Originally Posted by trem0lo
Except for when the 500M was as low as $1600. For about a year there were good deals to be had on all Pioneer 9G models, even the signature elites.
This may mean nothing, but I watched part of Avatar on a 2012 Panny VT in a dark showroom. My wife and I both agreed that our 500M was better by a decent margin, especially in dark scenes. Whatever special sauce is in the 9G Kuro, the VT didn't have it. Still an excellent display though, and I hope the 2013 models step up to the plate.
I can tell you for a fact that the 500m is not that much better. I actually had the same reaction as you when I first saw the VT50. I have both a 500m (calibrated) and a 65VT50 (calibrated) and have done comparisons side-by-side. When they are not side-by-side, the only time I can detect a true difference in black level is during letterbox movies (the black bars during dark scenes don't blend into the bezel as well on the vt50 as they do on the 500m), but it is a slight difference. If I am trying, I can tell the difference during some dark scenes, but it is rare that I ever notice if I am not trying.
For me to upgrade my VT50 to the ZT60, the ZT will have to beat out the 500m in black level and the difference would have to be noticeable. But we will see, there are other things the VT50 needs to do better that could make me consider upgrading. For example, the VT50 doesn't do that great of a job handling some poor sources and it would be nice if 96hz worked without flicker.
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