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Thanks for all the help guys, I hope I'm not too late in getting rid of the IR. Unfortunately, I have to block the channel and only let the non-hd version to be watched. Let's see how it goes with that. I turned on the pixel orbiter and set the contrast at 50. Of course, I'll put the TV at its full settings when watching movies.
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Hi all, does anybody know how to downgrade firmware back to v. 2.733? Is it possible to download it somewhere or does anybody have it? I have an IPTV settop box and after upgrade, there are lots of issues with sound and image quality.
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Hey all....
Have a55 inch st60. Just over a year old.

I am developing a buzzing on whiter screens. I am about 12 feet away and can clearly hear it on lower volume scenes. I haven't noticed this before and I am assuming this buzzing shouldn't be this loud. Any idea what can be done? There is no way this is normal.

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Hey all....
Have a55 inch st60. Just over a year old.

I am developing a buzzing on whiter screens. I am about 12 feet away and can clearly hear it on lower volume scenes. I haven't noticed this before and I am assuming this buzzing shouldn't be this loud. Any idea what can be done? There is no way this is normal.

Thanks

same problem with my set, except mine is brand new. the buzz is also occurring on the whiter screens for me as well. mine is coming from the back of the tv, top left corner when looking at the tv from the back. do you guys know what part is located there? i have a warranty on my tv and was told to call the 1-800 # and that panasonic knows about this problem, they told me that it might be fixable over the phone, but i doubt that lol. they will probably just tell me to try different picture modes or something.

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same problem with my set, except mine is brand new. the buzz is also occurring on the whiter screens for me as well. mine is coming from the back of the tv, top left corner when looking at the tv from the back. do you guys know what part is located there? i have a warranty on my tv and was told to call the 1-800 # and that panasonic knows about this problem, they told me that it might be fixable over the phone, but i doubt that lol. they will probably just tell me to try different picture modes or something.
If you've got the buzz coming from one specific board it's probably repairable. Just get Panasonic to send a tech to look at the TV.
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Hey Chunon, mind if I give your settings a try? Having difficulty dialing things in with Att Uverse. Thanks!
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Hi all, does anybody know what gama and panel luminance is on the normal mode
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Hi all, does anybody know what gama and panel luminance is on the normal mode
Normal Mode? I don't think my ST60 has Normal Mode.

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Panasonic 42st60E europa model
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Panasonic 42st60E europa model
Ah. The Euro versions have completely different settings menus than the NA models here (our don't have Normal mode)

Try the UK based AVForums - they also cover the various Euro models:

https://www.avforums.com/forums/plasma-tvs.82/

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Hi all, does anybody know what gama and panel luminance is on the normal mode

I think the Normal mode runs in Medium Panel Brightness.


Gamma is a quite strange S Curve. Crushing the blacks and emphasing parts to have more colourful Picture. Normal is quite a Dynamic Mode, has nothing today with Normal.


I would not use this mode.


Normal Mode (EU) is the same as the (US) Standard Mode.


as: Dynamic (EU) is the same as the (US) Vivid Mode.
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I think the Normal mode runs in Medium Panel Brightness.


Gamma is a quite strange S Curve. Crushing the blacks and emphasing parts to have more colourful Picture. Normal is quite a Dynamic Mode, has nothing today with Normal.


I would not use this mode.


Normal Mode (EU) is the same as the (US) Standard Mode.


as: Dynamic (EU) is the same as the (US) Vivid Mode.
Okay but on Normal Mode (EU) the plasma panel is very litlle warm (cold) then on True Cinema or Cinema
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I ask for beter longeviity of electronic parts in Panasonic plasma
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Well I would not recommend normal mode for home viewing, it was designed around the energy star targets and not picture quality



You can see there the strangeness of normal mode, and that plasma was released before the new energy guidelines
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As Bill Clinton once said..."I feel your pain". I guess I should consider myself one of the lucky ones. I don't hear buzzing on my ST60ST. My wife doesn't hear it either, even after I asked her to go put her head 2-inches from the screen. Perhaps not as keen as my dog, but I consider both of our hearing as in the "normal" range. Furthermore, we both don't see rainbows, northern lights, or any other abnormal celestial bodies floating around the ST60. After over 12-months of ownership and 4200 hours, just pristine plasma PQ. Again, just lucky I suppose, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.
I've had my set for two years and the only thing buzzing is me ! Jus sayin...
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I bought my 50ST60A in Dec 2013, to replace a Pioneer 42MXE10 - main reason to "upgrade" was grabbing the last of these great (and damn cheap!) plasma's before they vanished.

Totally amazing set for the money, definitely an equal for my old Pioneer, but 1080p and a lot thinner & lighter.

Oct 2014 - set won't turn on and I'm hit with the great "7 red flashes" - repair tech came to have a look, there's a faulty board that needs to be replaced. TV is now working intermittently, works most of the time but sometimes won't turn on at all.

Turns out Panasonic can't supply the replacement board, so I've finally got approval for a return & the retailer has agreed to a full replacement (A$1250).

Zero stock of ST & VT's here in Australia, no F8500's either - which means I'm stuck with a sh*t LCD, or spend 2.3x as much for the LG 55" curved OLED - or wait ~3 months and spend 3x on the new 2015 LG 55" Flat OLED.

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.....Oct 2014 - set won't turn on and I'm hit with the great "7 red flashes" - repair tech came to have a look, there's a faulty board that needs to be replaced. TV is now working intermittently, works most of the time but sometimes won't turn on at all. Turns out Panasonic can't supply the replacement board...
There are services that can repair your faulty circuit boards, or maybe find a used or refurbished board and get that TV working again?


