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View Poll Results: If Samsung put the e6500/7000/8000 on sale next week would it motivate you to buy?
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post #1 of 12 Old 08-29-2012, 05:05 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm thinking one reason for low sales of the Samsung (and to a degree Panasonic) plasma's is the new policy of not allowing any sale prices. You can find some deals on Panny's, which IMHO is helping their sales.

I for one am ready to buy, but I hate buying anything unless I think I am getting a deal. I am actually leaning towards an e6500/7000, but if I don't see any sale prices soon I will probably buy a gt50.

Are there more cheapskates (lol) out there like me who won't buy without some kind of discount?
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post #2 of 12 Old 08-29-2012, 05:16 PM
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I'm with you ... my motto ... "never pay retail" !

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Kinda surprised not more pro/con comments on this one.
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The Consumer demands a discount on newly released merchandise or damned if he'll be buying! Story at 6!

Good grief. OP--how on earth do you know what the sales figures are? Or are you just mangling the language when you saw "low sales" and mean a low number of advertised "sales" (i.e. discounted sales) by sellers?

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I'd love to see some Labor Day sales.

I'm looking for an ST50 in 60 or 65 inches most likely for my living room so that I can game on it as lag free as big screens get, a 40-46 incher for the bedroom, and most likely a projector for my HT.

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Define "low sales."

For example: Let's assume Panasonic plasma sales are running below YTD 2011. At face value that sounds bad: 'Panasonic plasma sales are running 10% below 2011." (or whatever the % may be)

However, now stop to consider that Panasonic announced a REDUCED production schedule for 2012, as compared to 2011, in order to avoid end-of-year fire sales, AND in the hopes of propping up Retail Prices throughout as much of the 2012 sales cycle as possible.

IF the reduced production level is 10%, then a 10% reduction in sales might be expected. If the reduced production level was more on the level of 20 - 25%, then a 10% sales reduction means they are actually doing rather well.

There are other possible comments on sales / relative sales that might be "true" on their face, but fail to take into account the entire facts. The above % amounts are merely speculation - but Pan DID announce a reduced production schedule for 2012. If this has allowed them to better maintain pricing levels, they might be quite happy with "low sales."
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From everything I have read (yes, on the internet so how much do you believe?) Panasonic is kicking Samsungs butt in number of units sold. There have also been articles written about the low amount of TV's being sold altogether.

And yes, I think on big ticket items people do expect to pay less than the official retail price.
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I think low sales may be because of market penetration. How many households still have CRTs as the only TV in the house? Probably only those smart enough to get converter boxes when the government was subsidizing purchases. The only others would be those with satellite or cable. If you have a 60" TV you'll not likely want to pay $75 a month for HD content from cable. (My friend lost his house but he kept on paying the $200 for satellite programming and the $250 for the family cell phone plan, so there are people who don't have enough money sense.)

Last May the Pani 55ST50 was selling for $1699 at my local Fry's. They're down at least $300 now for the same set. I bought the LG 60PA6500 because it came in at $1299, was at $1099 on the Internet, and was on sale for $899 for Father's Day. Basically I went with a $899 set instead of $1699. So, maybe LG has been selling more units? (Unlikely.)

I'm sure the astute connoisseurs are waiting for 4k sets to start trickling in next December.
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But basically you bought the set due to the sale price.

All I'm saying is I think (and I am one of them) people get tired of looking at the same price all the time, throwing in an occasional sale price keeps peoples interest up.
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im dying to purchase a sammy 65e8000 but want it for less than the 2,999 price i dee it for at big blue and other web sites
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The LG's at cosco are a great buy IF you don't get rising blacks later on.
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The Panasonic 50UT54 at Costco has better blacks and video processing than the LG models, and is not as much of a mirror. And at $599, that is the better choice. And they also carry the Samsung 51E535 at a very good price which I would choose over the LG.
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