Originally Posted by shenaniganz08
OK calm down drama queen
Over and over you keep repeating the same thing
The response time for these TVs are easy to find and it's been repeated NUMEROUS times that the lag times on the ST60 is not that bad unless you're some hardcore neckbeard gamer.
You had the choice to get the S60/S64/VT60/ZT60 if you wanted better response times, so stop complain already because the only person you have to blame is yourself!
Kind of a harsh statement.. on one hand it's kind of annoying that it's discussed so much but on the other it's a real problem that prevents a lot of people from getting the TV or makes a lot of people hesitant.
70ms with game mode is nothing to scoff about, it's tough to really understand how it feels till you really try it though.
My Vizio without game mode is game mode 135-145ms.. with game mode it's about 35-45ms (E3D320VX, did the shutter test thing).
Without game mode everything is floaty, hard to really get a good grip on, it feels "heavy". It's not really impossible to play but man if it's not close. I actually gamed for like 3 years on a Samsung DLP, which I'm not sure what the input lag on it but it had to be around at least 150-250.. I'll be honest, I actually sort of got used to it and forgot about it.. but damn if the few times I used another TV didn't feel like a weight was taken off my controller.
The thing is though, it's frustrating as hell... the ST60 50" version can be had right now with sales/coupons for about $250 more than the 50" S60.. the AR filter, 3D, and increased picture quality is well worth that.. at the same time I can't justify another $650-$700 for the 55" VT60 just so I can get the more manageable input lag.
It just sucks that Panasonic released such a great TV with kind of a major flaw for a lot of people..
Oh well, it is what it is I guess!