp - Warm 2
CATS - Off
Pro Settings:
Color Space - Normal
W/B high R - +3
W/B high G - 0
W/B high B - +2
W/B low R - -1
W/B low G - -1
W/B low B - -1
W/B detail adjustment (you may or may not want to mess with these.)
Input signal level 10 IRE
R - +5
G - 0
B - +2
20 IRE
R - +6
G - 0
B - -1
30 IRE
R - +4
G - 0
B - 0
40 IRE
R - +2
G - 0
B - +3
50 IRE
R - +1
G - 0
B - +2
60 IRE
R - 0
G - 0
B - 0
70 IRE
R- 0
G - 0
B - +1
80 IRE
R - -2
G - 0
B - +1
90 IRE
R - -2
G - +1
B - +1
100 IRE
R - -1
G - +2
B - +1

Red hue - -3
Green hue - +16
Blue hue - +6
Red saturation - -7
Green saturation - +19
Blue saturation - +11
Color detail adjustment
Yellow hue - +1
Cyan hue - +5
Magenta hue - -1
Yellow saturation - +1
Cyan saturation - 0
Magenta saturation - -5

Leave all the luminance settings at 0

Black extension - 0
Gamma adjustment - 2.4
Panel Brightness = Mid
Contour emphasis - Off
AGC - 0
Gamma detail adjustment
Input signal level
10 IRE Gain - -7
20 IRE Gain - -3
30 IRE Gain - 0
40 IRE Gain - -1
50 IRE Gain - -2
60 IRE Gain - 0
70 IRE Gain - 0
80 IRE Gain - -1
90 IRE Gain - -1
100 IRE Gain - 0

I have my HDMI range at Auto with Content at Auto
Motion smoother - Off
1080p pure direct - On
Black level - Light

I welcome any comments and criticism(I think)

Looks great. Thanks!!!!
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wmwilker,

I'm a little concerned about the 36 ft lamberts in that during the daytime, my living room is flooded with lots of light.

Have you attempted to punch up the peak whites and if so, what were your results?

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First of all I want to say these are some initial settings I've come up on my 65VT50. I'm sure as I get more hours on the set it will change.
These settings are from my display and would need to be tweaked on a different display
I came up with these settings using an i1 Pro and ChromaPure. The i1 Pro is not very good at low levels and at 10% my de was about 4. That reading may or may not be accurate. 20% was less than 2de but the rest of the grayscale was less than 1%. The ftL was 36 which would be somewhat dull in a bright room.
Here are the settings:


They look good on my 55vt Mike (untill D-nice calibrates it next month)

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wmwilker,

I'm a little concerned about the 36 ft lamberts in that during the daytime, my living room is flooded with lots of light.

Have you attempted to punch up the peak whites and if so, what were your results?
Jim, I'm going to attach a txt file that was exported from ControlCal. I don't think you'll have any problem decoding it but it looks confusing. I have it in an xml file but I'm not sure AVS would appreciate me uploading an xml file. If it's ok I'll zip it up and upload it. It's much easier to read.
The file is what I've got for my ISF Cal Day settings and should convert to Custom Mode with no problem. The output on it is 41 ftL which should be fine unless your room is really bright.

 

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Jim, I'm going to attach a txt file that was exported from ControlCal. I don't think you'll have any problem decoding it but it looks confusing. I have it in an xml file but I'm not sure AVS would appreciate me uploading an xml file. If it's ok I'll zip it up and upload it. It's much easier to read.
The file is what I've got for my ISF Cal Day settings and should convert to Custom Mode with no problem. The output on it is 41 ftL which should be fine unless your room is really bright.
Many thanks wmwilker! My 65VT50 is on the way so I have saved these settings to try as soon as it arrives. As a community service I am reposting them with some formatting as I'm sure many folk will give up too easily and not make use of your good work. A quick question: How does this brightness level of 41ftL compare to the brightness level of the pre-programmed or virgin modes?? I have tried those 2 modes in the showroom and feel they would be adequately bright for my setting, but a little push even brighter would also be welcome.

 

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That text file is going to be hard to read so here are the setting for my ISF Day Mode.

Remember these settings may not look good on a different panel.

Contrast 86
Brightness 55
AGC 0
Black Ext 0
Color 46
Tint 0
Sharpness 8
WB high R -2
WB high g 0
WB high B 4
WB low R 8
WB low G 0
WB low B 0
Color Temp Warm 2
Gamma 2.4
Colorspace Normal
Panel Brightness Mid
CATS off
video NR off
Contour Emp Off

CMS
R hue -4
R sat -6
R lum 0
G hue 23
G sat 30
G lum 0
B hue 19
B sat 46
B lum 0
Y hue -14
Y sat 0
Y lum 0
C hue 3
C sat 0
C lum 0
M hue -5
M sat -14
M lum 0