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so I've finally got approval for a return & the retailer has agreed to a full replacement (A$1250). Zero stock of ST & VT's here in Australia, no F8500's either - which means I'm stuck with a sh*t LCD, or spend 2.3x as much for the LG 55" curved OLED - or wait ~3 months and spend 3x on the new 2015 LG 55" Flat OLED.
I recently replaced my 55ST60 with a Sony 55W800B LCD TV in my man room and it actually looks almost as good as my ST60, much closer than i ever expected it to be. As LCDs go, this one has exceeded my expectations, and it's been getting good reviews and owners seem to be very happy with this model. It may be a suitable replacement for you for the time being.

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Cool hope they work out for you.
I'm interested in these settings as well. Can you send me a PM?
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I'm interested in these settings as well. Can you send me a PM?

Sent let me know how they look, I have another set with more pop if you are interested

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Looking to buy this mount for 50" ST60

Looking to buy this wall mount for my 50" ST60, any thought, comments or etc. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2
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Looking to buy this wall mount for my 50" ST60, any thought, comments or etc. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

That should work

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Looking to buy this wall mount for my 50" ST60, any thought, comments or etc. http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_i...seq=1&format=2

We've used several of their mounts over the years. We hung our 60" ST where a 6 y.o. 50" was hung. No problem using old mount. Still as good as new. Full swivel.
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Sent let me know how they look, I have another set with more pop if you are interested
Hey Chunon, please PM me the new "more pop" settings. I've been using your other settings, and they look good too, but I'd like to give the other settings a try. One thing I wanted to ask you is the +85 Contrast setting. Is there any danger for the panel to have a contrast setting this high? Thanks.
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After 2 or so years, I still love my 60ST60, but the image retention is unmistakable and has just been getting worse. If I'm watching TV and bring up the Guide to see what else is on, when I change the channel the outline of the Guide can be seen for up to 5 minutes. And HGTV seems permanently burned into the lower right corner. Been running screen swipe overnight for the last couple weeks, doesn't help so I'll probably stop doing that.

I have the Best Buy Black Tie warranty which covered image retention when I got it, so I'm thinking about cashing in on that. I assume they'll give me a monetary credit since there are no more ST60's... but maybe I should wait a little longer until there is a suitable replacement. I need black blacks and a uniform backlight. Nothing bothers me more than edgebleed and flashlighting.

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Hey Chunon, please PM me the new "more pop" settings. I've been using your other settings, and they look good too, but I'd like to give the other settings a try. One thing I wanted to ask you is the +85 Contrast setting. Is there any danger for the panel to have a contrast setting this high? Thanks.

Might be a little more susceptible to IR but otherwise shouldn't cause any issues.
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One thing I wanted to ask you is the +85 Contrast setting. Is there any danger for the panel to have a contrast setting this high? Thanks.
From experience I can tell you that setting the contrast that high and displaying any kind of static graphics or text for a fair amount of time will give you persistent IR that will take months / hundreds of hours to go away.

For cable TV, I set the contrast below 40 and the image is zoomed in most of the time to keep station logos off screen. Do I really need the best picture to watch news tickers and talk shows? Exactly!

For the external and internal media players which are my sources for watching movies which usually fill the screen, contrast is set to 83, overscan is off, etc. No worries there.
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From experience I can tell you that setting the contrast that high and displaying any kind of static graphics or text for a fair amount of time will give you persistent IR that will take months / hundreds of hours to go away.

For cable TV, I set the contrast below 40 and the image is zoomed in most of the time to keep station logos off screen. Do I really need the best picture to watch news tickers and talk shows? Exactly!

For the external and internal media players which are my sources for watching movies which usually fill the screen, contrast is set to 83, overscan is off, etc. No worries there.
Thanks kman, I'll give your method a try. Sounds logical and good viewing practices for plasma screens.
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From experience I can tell you that setting the contrast that high and displaying any kind of static graphics or text for a fair amount of time will give you persistent IR that will take months / hundreds of hours to go away.

For cable TV, I set the contrast below 40 and the image is zoomed in most of the time to keep station logos off screen. Do I really need the best picture to watch news tickers and talk shows? Exactly!

For the external and internal media players which are my sources for watching movies which usually fill the screen, contrast is set to 83, overscan is off, etc. No worries there.
Not only IR issues, having the contrast in the 80 range heats up the screen and in turn hastens the life expectancy of your "no longer available" plasma.

I lived a year with "internet settings" in the 79/81 range and the picture did pop. But the screen did throw off a lot of heat (nice in a Vermont winter) and I did have minor IR issues. But when I finally had my ST60 professionally calibrated, the contrast was turned down to 50, the plasma isn't running nearly as hot as before which has me thinking a longer life expectancy should be realized. IR is a thing of the past so ZOOM is unnecessary for persistent logos and while the picture no longer "pops", it is more natural and the colors are spot-on.

These are my experiences, YMMV!
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From experience I can tell you that setting the contrast that high and displaying any kind of static graphics or text for a fair amount of time will give you persistent IR that will take months / hundreds of hours to go away.

For cable TV, I set the contrast below 40 and the image is zoomed in most of the time to keep station logos off screen. Do I really need the best picture to watch news tickers and talk shows? Exactly!

For the external and internal media players which are my sources for watching movies which usually fill the screen, contrast is set to 83, overscan is off, etc. No worries there.
I run my contrast at 83 as well, but do not ever zoom in while watching cable TV. I noticed a hint of IR at one time, but it went away pretty quickly. I have gotten in to the habit of running a screen wipe for about 10 minutes or so before I sit down to watch TV, and run it periodically while watching for extended periods of time. I watch a lot of TV with static logos and tickers, game quite a bit with HUDs, and since I started doing this, I do not notice any IR whatsoever. My panel also does not seem to get very hot after watching or gaming for extended periods of time.

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