Originally Posted by Ken Ross
Not necessarily. If a display shows a small amount of IR currently
, then the fact that its current state of IR is very minor, is no guarantee that subjecting the display to more 'abuse' in terms of longer periods of logos etc, might not result in worse IR.
Yes, and you can also get hit by a bus tomorrow, too. So by all means, you should give serious consideration to staying inside. But be aware, if you do that, you might get crushed when the tree outside falls and comes through your ceiling.
BTW, D-Nice agrees with me and finds IR to be very prevalent in plasmas and Panasonic is no exception. I've gotten several PMs in the last several days from Panny VT50 owners that freely admit to IR issues.
Well, I'm thrilled to hear this. D-Nice and I have nothing to talk about, I'm glad you two are close. I freely admit that I have absolutely no image retention issues on my VT50. I have now spent more of my life searching for this non-problem
on my TV than could possibly be justified rationally. I simply cannot make it a problem. There is absolutely no way my unit is uncommon.
I'm really glad you haven't experienced it and I hope that continues.
The idea that it wouldn't continue is patently absurd. Akin to the idea that you all should stay inside because of that bus thing I mentioned above.
But your experience is no guarantee it won't happen to others.
No, it's not a guarantee for others. But it means that others are quite likely to share my experience. And if we had real data instead of stray complaints, this would be apparent. AVS reports are "squeaky wheel" data, which is inherently an inaccurate sample. While I wouldn't suggest ignoring it, I would strongly suggest not taking it very seriously either.
As I've said and D-Nice repeated, you need to use sound judgement with what you watch, how long you watch 'offending' material and make sure to use things like the orbiter to lessen the odds of IR...IOW, use sound judgement.
I do not use any "sound judgement."
I turn on my TV and watch it.
I do not use the orbiter.
I watch whatever I want.
I urge others to do the same -- so long as they are not using "torch mode".
(I also urge anyone who is going to game extensively, run a PC extensively or watch mostly one channel to buy an LCD).
Originally Posted by Ken Ross
I think there is a bias among reviewers & calibrators toward plasma.
Preferring something superior isn't "bias."
Preferring white people to black people is bias.
Preferring Los Angeles to New York is a form of bias.
But when judging something that has a finite output type, one can use objective criteria to make a preference. And that preference is not bias.
Reviewers and calibrators prefer accurate, contrasty pictures. Once an LCD could provide that, it was considered in league with the best TVs. Until then, they dismissed LCD. This doesn't resemble bias. Bias would be preferring Pansonic to Sony because "Sony is a bunch of idiots".