10 Point White Balance

Level 10
R -7
G 0
B 3

Level 20
R -2
G 1
B -2

Level 30
R 0
G 0
B 1

Level 40
R 0
G 0
B 0

Level 50
R 0
G 0
B -1

Level 60
R 0
G 0
B 0

Level 70
R 0
G 0
B -3

Level 80
R -2
G 0
B -2

Level 90
R -2
G 1
B-2

Level 100
R -2
G 1
B -4

Gamma

Level 10 -2
Level 20 0
Level 30 0
40 0
50 0
60 0
70 0
80 -1
90 -3
100 0

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Many thanks wmwilker! My 65VT50 is on the way so I have saved these settings to try as soon as it arrives. As a community service I am reposting them with some formatting as I'm sure many folk will give up too easily and not make use of your good work. A quick question: How does this brightness level of 41ftL compare to the brightness level of the pre-programmed or virgin modes?? I have tried those 2 modes in the showroom and feel they would be adequately bright for my setting, but a little push even brighter would also be welcome.

you are a lot faster than me.
They are not as bright as Bright Room but the Contrast on my Bright Room is 100. That will clip all the brighter whites. I would try the settings and if you need it brighter you can up the Contrast a notch or 2. That will affect the grayscale but it may or may not be minimal. I don't have a lot of light because of trees so it's hard to judge. 41 ftL is too much for me in a dark room though.

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I hope to have my ISF Night settings this weekend. I have done one calibration in Night mode but it's in Normal Color Temp. It looks really good but I want to try it in Warm 2.

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Many thanks wmwilker! My 65VT50 is on the way so I have saved these settings to try as soon as it arrives. As a community service I am reposting them with some formatting as I'm sure many folk will give up too easily and not make use of your good work. A quick question: How does this brightness level of 41ftL compare to the brightness level of the pre-programmed or virgin modes?? I have tried those 2 modes in the showroom and feel they would be adequately bright for my setting, but a little push even brighter would also be welcome.

Those with ControlCAL who want to try them can simply Load his settings file which he posted HERE and Send the settings to your 65VT50 ISFccc memories.

Best to do a calibration yourself and once you do, please do post your calibration reports and Settings File.

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That text file is going to be hard to read so here are the setting for my ISF Day Mode.

Remember these settings my not look good on a different panel.

<<br /> <<br /> <<br />
CMS
R hue -4
R sat -6
R lum 0
G hue 23
G sat 30
G lum 0
B hue 19
B sat 46
B lum 0
Y hue -14 corrected value!
Y sat 0
Y lum 0
C hue 3
C sat 0
C lum 0
M hue -5
M sat -14
M lum 0

<<br /> <<br /> <

Minor correction in above relative to your original export, the value for should be -14 rather than 14. Don't know how much difference it would make, but better right than wrong!!
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Minor correction in above relative to your original export, the value for should be -14 rather than 14. Don't know how much difference it would make, but better right than wrong!!

that would make a big difference.
Thanks. I'll edit

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Hi wmwilker,

I'm using Calman DIY and an i1 Display Pro- how were you able to adjust the panel brightness (low-mid-high) in the ISF modes? I was able to "unlock" the ISF modes, but only to be controlled within Calman. As soon as I disconnect from the VT50, I can't get into the ISF Day Pro settings (set to "fixed).

Working through the flow in Calman, I couldn't find a setting for panel brightness (just regular black-level brightness), and I really need my "ISF Day" panel brightness to be set to high.

Also, what workflow do you use?

Thanks in advance!

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Hi wmwilker,

I'm using Calman DIY and an i1 Display Pro- how were you able to adjust the panel brightness (low-mid-high) in the ISF modes? I was able to "unlock" the ISF modes, but only to be controlled within Calman. As soon as I disconnect from the VT50, I can't get into the ISF Day Pro settings (set to "fixed).

Working through the flow in Calman, I couldn't find a setting for panel brightness (just regular black-level brightness), and I really need my "ISF Day" panel brightness to be set to high.

Also, what workflow do you use?

Thanks in advance!

I really not familiar with Calman as I use ChromaPure and ControlCal. The ControlCal has all the controls of the panel. I would think Calman would too. If I were you I'd check Calman's forum and see if you can get some answers there.
I left the panel brightness at Mid and turned up my contrast to where 254 was just clipped. I still had a bar at 253. I'm not sure it that is the correct way to do it but with a ftL @ 41 I'm happy. If there is a better way to do this I hope some of the more experienced calibrators will chime in.
I used the Disney WOW disk to set it and double checked it with the AVS HD and Spears & Munsil disk to confirm.

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I really not familiar with Calman as I use ChromaPure and ControlCal. The ControlCal has all the controls of the panel. I would think Calman would too. If I were you I'd check Calman's forum and see if you can get some answers there.
I left the panel brightness at Mid and turned up my contrast to where 254 was just clipped. I still had a bar at 253. I'm not sure it that is the correct way to do it but with a ftL @ 41 I'm happy. If there is a better way to do this I hope some of the more experienced calibrators will chime in.
I used the Disney WOW disk to set it and double checked it with the AVS HD and Spears & Munsil disk to confirm.

Yeah I just got ControlCal running. ftL@41 sounds pretty good... the reason why I was looking for the panel brightness option was because I couldn't seem to get past around ~20 ftL with the way it was by default. Trying again with brightness set to high... but I'm curious as to how you were able to do it with mid (my contrast is at 100).

Also, what are AGC, CATS, and Black Level Extension for? I noticed that AGC and BLE were set to non-zero by default in the ISF modes...

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You want to have AGC, BLE at 0 and CATS off... with PB at Med and Contrast @ 100 with 100 white 10% windowed pattern, what is your fL reading?

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