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Hi - i've narrowed down my plasma choices to these three TVs- they are all very closely priced and used.
TV will mostly be used for HDMI gaming from the PC and blu-ray movies. I also want a good "Motion Smoother" (intelligent frame creation) for video games and sports.

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From my research on avs, highdef and lot of other sources, ST50 because of lot of upgrades. People have gone ahead to make claims that ST50 is better than VT30. Must be. I ended with 60PM6700 coz was getting a great deal and saved some money. You don't buy TVs daily, get the best possible and biggest possible TV in the budget you had planned.
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There was a big upgrade from last year's Panasonic plasma models and this year, and resolved many of the main issues with the 2011 models.
Recommend stick with the 2012 models only - ST50 is the best deal with that in mind.
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I see very little improvement in any in panny's 2011 to 2012 models. I saw them side by side (st) and I tried to see improvements but Sorry , not there! @ best buy !
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I see very little improvement in any in panny's 2011 to 2012 models. I saw them side by side (st) and I tried to see improvements but Sorry , not there! @ best buy !

Green & Pink problems aside, the ST30 was a nice set - we had 3 of them in the 60" size, along with 1 (working) S30.
If it had not been for the Persistent Pink Tint, would have been happy to have kept the last ST30 we had.

Still, now have a 60" ST50, and the overall PQ clearly beats the ST30 - blacks are distinctly "blacker," the panel is brighter, and colors seem more vibrant overall (judging both on Cinema) - although suppose that could simply be a side effect of the increased contrast ratio.
If you were comparing the sets at Best Buy, their viewing environment may have masked the difference in PQ.

Toss in somewhat improved sound (not a major factor for most users), arguably better styling, and impressive "professional" reviews, and it would take a Significant Discount to make a ST30 seem a "better buy" than the 2012 panel,,,,
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I see very little improvement in any in panny's 2011 to 2012 models. I saw them side by side (st) and I tried to see improvements but Sorry , not there! @ best buy !
You won't notice differences in a very bright store and uncalibrated probably at vivid settings, but will at home in a darker environment with proper calibrated settings with non-demo video material.
2012 models have improved black level, brighter whites, more accurate color and don't have the issues reported on the 2011 models like flucuating blacks or green/pink blobs.
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