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The bright red power light can get annoying The ZT60 power light dims after about a minute when turned on the ST60s stays bright this can easily be fixed with scotch tape and black permanent marker

check picture not nearly as bright but can still be seen like the ZT light

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There's a product called LightDims for this that is well worth its low price.
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The bright red power light can get annoying The ZT60 power light dims after about a minute when turned on the ST60s stays bright this can easily be fixed with scotch tape and black permanent marker
Yes, Light Dims work great on lot of my devices, even in my cars....

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So I recently came accross second hand TC-P55ST60. Is it advisable to buy 2-3 year old plasma?


This tv retailed for around $1,500, what would be a decent price for a used set?
Anything specific I should look for when I go to check it out, other than dead pixels?
is there a way to check how many hours its been watched through settings?
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So I recently came accross second hand TC-P55ST60. Is it advisable to buy 2-3 year old plasma?


This tv retailed for around $1,500, what would be a decent price for a used set?
Anything specific I should look for when I go to check it out, other than dead pixels?
is there a way to check how many hours its been watched through settings?
I'd check for uniformity. I've had three ST60 50's in my possession and all had some amount of pink discoloration on gray backgrounds. If you don't have a test pattern go to the Eco menu. The mostly grey background will show it. It's worse on gray but I would also see it in shots of the sky etc in normal content.
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So I recently came accross second hand TC-P55ST60. Is it advisable to buy 2-3 year old plasma?
As long as the screen and filter and bezel etc are in acceptable condition, and the panel doesn't show any burn-in or issues it should otherwise be fine.


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This tv retailed for around $1,500, what would be a decent price for a used set?
It actually retailed for $1,295. That was the regular price Panasonic's online store, on Amazon, and at Best Buy from late summer to end of production in December. I kept waiting for a sale to occur but after a few months i ended up buying mine for full price ($1,295) before they disappeared.


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Anything specific I should look for when I go to check it out, other than dead pixels?
I'd check the panel for hairline cracks (shine a flashlight over every single inch), and of course check to see if it has any burn-in (using the colored break-in slides on a USB stick).


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Quick way to Check the Hours Used Via the regular User Menu (same for all 2013 models):Go to Menu > Help > Version > and scroll down to Status4. On that line you'll see a letter A or B or C followed by a 4-digit number which is the number of hours. A0039-0000 for instance would be 39 hours. C1926-00000 would be 1,926 hours.
As long as the TV is in good condition, i wouldn't obsess about high hours. The panel is rated for 100,000 hours before brightness is reduced which is like 30 years of watching it all day long.

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I'd check for uniformity. I've had three ST60 50's in my possession and all had some amount of pink discoloration on gray backgrounds. If you don't have a test pattern go to the Eco menu. The mostly grey background will show it. It's worse on gray but I would also see it in shots of the sky etc in normal content.
Posterization, all plasmas have it. I doubt you can find a flat screen TV that doesn't have it somewhere in the grayscale.
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I'd check for uniformity. I've had three ST60 50's in my possession and all had some amount of pink discoloration on gray backgrounds. If you don't have a test pattern go to the Eco menu. The mostly grey background will show it. It's worse on gray but I would also see it in shots of the sky etc in normal content.

This sounds like greyscale tracking error to me and not posterization.


Edit: Or it could be non-uniformity.

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So I recently came accross second hand TC-P55ST60. Is it advisable to buy 2-3 year old plasma?


This tv retailed for around $1,500, what would be a decent price for a used set?
Anything specific I should look for when I go to check it out, other than dead pixels?
is there a way to check how many hours its been watched through settings?

Yes, as Randy said check for burn-in/image retention, and also get the hours that have been put on the set. Depending on the hours, you might be able to negotiate a lower price. But there is no need to fear high hours if the set is in good shape and has no burn in.


I'd say a fair price for one with less than 3000 hours in excellent condition with no image retention is around $1000, but I don't think I'd pay more than $1000 unless it was pristine with super low hours.
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I'd check for uniformity. I've had three ST60 50's in my possession and all had some amount of pink discoloration on gray backgrounds. If you don't have a test pattern go to the Eco menu. The mostly grey background will show it. It's worse on gray but I would also see it in shots of the sky etc in normal content.
I also own 2x 50 inch ST60 model. I do notice that too... the pink discoloration is mostly on the center of the screen and is only noticeable in full white and gray backgrounds (in Cinema mode, of course). When I watch a bluray Hollywood movie the pink discoloration is barely noticeable. Another thing I noticed is that when I watched Schindler's List (a black & white movie) a week ago I noticed a hint of green & pink tint here and there, depending on the graduations of the gray . Is there a way to cure these discoloration by getting it professional calibrated?

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Another thing I noticed is that when I watched Schindler's List (a black & white movie) a week ago I noticed a hit of green & pink tint here and there, depending on the graduations of the gray . Is there a way to cure these discoloration by getting it professional calibrated?

Yes, or you can get a calibration disk with greyscale patterns and try to improve it by eye, but it's super tough to do that.


This set can be super fine tuned, so it's one definitely worth getting professionally calibrated. I recommend Chad B, but there are many good ones who post and participate here.
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I also own 2x 50 inch ST60 model. I do notice that too... the pink discoloration is mostly on the center of the screen and is only noticeable in full white and gray backgrounds (in Cinema mode, of course). When I watch a bluray Hollywood movie the pink discoloration is barely noticeable. Another thing I noticed is that when I watched Schindler's List (a black & white movie) a week ago I noticed a hint of green & pink tint here and there, depending on the graduations of the gray . Is there a way to cure these discoloration by getting it professional calibrated?
The higher the contrast is the less you'll see it. Higher quality sources show less of it than lower quality sources.
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