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Yeah, for $600 I can deal with the issue since it is minor and only shows up when there light scenes (i.e. a whitish/grey sky, snow scenes, etc.)...just glad I got him down from his original asking price of $750 because at that price I would probably be a bit upset.

Even at $750 it would have been a very good deal. If all you have is some IR, $600 is still a bargain (if not a steal) for the 65" size of this TV. I don't think anyone here would disagree. It's an awesome TV.

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I will just have to keep trying screen wiping periodically and the Disney pixel flipper when I get the disc from my buddy.

Yes, the Disney Wow pixel flipper is far better than the screen wipe, but you will likely need to run it for several days straight to get rid of the IR. Maybe even a week straight or more.


How many hours are on the set?
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If it's IR it will eventually go away just by watching the TV. I did have some stubborn IR once after a marathon game grinding session, the same thing over and over basically, that took a month or two of normal TV viewing to go away. I'm a little more careful with games now and haven't had a problem since.
I am hoping that is all it is. I will say that I watched Star Wars TFA last night and during the sandy scenes you could see it pretty noticeably in the sky and sand early on but towards the end of the movie it did not seem as visible. When the movie was over I immediately ran the screen wipe for a couple hours before I went to bed and when I turned the TV off the box on the left side was barely visible.

When I woke up I went in and turned the TV on and started the screen wipe to see how it looked since the couple days prior it seemed to come back over night and even in the morning it was noticeably less visible. I am just hoping it is really stubborn IR that over time will eventually go away. I should have the Disney WOW disc in a day or two so I run that over the weekend and in my free time to see if I can get rid of it for good.

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Even at $750 it would have been a very good deal. If all you have is some IR, $600 is still a bargain (if not a steal) for the 65" size of this TV. I don't think anyone here would disagree. It's an awesome TV.
Oh no doubt. What I meant was is if this turns out to be burn in and not IR then I am glad I only paid $600. Still a good deal no doubt, just wish the screen was squeaky clean is all.

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Yes, the Disney Wow pixel flipper is far better than the screen wipe, but you will likely need to run it for several days straight to get rid of the IR. Maybe even a week straight or more.

How many hours are on the set?
I hope the WOW disc does the trick because other than the screen issue in that area the set is beautiful...the black level performance compared to my 50G25 (which has the floating blacks issue from that year) is phenomenal and going from a 50" to a 65" makes watching movies so much better.

Status 4 shows C4665-00000 so I am guessing that is 4665 hours. Do you know what the other ones means. Status3 is 0000-4000 and status5 is 00000-10000

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Oh no doubt. What I meant was is if this turns out to be burn in and not IR then I am glad I only paid $600. Still a good deal no doubt, just wish the screen was squeaky clean is all.

Even if it turns out to be burn it, it's still a great deal at $750.

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I hope the WOW disc does the trick because other than the screen issue in that area the set is beautiful...the black level performance compared to my 50G25 (which has the floating blacks issue from that year) is phenomenal and going from a 50" to a 65" makes watching movies so much better.

The WOW disc is definitely your best bet, though you'll likely need to run it for days straight and maybe even a week or more.

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Status 4 shows C4665-00000 so I am guessing that is 4665 hours. Do you know what the other ones means. Status3 is 0000-4000 and status5 is 00000-10000

I don't, but you're correct that Status 4 shows the hours. 4665 is fairly low hours too.
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Got mine couple years ago as a floor model. It sat on the showroom floor with full brightness and contrast, running the demo mode over and over. Talk about IR! It was terrible.

Fortunately, the salesperson was cooperative and let me put it in screen wipe mode overnight. When I returned the next day, the IR seemed noticeably lighter. Based on that progress I went ahead and bought the unit at a discount. I obtained the WOW disk and ran pixel fix overnight the first few nights (and days). Finally, the image was only barely discernable in skies and solid scenes. That was two years ago. Now, the picture is awesome! No IR except the occasional ghosting others have mentioned. Definitely no burn-in.

Enjoy!

I'm not looking forward to trying to replace this set. I'm afraid everything else will be a step backward. OLED, anyone?

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Got mine couple years ago as a floor model. It sat on the showroom floor with full brightness and contrast, running the demo mode over and over. Talk about IR! It was terrible.

Fortunately, the salesperson was cooperative and let me put it in screen wipe mode overnight. When I returned the next day, the IR seemed noticeably lighter. Based on that progress I went ahead and bought the unit at a discount. I obtained the WOW disk and ran pixel fix overnight the first few nights (and days). Finally, the image was only barely discernable in skies and solid scenes. That was two years ago. Now, the picture is awesome! No IR except the occasional ghosting others have mentioned. Definitely no burn-in.

Enjoy!

I'm not looking forward to trying to replace this set. I'm afraid everything else will be a step backward. OLED, anyone?
Well, this gives me hope that I can eventually get the panel back to good shape. Hopefully I get the Disney disc tomorrow so I can run it over the weekend while I am away.

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Good plan. Also keep in mind that the longer the panel was abused the longer it will take to even it out, but I think this will quickly become harder to notice.

Sometimes, I see dead pixels...
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Good plan. Also keep in mind that the longer the panel was abused the longer it will take to even it out, but I think this will quickly become harder to notice.
Yup, that is what I was thinking. I guess the good thing is that since the panel has relatively low hours (4665 or by rough math about 3 hours of usage per day over the last 3-1/2 years) that it will not be as bad as I had originally thought.

I will just be glad if I can get this thing back to mint condition because I am loving it for movies.

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These sets are awesome. I love my 60ST60 and will mourn its passing if that ever happens.
Mine has the slightest of vertical band artifacts on the right side but not visible in regular use; only can see it if I look for it. So I don't! 😀

Sometimes, I see dead pixels...
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Well, this gives me hope that I can eventually get the panel back to good shape. Hopefully I get the Disney disc tomorrow so I can run it over the weekend while I am away.


Just make sure you have your blu-ray player's screen saver turned off, otherwise it will come on and effectively turn off the pixel flipper.
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Just make sure you have your blu-ray player's screen saver turned off, otherwise it will come on and effectively turn off the pixel flipper.
Thank you for the heads up, appreciate it. I will have to dig into the Oppo 83 menu and look for it.

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